Wikipedia talk:Don't call the kettle black

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LOL, as soon as I read this, I said, this reminds me of a recent discussion we had. Anyway, this article is a good point, but it needs some major expansion. I may take it up some day. Patstuart^talk|edits 14:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC) (oh, and PS, that kettle isn't black; but there is one here if you have time, which I don't). Patstuart^talk|edits 14:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

• It is, however, as black as the pot :P (Radiant) 14:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • LOL, you're right. I didn't notice. Anyway, I made some changes, but looking back on them, I'm not sure if they don't ruin the whole thing. Please feel free to prune/change as you wish. -Patstuart^talk|edits 20:42, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Actually, that kettle has a chrome/silver finish too. I think what's needed here is some cast iron. –  Anþony  talk  13:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Picures in article

But the pot clearly is much blacker than the kettle.... Johnbod 23:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The kettle is clearly a shiny silver. Anyone got a black kettle? Grandmasterka 23:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I found a decent photo of a cast iron kettle on Flickr and replaced the obviously non-black kettle. The pot though is still clearly stainless steel. There are plenty of images of black pots, but no good free ones that I could find. – Þ  09:37, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

LOL. >Radiant< 16:39, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Come on, somebody's got to own a black pot and a camera. Don't make me go out and buy one just out of anal-retentiveness.

I suppose I could take a picture of a black pot I already own, but it's barely more than a saucepan, and thus not appropriate to pot-related visual metaphors. ShaleZero 08:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I've got a black pot; I'll try to take a pic of it in the next day or two. --CrazyLegsKC 02:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I took a pic of my spaghetti pot today and added it. It's not the best, since the only camera I have is my cell phone, but it actually came out better than I expected. --CrazyLegsKC 17:06, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

The joke about the weed is pretty lame in its current form. It should be shortened to the first sentence and that's it. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 18:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

But...

The fact that the pot happens to be black does not mean that the kettle is any less black. -Amarkov moo! 01:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Is that really a kettle?

I would call that a teapot personally, but black all the same :-) DJLayton4 (talk) 02:33, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Interesting that the photo of the kettle on this page is actually a much larger pot. Refer to the Kettle page, perhaps find a cast iron kettle instead of a large pot? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frereleo (talk • contribs) 19:09, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

If you want to use a Flickr image, try this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frereleo (talk • contribs) 19:13, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Misleading title (it is not a general prohibition)

re: Don't call the kettle black

For the slothenly casual reader so many (not me, of course) are, the guideline title implies a general prohibition against calling the kettle black ...

HOWEVER: If you are not a black pot, you are in no way enjoined from asserting the blackness of the kettle.

OF COURSE: While clever folks (like me) can certainly interpret the implication of the title of this page, others (obviously not you, fellow editor of impeccable wisdom) may need this clarification. :) Proofreader77 (talk) 19:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Agree. We should also expand on the idea that self-advocacy on Wikipedia is against the principles of Wikipedia itself. This essay reads like someone who is mad that hypocrisy exists, not someone who wants to improve Wikipedia. The idea of this article is that if you are guilty of misconduct, you shouldn't report someone else, or else you might get banned or something. But we can see that the net result of applying this essay is that two editors guilty of misconduct are not brought into the scrutinizing eye of the community. We want the pot to call the kettle black, because the net result will be that misconduct on both sides is dealt with. This essay is essentially advocating in favor of co-conspiracy. I won't report you, and you won't report me, so we can both continue to be disruptive. MarshallKe (talk) 14:01, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Offensive

The opening sentence is an unnecessary late addition to the page that is simplistic and offensive by repeatedly using blackness in a negative tone and should be removed, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 23:31, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

The entire essay is also offensive to pots and kettles, and should be deleted. BilCat (talk) 22:55, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

It's obviously offensive to me Atlantic306 (talk) 01:30, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Maybe you should come back when you've grown up. BilCat (talk) 02:00, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

So your response to someone's offence is to be even more offensive - great attitude Atlantic306 (talk) 02:10, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Stop being offended by things that aren't intended to be offensive. You'll enjoy life more. BilCat (talk) 02:13, 29 December 2020 (UTC)