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Family Guy episodes by season

Nine subcategories of Category:Family Guy episodes have been nominated for renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you, -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 18:24, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Please Help Build Consensus on This Question

There's a disagreement between two Wikipedia editors at Talk:Brian & Stewie#Discussion Re: Narration Framework of Episode. The input of WikiProject Family Guy editors would be appreciated in order to build a community consensus on the question one way or the other. — WCityMike 06:39, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Rename Quagmire

I'm going to propose we rename Glenn Quagmire to Quagmire (Family Guy). Per WP:COMMONNAME. 99% of the time he is referred to as just Quagmire, and Fox promos (example) even just refer to him as Quagmire. CTJF83 chat 08:49, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

I do not know Ctj his name is Gleen, BUUT a mayor issue is that any viwer that wants to find would put quagmire so yeay i suported it, --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 13:25, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

I disagree with this proposal. That's like saying Cleveland Brown should be renamed Cleveland (Family Guy) and Joe Swanson be renamed Joe (Family Guy). While he is hardly ever referred to by his full name, it has been used dozens of times throughout the series. Gage (talk) 19:50, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

But Quagmire is his common name, just like my move proposal to Puck (Glee). Also your 2 examples use first names, not last names, as is Quagmire...Obviously Brown (Family Guy) and Swanson (Family Guy) wouldn't work. CTJF83 chat 19:51, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

I used Joe and Cleveland because they are referred by that as often as Quagmire is referred to as Quagmire. I do not see the necessity of this move. If anything, Quagmire (Family Guy) could simply redirect to Glenn Quagmire. Gage (talk) 19:58, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Do you see my point? Most people are referred to by just their first name. Quagmire is referred to by his last name 99% of the time. But I'll wait for consensus either way. CTJF83 chat 20:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Like Pedro says, most people would search for him by typing Quagmire, not Gleen Quagmire. CTJF83 chat 20:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

I disagree, on the same reasoning as Gage above.

Glenn Quagmire is his WP:Common name, the way Peter Löwenbräu M. Griffin (or whatever the combined single episode gag names aggregate to) has the WP:Common name Peter Griffin even tho Peter is seldom called by his full name on the show. Wikipedia searches on Quagmire get the disambiguation page for the various things called Quagmire.

Quagmire (Family Guy) is simply not a common name, and for most users it's not an obvious search term, but it wouldn't hurt to create it as a redirect to Glenn Quagmire. I'll refrain for now, pending the outcome of this discussion. / edg ☺ ☭ 21:02, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

P.S. I don't know if this will convince anyone, but Picasso is a redirect to Pablo Picasso. Everyone knows Picasso's first name, but no one ever uses it. Even so, Pablo Picasso is the WP:Common name. / edg ☺ ☭ 21:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Ya, I didn't even know his first name. CTJF83 chat 21:15, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Wahoo this conversation has grown, well It may not be a good idea, BUT again most viewrs will serch Quagmire in an interview for the Cleveland shoe Seth MacFarlane talks why he chose Cleveland he said the folowing, Peter....., Joe......., QUAGMIRE........, And in various episodes the guys calll him Quagire his first name doise not come up very much in the show, so for the most part its for convinience of the viewer and i think this site is made to help folks lern a bit more about things and its hard to find when they do not know his first name though do not get me wrong Gage has a good point, but in my opinion whats better for the viewr s the best plus it ain´t changing much the artical will be what it is(sadly a very emty artical but still). --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 01:34, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

I think it'd be beneficial just to put this in the article:

“ Glenn Quagmire, better known as simply Quagmire, is a... ”

But changing the title is wrong in my opinion. Gage (talk) 00:17, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

I guess consensus is to not change. I created the redirect Quagmire (Family Guy), so with no objections, I'll archive this in a day or so. CTJF83 chat 19:22, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

By archive you don't mean add it to an archive for 2010, right? I think it'd be better to wait until the end of the year before archiving the page, as I see no harm in having this discussion staying here. Gage (talk) 10:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to sound so disagreeable. Gage (talk) 10:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Road to the Multiverse FAC

I recently put the article up for peer review, and haven't received a response yet, but if anyone wants to take a glance at the article, and fix anything in regards to spelling, grammar, etc. or expand on something, please do so before the peer review, as I plan on hopefully getting the article to FA status. I attempted to model the structure somewhat after North by North Quahog, which is also very well referenced, so if anyone can find additional references, that'd be great too. But just wanted to alert everyone of my intentions, and any help is appreciated, as long as it increases the quality of the article, as I know how long this process may end up being. Gage (talk) 10:47, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Awsome, that artical has great potential, plus i love this episode, and because i worked on it before(nominated it for GAN and failed) i guess i could help out(thanks for getting it to GA by the way.....and all the other season 5 ones that i screwed with). --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 14:30, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, we're closing in on having all of the season five episodes at GA status, only three more; Meet the Quagmires, Boys Do Cry and No Meals on Wheels. I'll try to get them up to GA status as well in the coming months, but feel free to help, Pedro, as I'd love to get the season to GT. Gage (talk) 05:12, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Well then i´ll begin soon.--Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 12:58, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

CR are neceasry

I know Cultural refrences, are in every episode of GA in the Fg proyect but are they neceary....while Plot, production and reception are needed i see cultural refernces as more as a plus, and i would totally put them if they were not such a pain to find refrences for them, so are Cr needed for every episode artical when there are these type of articals out there without them that have gotten to FA, hey this is just me wantin to see the opinions of other editors so plase comment. --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 14:48, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Just because it's a pain doesn't mean it shouldn't or couldn't be done. It is an essential part of this series, and is what Family Guy is particularly known for. Cultural references are a neccesity, in my opinion, and should always be a part of an article, especially if it is a GA or FA candidate. Laziness will not bring success. Gage (talk) 14:53, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Progress

Lets see i belive we have made a great progress, and i would like to but some goals that we should do before 2011

• Get Season 1 FL
• Get Season 1 GT
• Get Season 8 FL
• Get Season 8 GT

• but season 7 is easier Nergaal (talk) 19:30, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes you are right but an editor is already working hard at season 8, season 7 is a good posibility and i would work on it after season 1 is finished, ad Nergaal would you be intrested in helping geting most of are low articals up a notch. --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 18:20, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

• Get Road to The Multiverse to FA
• Get Road to...FG to GA
• Try to get atleast another FA
• Get at least 3 DYK
• Get articals from stub to a better rate

  Get the following character articles to a B:

• Meg Griffin
• Chris Griffin
• Ernie the giant chicken
• Lois Griffin
• Stewie Griffin
• Brian Griffin
• Joe Swanson
• Quagmire

  Recreate:

• Tom Tucker
• Herbert

This is just to make us improve are selfs if anybody wishes to add anything plase do. --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 14:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

HELP

I need someone to tell me who here has the book of the FG season 1-3 guide, if anybody has it plsease comunicate thank you. --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 16:33, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Or any other Family Guy book. CTJF83 chat 16:38, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes plase its for a GAN that is happening now so we need help. --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 16:41, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Pedro's Good Faith But Disruptive Editing

I was hoping we could resolve this between ourselves, but Pedro isn't allowing me the luxury of doing so. Instead, I feel as though he's exercising ownership of the article in question while resisting attempts to improve it outside his own.

I have now repeatedly attempted to clean-up "A Hero Sits Next Door", but every time Pedro has reverted my edits despite the fact that his own introduced poor grammar and what I considered trivia. In a recent attempt to compromise I restored my edits with an edit summary stating that I intended to re-add his additional material momentarily[1]...he undid my edits before I could add his material back in (after improving his grammar).

I was concerned by Pedro's editing style earlier, and tried to open a discussion with him on his Talk page[2]...he deleted my note without comment[3]. In a discussion on my own Talk page he directed me here. I was reluctant to raise my issues to a larger audience, but the above refusal to let me complete my edits convinced me that it was necessary.

While I appreciate that he is trying to improve the quality of the article's overall, adding unsourced information or information that involves a great deal of poor grammar, and then summarily rejecting criticism while resisting efforts to discuss the problems with his edits is ultimately having the opposite effect. Doniago (talk) 14:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I just did some copy editing to it myself. I'm now curious to see what happens. It seems like your edits were constructive with regards to grammar, but you did remove a bit of info about the show hiding Joe's wheelchair. No real opinion on that at this point. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 18:45, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

That part did strike me as trivial/non-notable, as does the section in the lead about the episode featuring cutaways (so does every other episode of the show). If consensus is that it should be included though, I won't stand in the way. Doniago (talk) 19:06, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know the full story at all. But, it's undergoing a GA review right now, I think. So, my preference in that situation is to leave it up to the reviewer. After it passes or fails, then is the time to challenge things (although the main editor may say "It passed GA, so too bad. Which can be a problem). The major caveat is when the reviewer doesn't understand the material. In this case, Bignole knows TV GAs like the back of his hand, and a FG episode isn't AIDS denialism. So, my preference would be that we all do whatever necessary to get the article passed as a GA, and then we can remove a bit of trivia if we want. My feeling is that a little too much or little too little trivia isn't that big a deal with episode pages (as long as it's cited). You might feel that the important part is getting each individual article correct, and I used to feel that way (about three years ago), but now the very existence of these articles is somewhat dependent on being able to achieve GA status, and that's what I feel is important now. Of course, I'm an inclusionist, and if you're a deletionist (and I don't think you are) or whatever, then what's important is completely different. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 03:38, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

My concern is that adding trivia or not-necessarily-needed statements with poor grammar and spelling, no matter how well-intentioned, actually reduces the odds of the article passing GA. It is possible that the GA reviewer requested that what I perceive to be trivia be added to the article, but if that's the case, it hasn't been made clear at this time. Doniago (talk) 12:59, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

You'd probably be surprised how much "trivia" a GA reviewer will let through. Also, trivia is uncited stuff, else it's just opinion on what is too trivial, which I think is the case here (I forget). If Bignole asks for some trivia to be removed, I'm sure it will be. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 14:48, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

God this conversation is long, anyway the artical passed, it was stated before my by person that bgnole in this case the reviewer requested for the so called trivia, so i see no probelm in adding it, and i would always prefer for editors to inadvertently remove or change things in articals that are on GAN since it is frustrating. --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 18:16, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Family Guy season 1 (and all others) TfD

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List of fictional locations in Family Guy Afd

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Ernie the Giant Chicken

I added some sources to Ernie the Giant Chicken after browsing the episode's articles in which he appears. Does anyone know any more sources? Harry Blue5 (talk) 22:31, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

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I've nominated Template:Family Guy Movies and Special Episodes for deletion. CTJF83 chat 18:38, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Media franchises is up for deletion

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"FOX-y Lady"

I nominated "FOX-y Lady" as a good article, and it passed the review. Railer-man (talk) 19:09, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

The Life of Larry and Larry & Steve at GAN

I have listed The Life of Larry and Larry & Steve for a Good article nominee. Please comment here whenever the article should pass or fail during GAN nomination. Thank for your time. Regards, JJ98 (Talk) 19:58, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of your portal

Pls see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Family Guy (2nd nomination)Moxy (talk) 05:44, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

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Merger of this project into WikiProject Television as a task force

It has been suggested that Family Guy work group of WikiProject Animation to be merged into WikiProject Television as a task force since the project might be inactive or semi-active. After reviewing this project that it appears that there have not been any active discussion on the talk page in some time and the only content updates appear to be simple maintenance so being supported by a larger project might be beneficial. If you have questions or comments, please let us know. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 10:41, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Bruce AfD

I started an AfD on Bruce (Family Guy) feel free to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bruce (Family Guy)‎ CTJF83 20:13, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I dream of Jesus GAN

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ALready fixed most issues. Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 17:05, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Road to...

The Road to... series is at FTRC, and will be delisted unless Roads to Vegas is brought to GA or FA status. Adabow (talk) 22:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I'll do my best to help promote it. Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 20:44, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Family Guy in pop culture

Family Guy has for a while now grown into more other popular media as references to the show and/or its characters so I've thought that perhaps a "Family Guy in popular culture" page can be in order. Such as for example; with the rising fame and success of the metal band Suicide Silence it can be noted that this band regularly features sounds clips from the series at their live performances before playing certain songs. Also noted; even back in the year 2004, a demo by Suicide Silence with many of the cast members from Family Guy were featured on its cover along with sound clips from the show featured on each one of the song recorded on it, and is thus is known as the "2004 Family Guy Demo". It's safe to assume that the band must be fans of the series, but the main point is that I'm starting to believe that a page can be made for these popular culture inclusions as several pages of critically acclaimed media or persons usually have one (if not multiple). -- GunMetal Angel 17:41, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Secondary project

Any thoughts on creating a subproject of FG for The Cleveland Show, much like what was done with WP:GLEE being a subproject of WP:TV. CTJF83 chat 19:40, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

I thought about it when TCS came out but the idea was never reliazed. Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 17:09, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

This is eerilly reminiscent of WikiProject American Dad!, which is now nonexistent. There is barely any participatin in this project besides a few select members, and the thought that a WikiProject devoted to the Cleveland Show would be any better is ridiculous, in my opinion. The same goes for a Subproject. Gage (talk) 13:18, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Aye, what are the odds it would be popular/active enough to survive? Not to be a party p00per, of course. DP76764 (Talk) 18:46, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Depends how much the 4 of us want to do? CTJF83 chat 20:52, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

As The Cleveland Show is a spin-off to Family Guy we could always just cover it in this project, even without a task force/subproject. Similar to how WP:WHO handles The Sarah Jane Adventures. Harry Blue5 (talk) 17:15, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

I probably think so. I want to possibly start a The Cleveland Show work group/task force of WP:ANIMATION or WP:TV, since it handles man Animation WikiProjects. JJ98 (Talk) 23:10, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Pilot Pitch

A new user created this article and I'm not sure what should be done with it. Is this a legitimate pilot episode? P. D. Cook ^{Talk to me!} 21:23, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

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FA Topic Drive

Thought I would put this out here, the wikipedians who significantly contribute to this project do a great job, we have alot of GAs, two FAs, two FLs and one GT. Now this is great but I think we could make signifcant progress with a FA Topic Drive, which is basicly, wikipedians from this project working together to get common things in progress, such as most contributers working in a Topic to get it to FT or GT. For now Season 8 is almost there and I took care of most of Season one for GT. But if we work together I think we could get alot done. What do you guys think? --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 02:11, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

For example take what WP:SIMPSONS and what South Park have achived. Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 02:17, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Totally!! Some GA's , I nominated and worked very hard on!! Railer-man (talk) 19:50, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

My editing has plunged lately...I guess burnt out on Wikipedia...I can probably do some copy edits before an article is submitted, but as far as actually writing a GA/FA, I don't have any desire for that right now. CTJF83 20:20, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Need help with preparing "Mind Over Murder" for (re)nomination for Good Article status

Hello! I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask help of you fine folks, but hey, I'm doing it anyways. See, in late June, the article Mind Over Murder was nominated for GA status. It was failed pretty quickly, and pretty convincingly. There were quite a few prose issues, though about everything else seemed fine. So when I stumbled onto it I set about improving it, and I feel like we're getting close to another go-around.

This'll be my first GA nomination, on the other end of the fence. I'm a little excited about it... I'd like your help in picking out and improving any of the problems that remain. I've listed most of my concerns on the article's talk page. Any other input would be greatly appreciated! Bobnorwal (talk) 03:55, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

I have been the one working on the season, I'll see what I can do, thanks for your collaboration. Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 04:33, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh, alright. I look forward, then, to working with you to improve this article... and perhaps others? Who knows? Bobnorwal (talk) 15:14, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

B-Class checklist

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Ocean's Three and a Half, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Snuggums (talk / edits) 16:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Merger needed

Hello everyone- Fox animated shared universe and Family Guy Universe have both recently been created. If we really need an article on this topic (and I'm not sure we do), we only need one- could we perhaps have some interested eyes on the article, perhaps with a view to merging them? Thanks! Josh Milburn (talk) 00:10, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Fifth Season drive

Alright, awhile ago Season 5 of FG which was on GT was taken of because some of the episodes were taken off GA status. Because of that I ask that anybody that is still active in this task group to help and promote those articles to GA. Thanks. --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 04:21, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Archived some threads

I've archived some inactive threads to subsections which were notifications about discussions that have since been closed. — Cirt (talk) 03:56, 1 February 2014 (UTC)