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Rural, Wisconsin
The area code for Rural is listed in the box on the right as 920 - At this time I do not know if 920 crosses into Waupaca County at all. The area code for Rural is currently 715. This info needs to be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Irishrovr (talk • contribs) 16:48, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
The La Crosse Tribune
The La Crosse Tribune revamp its website on the internet. For Wikipedia especially WP Wisconsin that means the many citations using the La Crosse Tribune for citations are deadlinks. The citations will be staying in- goodfaith edits. Sigh... The Trib said they are working out the bugs for the archives. Thanks-RFD (talk) 12:41, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- Isn't there some way to get them archived through some other website? I remember reading about some website (not Internet Archive) that will archive a website for Wikipedia. Does anyone remember? Royalbroil 01:34, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Update-I checked with the editor from the La Crosse Tribune and they are working the bugs out with their archives. The La Crosse Public Library is concern because make use of the Trib online to look up obituaries-Thanks-RFD (talk) 23:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
University of Wisconsin campus names
Please let me preface this with an apology. I am sorry for having pursued a project of replacing hyphens with en dashes in the names of UW campuses without having discussed it first with this WikiProject. Despite my good intentions, I failed to consider how potentially disruptive this move would be. I therefore come before you to discuss this move, ignoring that it may be a fait accompli; if consensus opposes, I'll take it as my penance to thoroughly undo. Kevin Forsyth (talk) 13:07, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
For discussion: Should hyphens be replaced with en dashes in the names of UW campuses? e.g. University of Wisconsin–Oshkosh and UW–Oshkosh, rather than UW-Oshkosh.
Support for these reasons:
- The UW style guide wants an en dash between Wisconsin (or UW) and the campus name — i.e., the University itself considers an en dash to be the proper usage.
- MOS:ENDASH states "When naming an article, a hyphen is not used as a substitute for an en dash that properly belongs in the title".
- The lack of an en dash on a US-standard keyboard should not be a deterrent. It is easily added to an edit via either the Wikipedia tools or alt-0150. Of course, per the guidelines I have placed redirects at any possible hyphenated alternate names, to facilitate searches.
- Strictly as a matter of my aesthetic opinion, the en dash appears much more strong and robust in these names than a mere hyphen. I'm hopeful that UW alums would find it a visual improvement. Kevin Forsyth (talk) 13:07, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Proceed/Finish You've already spent so much time and effort to do these moves, I don't think you should undo. I probably would have opposed had this been asked before you did so much effort, but it's not a big deal to me. There appears to be no consensus between the different universities! My alma mater uses UW Oshkosh and University of Wisconsin Oshkosh all over its website [1]. The University of Wisconsin System website uses University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh (a dash) [2]. LaCrosse uses both the dash and endash on their homepage [3]. Wow, this is making my head spin! Royalbroil 03:33, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Well and let's not even talk about the media outside of Wisconsin. It's almost always Wisconsin-Eau Claire or Wisconsin-Milwaukee or even the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee. It's all over the place. Won't even start on UW-Madison constantly being called the University of Wisconsin. --User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 20:35, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- I use the sandbox to see if this will take hold and I had no problems with the en-dash.Thanks-RFD (talk) 23:19, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Washington Island
I'm going to Washington Island (possibly) this upcoming weekend. Is there anything related that I should take a picture of? I'm taking a camera with me.--Rockfang (talk) 11:06, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Namur
There appears to be two redundant articles talking about the same locale: Namur, Wisconsin and Namur Historic District. The place article is just a location an pictures of historical plaques while the historic district article is nearly devoid of content. Looking through the links and references, there does not appear to be any differentiation between the two. Furthermore, the listed area of the district is 3,500 acres, which includes the entire hamlet plus the surrounding farms. I would like opinions on whether a merge is appropriate (at least until more substantial content is added). Thanks. --Polaron | Talk 17:30, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- Do you really want to hook horns again with that other contributor on this topic again? This has been a real contentious topic of late. There certainly are enough reliable sources justifications for having articles about a community just like there are justifications for having articles on historic districts. Royalbroil 01:03, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
- Some thoughts-in the Namur Historical District article I added a citation from the Wisconsin Historical Society about the historical district. In the Wisconsin Historical Society article- it mentioned the Namur Historical District covers parts of the towns of Union and Gardner. Given the Political subdivisions of Wisconsin, it would be impractical to merge the two articles. Given the fact that the Namur Historical District does cover 2 different Wisconsin towns, would that mean merging the Namur Historical District article with the Union and Gardner articles? I would think not. I am in complete agreement with RoyalBroil about locking horns with the other editor. There has been way too much WikiDrama in the way of the violation of the 3RR, Users getting blocked-angry frustration, etc. Also I am getting weary of this. The recent Law Affair Scandal involving the sockpuppet and the various administrators, the coverup, has not help either. Thank you for letting myself express my opinion and feelings-RFD (talk) 12:24, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
- The historic district is fairly large (5.5 square miles) and does extend a bit beyond Union. However, the focus of the historic district is clearly the settlement of Namur. What I am thinking of is retaining the historic district article and merging the settlement article content (which at present isn't much) into the larger historic district article. I 'm not sure where the idea of merging into the town articles is coming from. I am not in any way proposing mergers to town articles. What I'm saying is, wouldn't it make sense to merge the stubby Namur settlement article into the Namur historic district article? Would there really be enough distinct content in this particular case for two independent articles? I know you are friends with another party to the WikiDrama you might be referring to and not with me but please evaluate this on its own merits. Thank you. --Polaron | Talk 16:30, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with RoyalBroil that this is a contentious topic. Therefore, I would prefer if this can wait. I do know there has been edit wars. As for merging town articles there has been incidents of several Wisconsin towns articles being merged with Wisconsin village articles with the same name by people who do not realize that they are separate municipalities. As for the the 2 Namur articles I respectfully ask that you wait. These edit wars are very unsettling. Thank you-RFD (talk) 18:23, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
- I am suggesting that someone from the Wisconsin project do it rather than me as anything I do is apparently controversial. In any case, this is not urgent and I do agree that waiting is the best option for now. I have put a link to the NRHP nomination form at Talk:Namur Historic District for people to read through and decide for themselves. Sorry for bothering you. --Polaron | Talk 19:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
- I have been to both the community and the historic district. They are complete opposites. The focus is the historic district is the farms in the area - the rural community! It is not the "urban" (but tiny community) named Namur. The district is the the farms surrounding that community. The historic district is named after the community because the historic district is most easily identified by this community's name. So I strongly oppose this merge. Royalbroil 04:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, if you say so. I asked here since I'm not familiar with the place. In any case, there is no question that the settlement is part of the historic district and is one of the focal points of the district. But yf you're sure that the history of the settlement is not directly related to the history of the farmsteads to its north, then I'll leave this to people with local knowledge (which is how it should be in practice anyway). --Polaron | Talk 18:21, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- I have been to both the community and the historic district. They are complete opposites. The focus is the historic district is the farms in the area - the rural community! It is not the "urban" (but tiny community) named Namur. The district is the the farms surrounding that community. The historic district is named after the community because the historic district is most easily identified by this community's name. So I strongly oppose this merge. Royalbroil 04:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- I am suggesting that someone from the Wisconsin project do it rather than me as anything I do is apparently controversial. In any case, this is not urgent and I do agree that waiting is the best option for now. I have put a link to the NRHP nomination form at Talk:Namur Historic District for people to read through and decide for themselves. Sorry for bothering you. --Polaron | Talk 19:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Photo requests
Would someone mind photographing the headquarters of Midwest Airlines (in Oak Creek, WI) and Air Wisconsin (near Appleton, WI)? Both articles need photos of the main offices of those airlines. Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 23:19, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
- Photographing the Air Wisconsin HQ is already on my To Do list! It's located at the Outagamie County Regional Airport in a western suburb of Appleton. Royalbroil 00:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
- When you get the chance to get a shot of the HQ building, please do so, Royal :) - Anyway, I attached photo request templates on the talk pages of both articles; when each request is fulfilled, the corresponding request template will be removed. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
- I've got the Midwest HQ photo. Please check the talk page. -Freekee (talk) 06:26, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Of course that's good enough! I added it to the article. Next time please add it! I added the building to the "Transport in Wisconsin" category on Commons as it's related to air transport. Royalbroil 14:01, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Census-designated places in Wisconsin
One thing I found out about the census-designated places in Wisconsin is that they have some special government district usually lake protection/rehabilition district and that the various land owners associations usually are connected with these districts. Sanitary/sewage districts would be another example. I told Nyttend that I suspect that this is not only in Wisconsin-but in rest of the nation as well. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 15:17, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- Do you propose adding information about these districts within the existing CDP articles? I would imagine that would be the most helpful, as opposed to making new articles about each sanitary district. Speaking of CDPs, I'm curious about what people thing about changing the name or focus of some of the articles. Take for instance the article Chain O' Lakes-King, Wisconsin. King has been an unincorporated community since 1887, and has been home to the King post office for nearly that long as well. [4], [5]. Yet the name and layout of the article focus on the census designated place with a separate name. (Also, sorry about blanking the WPWI page a couple minutes ago... I incorrectly thought I was on my userpage space to test a new featured article bot)--BaronLarf 18:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- About the CO'L-King CDP - I would prefer to see the article moved to King, Waupaca County, Wisconsin and have the CDP redirected to it. Chain O'Lakes is a region of lakes by Waupaca - not really a community like the other CDPs like Neopit, Wisconsin. I went on a tour boat on them once and to Hartman Creek State Park (got those pics the last time I was there). I remember driving past the Veteran's home once - many, many moons ago - when my parents' long departed friend was there. Since King has a post office so it should have its own article. The CO'L/King article just doesn't make sense to me. And shame on you for blanking the page (just kidding). Royalbroil 00:35, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- Regarding the Chain O' Lakes-King article: I decided to be bold and move the page to King, Waupaca County, Wisconsin. (I was just there a couple of days ago myself; too bad I didn't bring a camera.)--BaronLarf 01:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- If you get to King again, there are a bunch of places in the King Veterans home that are listed on the National Register - so their pictures should be appreciated. I get through Waupaca while driving on US 10, so that city it done, but the other parts of the county aren't. I take one (or both) of my cameras with me whenever I travel. Your photographic contributions are welcome of course! I know that you were gone for a while - now everyone pretty much uploads to Wikimedia Commons so that they can be used on the other Wikipedias. I have created MANY city categories there. You can create one if your there, or at least please add to the county's category. Royalbroil 03:35, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, will do. I just got done uploading and linking to a bunch of photos (Redgranite, Omro, Aurora, Wild Rose & Wautoma). My camera isn't the greatest, but it's better than nothing I suppose. I'll make sure that they're properly categorized the the commons. --BaronLarf 03:40, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- You're camera did very well, just like you did! Good job with the light and picking the right content. I haven't been to many of these communities in the past few years, so these pictures were definitely needed. I like taking pictures of the type of things that you did - main intersections, downtowns, city/village halls, high schoools, maybe a library, plus anything on the National Register of Historic Places is always welcome. I reviewed the images and added each to categories. I have created categories for each Wisconsin Highway that I've photographed. Then I'll add any image taken on the route. I have created categories for the most commons building types, like Category:Town halls in Wisconsin, Schools in Wisconsin, Libraries in Wisconsin, Rivers of Wisconsin, Category:Universities and colleges in Wisconsin, etc. I feel that we are responsible for all of the images in Commons Category:Wisconsin, which is a collection of anything to do with Wisconsin. Royalbroil 04:44, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, will do. I just got done uploading and linking to a bunch of photos (Redgranite, Omro, Aurora, Wild Rose & Wautoma). My camera isn't the greatest, but it's better than nothing I suppose. I'll make sure that they're properly categorized the the commons. --BaronLarf 03:40, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- If you get to King again, there are a bunch of places in the King Veterans home that are listed on the National Register - so their pictures should be appreciated. I get through Waupaca while driving on US 10, so that city it done, but the other parts of the county aren't. I take one (or both) of my cameras with me whenever I travel. Your photographic contributions are welcome of course! I know that you were gone for a while - now everyone pretty much uploads to Wikimedia Commons so that they can be used on the other Wikipedias. I have created MANY city categories there. You can create one if your there, or at least please add to the county's category. Royalbroil 03:35, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- Regarding the Chain O' Lakes-King article: I decided to be bold and move the page to King, Waupaca County, Wisconsin. (I was just there a couple of days ago myself; too bad I didn't bring a camera.)--BaronLarf 01:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- About the CO'L-King CDP - I would prefer to see the article moved to King, Waupaca County, Wisconsin and have the CDP redirected to it. Chain O'Lakes is a region of lakes by Waupaca - not really a community like the other CDPs like Neopit, Wisconsin. I went on a tour boat on them once and to Hartman Creek State Park (got those pics the last time I was there). I remember driving past the Veteran's home once - many, many moons ago - when my parents' long departed friend was there. Since King has a post office so it should have its own article. The CO'L/King article just doesn't make sense to me. And shame on you for blanking the page (just kidding). Royalbroil 00:35, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- A brief description of the various special districts within each CDP would be helpful provided that there a website for each. Nyttend started and wrote many of the CDP articles throughout the nation so Nyttend probably would to like express any comments, etc. We are talking not only lake rehabilition districts but sanitary districts, etc. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 12:53, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- I can't find any good list of these districts throughout the state; do you have a link to one? Thanks, --BaronLarf 17:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- Wisconsin Lakes Association=RFD (talk) 17:57, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- Wisconsin Public Service Commission-Lists of Special Districts
- Cool, thanks!--BaronLarf 19:55, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Noted article section
There's a new bot-updated template for noted articles meant for use in WikiProjects. I've let it populate on my userspace, at User:BaronLarf/WPWI. Any objection to replacing the current (and somewhat out-of-date) listings with the new template? Cheers, --BaronLarf 11:13, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- Support Wow, looks much better. I've been trying to maintain the old way (and I think that I started it)- this is much better. How/where did you find out about it? Royalbroil 12:53, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- On the "other news" section of the "Article alerts" section on the WP:WPWI main page. I finally decided to read that part, and I'm glad I did. :^)--BaronLarf 20:12, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Towns vs. cities in Wisconsin
There's an article in Sunday's Appleton Post Crescent newspaper describing the difference between towns and cities. In case someone wants the content - I see that the Oshkosh Northwestern has the article too [6]. Royalbroil 13:10, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- This seems like another town versus city battle in Wisconsin. The Town of Cedarburg sued the City of Cedarburg to stop an annexation in 2005.[7] The state legislature changed the Wisconsin constitution in the 1950s to permit Oak Creek to incorporated as a city to stop the encroachment of Milwaukee.[8] The Town of Pewaukee staved off annexation from the Village of Pewaukee by incorporated as the City of Pewaukee.
- From time to time there's also fights among cities & villages about which one of them will annex parts of towns. Just the other day in Kenosha County, the newly organized Village of Bristol (No article yet!) is coming into conflict with the Village of Pleasant Prairie over the annexation of the rest of the Town of Bristol.[9] Pleasant Prairie itself was incorporated when the Town of Pleasant Prairie began to be annexed by the City of Kenosha.[10] Over in the Town of Madison, officials want the town to dissolve, and the City of Madison and the City of Fitchburg fought over who would annex what.[11] The Village of West Salem and the City of Onalaska are in a fight over attempts by residents of the Town of Hamilton to get annexed by West Salem.[12] The Village of Brown Deer and the City of Milwaukee fought over annexation of the former Town of Granville—after referenda and a court battle, Milwaukee ended up getting all the rest of Granville, plus parts of Brown Deer.[13][14]
- One of the interesting things to note in that article about Grand Chute is the boundary agreement between Appleton and Grand Chute. From what I understand, the state legislature has increased the power of towns in recent decades to give more power to towns, forcing cities to the table and craft these agreements in order to expand. Maybe this sort of thing has a home over at Political subdivisions of Wisconsin? Cheers --BaronLarf 19:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- Yea, there's always something going on. I used to work at an engineering company in Sheboygan and we would sometimes talk about land use as related to the surrounding towns. I see that the best content was missed in that article. Luckily I still have the article in my hand. I knew there was an article about towns vs cities/villages in Wisconsin. Off I go to add and cite some content! Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Royalbroil 00:23, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- In the article abour Belgium, the Belgium village is said to be contained in the town of Belgium, but the articles say the village has more inhabitants than the town... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.129.46.177 (talk) 19:32, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes. So? The Village is a separate entity, surrounded by the remaining Town.--Orange Mike | Talk 20:25, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
WP:WIH proposed demotion
A child project of WP:WPWI, WP:WikiProject Wisconsin Highways, is being proposed for demotion at Wikipedia_talk:USRD/SUB. According to the template placed on the WikiProject, users are encouraged to comment in favor or against demotion there. Cheers, --BaronLarf 06:13, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Neighborhoods in Wisconsin-merging with other articles-
There is a category: Category:Neighborhoods in Wisconsin with 14 names. Carol Beach, Dexter's Corner, Ranney, Tobin are part of the village of Pleasant Village and should be merged into the article itself. In fact all the articles could be merge into the parent articles-East Ellsworth article into the Ellsworth, Wisconsin article; Gile, Wisconsin in the Montreal, Wisconsin article, Crestview, Racine County, into the village of Caledonia, Wisconsin article. Of the 14 Freistadt has some historical value. All 14 articles are about nieighborhoods that exist in incorporated areas in Wisconsin. 2 of them Frankville and Evergreen were former CPDs. Thanks-RFD (talk) 21:30, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, they could be merged, but I've seen articles on neighborhoods before (I think on Did You Know. So there are precedents to keep them. That said, many of these have very limited sources and content. I do think the CDP articles should remain, but I don't care about the other ones. I won't stand in the way of someone merging the other 12 articles. Royalbroil 04:17, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- I think that they should probably be looked at on a case-by-case basis. East Ellsworth, Wisconsin could easily be merged into Ellsworth, Wisconsin. But articles regarding neighborhoods of larger cities like Racine, Kenosha, or Madison should either be left as neighborhoods or merged into one article per city, such as Neighborhoods of Milwaukee. (And since there are strong pro-keep opinions about keeping CDP articles, I would have no problem keeping those as separate articles.) Cheers, --BaronLarf 04:56, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with with Royalbroil the 2 former CPDS articles=Frankville, Evergreen should remained. Also because of its historical nature, Freistadt should remain. One note of interest East Ellsworth&Gile have own post offices and zipcodes which were the reasons the articles were started in the first place even though they are incorporated areas. That leaves the 4 neighborhoods of Pleasant Prairie and Crestview of Caledonia. They need to brought together somehow-Thanks-RFD (talk) 13:40, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- The Nakoma neighborhood in Madison is historical and should be kept. I am not sure about Flintville and Georgetown. Thanks-RFD (talk) 13:49, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Another area to look at-the village of Bristol, Wisconsin in Kenosha, Wisconsin was incorporated. The town of Bristol still exists but the village wants to annex the town. The town of Bristol has 2 unincorporated communities Pikesvile and Woodworth. If the town does get annexed we may may have to decided what to do with both of them. This is what happen to Pleasant Prairie and caledonia=they were towns and were incorporated as villages and the unincorporated communities became part of the villages-Thank you-RFD (talk) 13:57, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Curious, what would be the harm in redirecting the stub neighborhood articles? If I understand all of you rightly, none of these communities are notable as former municipalities and thus inherently notable. In case you wonder why I've popped in — RFD told me that I might be interested in this discussion. Nyttend (talk) 20:10, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Redirects for most of these would be fine with me. Those articles with notable information (like Freistadt, Wisconsin) could have that info merged. Nyttend, would you be okay with making redirects for Evergreen, Marathon County, Wisconsin to Kronenwetter, Wisconsin and Franksville, Wisconsin to Caledonia, Racine County, Wisconsin? Cheers --BaronLarf 20:35, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Curious, what would be the harm in redirecting the stub neighborhood articles? If I understand all of you rightly, none of these communities are notable as former municipalities and thus inherently notable. In case you wonder why I've popped in — RFD told me that I might be interested in this discussion. Nyttend (talk) 20:10, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Can East Ellsworth and Gile be included in the redirect? Both have PO and zipcodes? Also Carol Beach has some ancient Indian sites= Barnes Creek (Wisconsin). According to the Pleasant Prairie village website the village had 9 unincorporated communities prior to being a village-Thanks-RFD (talk) 21:16, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
I merged East Ellsworth, Wisconsin into Ellsworth, Wisconsin; Gile, Wisconsin into Montreal, Wisconsin; Flintville, Wisconsin into Suamico, Wisconsin; Freistadt, Wisconsin into Mequon, Wisconsin; and Dexter's Corner, Wisconsin, Carol Beach, Wisconsin, Ranney, Wisconsin, and Tobin, Wisconsin into Pleasant Prairie, Wisconsin. I believe that these are all uncontroversial merges. I know that RFD has also made a couple merges (Georgetown, Racine, Wisconsin into Racine, Wisconsin and Crestview, Racine County, Wisconsin into Caledonia, Wisconsin are two I noticed.) If there are consensus objections to any of these merges, they are easily undone.
Reading the above discussion, it looks like we have the following articles left:
- Evergreen, Marathon County, Wisconsin and Franksville, Wisconsin are former CDPs. It appears that Royalbroil (and perhaps Nyttend) are against merging and redirecting these articles. I am in favor of merging, but I can wait a year or two until the 2010 Census data is out with new census data not including these areas. At that point, there will be no unique information in these articles that could keep them from being merged into their respective municipalities.
- Nakoma, Madison, Wisconsin This is a neighborhood of Madison, Wisconsin. A merge would not be wise here, in my opinion, because this is just one neighborhood of many in this major city. I believe this article is best merged into a future Neighborhoods of Madison, Wisconsin article with additional Madison neighborhoods.
- Truesdell, Wisconsin Neighborhood of Kenosha, Wisconsin. As with Nakoma, I believe it should be merged into a Neighborhoods of Kenosha, Wisconsin article with additional Kenosha neighborhoods.
Thoughts?--BaronLarf 06:35, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
- I redirected the Georgetown, Racine, Wisconsin neighborhood article maybe a little prematurely- When a section about neighborhoods in Racine is started maybe there will mention of this neighborhood. I do agree with Nyttend and Royalbroil about the former CDPs in Wisconsin and there are 3 so far. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 12:33, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
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- Wow, some real shockers in this group. Dahmer is #1 - never would guessed. I never heard of #21 Bon Iver outside of Wikipedia - obviously I'm missing out on something! Time to do some searching to find out their sound. Royalbroil 02:34, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- The Dahmer article is frequently vandalized; that's why I monitor it (though I may have dined with him, since he lived near my then-favorite Taco Bell). --Orange Mike | Talk 20:24, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Meetup
Has there ever been a Wiki meetup in Wisconsin? Jonathunder (talk) 04:05, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- I haven't heard of one. I'd be interested, though. --BaronLarf 21:19, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- They can be fun. It would just take a person, or a few people, to take the lead in organizing it. I've done that in the past for the Minnesota one. Jonathunder (talk) 21:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- Sounds interesting, maybe a Saturday or Sunday afternoon would be best for me. This time of year I want to get to the racetracks on Friday &/or Saturday nights. I don't know where the best place would be - maybe Madison? Depends if anyone wants to come from the LaCrosse area or not. If just Milwaukee area people plus me, maybe Port Washington would work. Preferring to keep it general in the public forum, I live in the Fox Valley area. Royalbroil 02:49, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- I live in the Milwaukee area, and would be willing to travel as far as Madison or the Fox Valley to meet up. Weekends are better for me, as well. And planning at least a month in advance would be best, I would think, too. --BaronLarf 09:45, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- They can be fun. It would just take a person, or a few people, to take the lead in organizing it. I've done that in the past for the Minnesota one. Jonathunder (talk) 21:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- I live in La Crosse; weekends would be fine. Also I never had a car or drivers license so I would have to find some way to get there. The Amtrak to Columbus, Wisconsin of Milwaukee? Thanks-RFD (talk) 16:45, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- Include me among those interested in Milwaukee or Madison as a site. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia will celebrate its tenth anniversary on Saturday, January 15, 2011. Meetup events are being planned worldwide. How about one in Madison? Jonathunder (talk) 04:00, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Saturday is out for me for obvious reasons if you know me... Let me know about any non-Saturday meetups tho, and I'm game. I'd be willing to drive as far as Madison or Appleton from Eau Claire for it. Green Bay I guess isn't out, but Milwaukee starts to get a bit ridiculous... Keep me in the loop! Cheers, Tomertalk 21:31, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Superior, Wisconsin
I took many photos during a recent stay in Superior, mostly of buildings. I tried to get the ones listed on the National Register. With some of them, it's a bit hard to identify which historic property is the one listed. If any editors are familiar with this city and wish to help, please let me know. Jonathunder (talk) 12:58, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think that all of the regulars here live in completely different parts of the state, I hope I'm wrong! Royalbroil 21:47, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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Alan Kulwicki second attempt at Featured status
On Commons, I discussed with another contributor about getting something NASCAR featured for WikiProject NASCAR. We agreed that Alan Kulwicki is probably the best option. I attempted it at Featured Article before and it didn't pass because there was too much to do. It didn't fail because it was real bad. Since he was from Wisconsin, I request that members of this WikiProject review the article for excellence in grammar, spotless sourcing using impeccable reliable sources, content flow, etc. We decided to nominate it in just under 2 weeks after I get back from an extended weekend vacation next weekend. I have already requested reviews from my fellow WikiProject NASCAR members. Royalbroil 04:33, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Talk:Milwaukee Bridge War
"In 1840, the Wisconsin State Legislature, finding the ferry system on the Milwaukee River to be "inadequate", ordered the construction of a bridge. "
Wouldn't it have been difficult for the Wisconsin State Legislature to have acted in 1840, given that Wisconsin didn't become a state until 1848? :)
I note two of the three references cited on the page simply state "legislature" and the third explicitly states "territorial legislature".
W9wi (talk) 03:06, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- You can edit it without asking for permission, especially in an obvious case like this. Royalbroil 03:56, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
WikiProject U.S. tagging
I've been in a discussion at WikiProject United States. One senior editor wants to use a bot to add WikiProject United States to the talk pages for any article in certain U.S. categories - even if it's already part of a state WikiProject. How do you think Wikipedians will react to seeing WikiProject Wisconsin and WikiProject United States on article talk pages? Royalbroil 03:09, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- I had been adding WP-Wisconsin to categories relating to Wisconsin. This helps us out to see what categories would be needed that are on record. This would be a duplication of the various WP States Projects. Also I have a love/hate relationship with the bots especially in starting a simple stub of an article only to be classified as a copyright violation when none exists. Please no more bots! Please keep things as they are. Thank ypu-RFD (talk) 13:08, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- The point of this is that some projects are active and some are not and some that are may not be in the future. This is just an attemtpt to try and ensure that all US related topics are covered, preferably from multiple angles (National, State, potentially city, etc). I also want to clarify that this bot will only add the WPUS banner and assessment. It isn't replacing the state banner, making statements of copyvios and the like or anythnig else. Bots are not bad, they save us from doing painstaking work by automating tedious functions. Plus, If I don't use a bot then that means having to manually tag tens of thousands of articles myself. Further, although this project may be active many of the state projects are not and this will allow multiple points of visibility on the article. Is it duplicative, yes no doubt but is it harmful to the article. Nope and in fact its necessary to ensure that articles are covered from different angles. It is no more a problem than having 2 different states or having a state and the WPMILHIST US/ACW/ARW task force. The WikiProjects run autonimously of one another. The state projects might logically fall under WP:US as you state but its by association only, the projects are separate entities. I also want to clarify that if I dont "tag" articles that are already associated to a US related wikiproject (such as a state) it will mean having to exclude more than 100 different US related Wikiprojects, which would be extremely hard if its possible at all. With that said, if Wisconsin wanted to work in cooperation with WPUS and allow the WP Wisonsin banner to be embedded in the US banner in a similar way that the WPMILHIST does task forces (just to be clear it would still be its own project) or how WPBIO does its Priority/workgroup=? then that could be done as well. That would in fact be better, but Im not asking for that. --Kumioko (talk) 18:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Many thanks for the comment-it does clarify things especially the bots. RFD (talk) 18:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Just for curiousity sake I went and did a comparison of articles that WPUS and WPWisconsin have. As of today, WPUS currently has 10750 (I updated the numebrs this morning they were at 10441 yesterday), WPWisconsin has 11016 and of those only 101 are currently in-common between the 2 projects. Upon further review most of the 101 are Medal of Honor recipients. Which reflects another interesting point of view in that a Medal of Honor recipient, perhaps arguably, is just as important from a National perspective as they are from a state or local perspective. --Kumioko (talk) 18:44, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
WikiProject cleanup listing
I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 20:03, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Invitation to help with WikiProject United States
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Wisconsin municipalities categories
To my fellow Wisconsin Wikipedians administrators and editors- We need to keep an eye out for any new categories involving Wisconsin municipalities that will be appearing on the recent changes. User Tomer started this with the unincorporated communities of Dunn and Eau Claire Counties with categories for them and now User: Ktr101 started this for Westfield, Wisconsin in Marquette County. These new categories need to be correct according to the Political subdivisions of Wisconsin. The Wisconsin counties navigational templetes are also helpful. The categories also need to have the WP Wisconsin templates with: |class=category be put on the talk pages. That way we have this on record in case there are any questions, etc. Several WikiProjects involving the various states in the United States have these types of categories but not us. Finally I goof up with this by putting this on Billy Mitchell talk page-it was an accident and I had to delete it. My apologies on this-Thank you-RFD (talk) 14:21, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
A consideration for cross project consolidation of talk page templates
I have started a conversation here about the possibility of combining some of the United States related WikiProject Banners into {{WikiProject United States}}. If you have any comments, questions or suggestions please take a moment and let me know. --Kumioko (talk) 05:00, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
US Collaboration reactivated & Portal:United States starting next
Casliber recently posted a suggestion on the talk page for WikiProject United States about getting the US Wikipedians Collaboration page going again in an effort to build up articles for GA through FA class. See Wikipedia:U.S. Wikipedians' notice board/USCOTM. After several days of work from him the page is up and ready for action. A few candidates have already been added for you to vote on or you can submit one using the directions provided. If you are looking for inspiration here is a link to the most commonly viewed articles currently under the scope of Wikiproject United States. There are tons of good articles in the various US related projects as well so feel free to submit any article relating to US topics (not just those under the scope of WPUS). This noticeboard is intended for ‘’’All’’’ editors working on US subjects, not just those under WPUS.
The next item I intend to start updating is Portal:United States if anyone is interested in helping. Again this is not specific to WPUS and any help would be greatly appreciated to maximize visibility of US topics. The foundation has already been established its just a matter of updating the content with some new images, biographies and articles. Please let leave a comment on the Portals talk page or let me know if you have any questions or ideas. --Kumioko (talk) 23:41, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Protests on ITN
I didn't expect to ever see a Wisconsin-specific topic on the "In The News" section of the main page. The 2011 Wisconsin budget protests have made it. Too bad there's so much division in the state on this topic because we'd have a reason to celebrate. Royalbroil 03:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Ryan Zeinert nominated for deletion
I have nominated the article for deletion. I don't see how he's notable, but I'd love to be wrong. Please join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan Zeinert. Royalbroil 23:40, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
WikiProject Wisconsin
I notice WikiProject South Carolina is pulled under WikiProject United States. A discussion about whether we should do the same may be needed. I am not sure if any of the other WikiProjects involving the states have done the same. Thank you-RFD (talk) 11:49, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
- I know several others are. I have asked questions about it at WikiProject West Virginia. It's voluntary for those less active WikiProjects and I doubt we'll be asked since we're known as one of the most active. All they're doing is pulling the state WikiProject template on the talk pages under the national one. Royalbroil 12:04, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Expand on Reuben Glaser
Hi there, StupidDumbGnome (talk) here. Im just a fan from Wisconsin but I decided to write the article about Reuben Glaser when I saw he didn't have one, which i was kind of surprised about given that he was all over the news a few months ago. I see there had been some deleted articles, but I think we can all agree he is at least kind of notable now and there's no shortage of sources and articles to validate that, but once again I am just a fan, not an expert, and i'm new here to Wiki, so I worry that many things are excluded from the page. I've been following him for years and he has been providing a unique Wisconsin liberal and humorous voice that carries quite a bit of weight in this state (or at least wth me) and is expanding. I'm sure you could dig up all sorts of stuff about him, such as stuff he's written, things he's said, people he's met, etc. Also maybe elaborate on the Rosie Jones Rosie Jones (model) rumors. I almost added their rumored romance to her page too but I wasn't sure if I should because it's just a rumor. Should I do that? Maybe one of you guys? I don't want to do something i'll regret. But his twitter and her twitter certainly suggest something more than friendship and i think that's really interesting if you know him or follow him online like I do. Could somebody better at Wikipedia add some stuff to the page and maybe make a night project out of it or something? i think its probably lacking a lot right now. Thanks a lot!
StupidDumbGnome (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:26, 13 January 2012 (UTC).
PS. I only came here because that's what the talk page said I should do. That's why I think you guys would be willing to help. If nothing else, could you just take a look at it and tell me what you think? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by StupidDumbGnome (talk • contribs) 04:46, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
WikiWomen's History Month
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Wisconsin will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Wisconsin's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 00:44, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Greetings from GLAM-Wiki US
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which Lima, Wisconsin, for "round barn" Dean-Armstrong-Englund Octagonal Barn ???
Hey, which of many Lima's of Wisconsin apply for a barn of the octagonal-round type,the Dean-Armstrong-Englund Octagonal Barn, built c.1889-93, southeast of Lima.[1]: 3
- ^ Nancy Belle Douglas (November 10, 1978). "National Register of Historic Places Multiple Property Documentation: Centric Barns in Rock County TR" (PDF). National Park Service.
--doncram 20:17, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- It's Lima, Rock County, Wisconsin, which we usually display as Lima, Wisconsin or more appropriately town of Lima, Wisconsin. Royalbroil 04:08, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Ashland area photos
I'm going to the Ashland / Bayfield area soon. I have the listings on the National Register of Historic Places for the area. Does anyone need a photograph from the area? Royalbroil 12:21, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Templates nominated for deletion
Template:WINRHPDate and Template:National Register of Historic Places in Wisconsin topnav have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the templates' entry on the Templates for discussion page. DH85868993 (talk) 10:26, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Sterling Hall bombing proposed subpage merge
I recently proposed a merge that would return several subpages of the Sterling Hall bombing back into the article per the WP:CRIME subpage guideline. Since the page in question is part of the project, I thought I'd drop a note in case you're interested. czar · · 18:19, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
La Grange, Wisconsin redirect
The disambiguation page for all of the La Granges in Wisconsin was changed to a redirect to all La Granges in the world. Please comment at Talk:La Grange, Wisconsin. Royalbroil 00:45, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Cities and villages are not part of towns
I noticed that a lot of articles on villages in Wisconsin state that they are located "in" a particular town or another. Cities and villages in Wisconsin are legally independent of the towns (townships) which surround them, and whose former land they were probably incorporated from. An example of this is Randolph, Wisconsin, which I recently edited, but left the original statements untouched. If there were only a few of these articles, I would normally change the wording to reflect the fact that they are independent, but there are just too many of these for me to want to change them individually. Backspace (talk) 18:25, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- I would recommend phrasing such as "surrounded by
X townshipthe Town of X, of which it was formerly a part". --Orange Mike | Talk 18:44, 11 June 2013 (UTC)- You may want to read the Political subdivisions of Wisconsin article. Also in Wisconsin, the Wisconsin Towns are known as towns not townships as in other states.Thanks-RFD (talk) 19:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- I'm glad to meet someone outside of Wisconsin finally understands that cities and villages are politically independent of towns here! I explained it this past week to someone on Commons. Royalbroil 02:42, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- You may want to read the Political subdivisions of Wisconsin article. Also in Wisconsin, the Wisconsin Towns are known as towns not townships as in other states.Thanks-RFD (talk) 19:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Wisconsin unincorporated communities categories for Dunn and Eau Claire Counties
There is a discussion going about merging or keeping the unincorporated communities categories for Eau Claire and Dunn Counties. Thank you-RFD (talk) 17:28, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Menominee Tribe v. United States is currently undergoing a Featured Article Candidate review at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Menominee Tribe v. United States/archive3. I would invite anyone interested in going by, looking at the article, and if inclined, adding your comments. Regards. GregJackP Boomer! 15:26, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Art+Feminism meetup
I'm organizing a local meetup for the nationwide Art+Feminism edit-a-thon. I'm working with some students and faculty from the UW–Madison library school and we have the library school library's computer lab scheduled for now (Saturday, February 1st, venue and time TBD). If you're interested, please sign Madison's section on the meetup page so I can keep you apprised of the TBD changes. The more, the merrier. And if you have any questions or ideas, drop me a line here or on my talk page. Happy holidays czar ♔ 21:06, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- For any other Wisconsinites following the project—one final announcement about tomorrow's edit-a-thon in Madison, 1–5 p.m. Details: Wikipedia:Meetup/Madison/ArtAndFeminism 2014. Hope to see you there! czar ♔ 03:27, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Popular pages tool update
As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to Wikimedia Tool Labs. The code has changed significantly from the Toolserver version, but users should notice few differences. Please take a moment to look over your project's list for any anomalies, such as pages that you expect to see that are missing or pages that seem to have more views than expected. Note that unlike other tools, this tool aggregates all views from redirects, which means it will typically have higher numbers. (For January 2014 specifically, 35 hours of data is missing from the WMF data, which was approximated from other dates. For most articles, this should yield a more accurate number. However, a few articles, like ones featured on the Main Page, may be off).
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Wisconsin Capitol Photos
I'm planning to take the tour of the Wisconsin Capitol this weekend. I'm planning to get photographs of the Wisconsin State Senate, Wisconsin State Assembly, and Wisconsin Supreme Court. Does anyone have any other photo requests, like a famous old painting or whatever? Royalbroil 04:41, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
A request for comments on the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater article has been posted on the article's talk page. Please contribute your thoughts and ideas. 71.139.142.29 (talk) 14:33, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Humanities edit-a-thon in Madison
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Madison_Public_Library_interior_%289913742865%29.jpg/125px-Madison_Public_Library_interior_%289913742865%29.jpg)
The Madison Public Library will be hosting a humanities edit-a-thon on Friday, April 25th (1:30–3:30), if you're interested. It'll be on the shorter side and is aimed at new editors, but I hope to see you there. More information is available on the 2014 UW Conference on the Public Humanities website. Let me know if you have any questions czar ♔ 23:41, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
There is a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oakhill Christian School. Please contribute. 71.139.142.132 (talk) 16:35, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles within Category:LGBT in the Americas may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! --Another Believer (Talk) 21:05, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Leaflet For Wikiproject Wisconsin At Wikimania 2014
Hi all,
My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.
One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.
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Disambiguation help needed for Jackson, Wisconsin
Greetings! Jackson, Wisconsin is one of our 500 most linked disambiguation pages, with 11 links. Any help in fixing those incoming links would be appreciated. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:16, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Mayors of La Crosse, Wisconsin
In the last few days- 2 articles Mark Johnsrud and Mathias Harter were created. Both men were mayors of La Crosse, Wisconsin-Matt Harter was elected mayor in the 2009 Wisconsin spring elction. Personally- I have doubts about the notability of the articles considering that La Crosse is a small city and I do live here. I did raise a question with one editor that the question of the notability of the mayors of La Crosse may not be dry and cut as it seems. One example John Medinger- he was mayor 1997-2005 yet prior to this he was in the Wisconsin State Assembly. Another example would be Milo Knutson- he was mayor from 1955-1965 but was elected to the Wisconsin State Senate serving from 1969 until 1977. In this both would be notable because of their service in the Wisconsin Legislature. I did refrained from doing the Johnsrud and Harter articles myself because of the nagging question are they notable enough to be included? Can one do a chart or list of the Mayors of La Crosse. Also Mathias Harter was one of the youngest mayors to be elected in Wisconsin. Just some thoughts-RFD (talk) 13:06, 20 October 2009 (UTC) Note: also article about Patrick Zielke was started he was mayor from 1975 until 1997-Thanks again-RFD (talk) 13:10, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Resources collection?
I have an official 1973 Wisconsin DOT map which I'm happy to made publicly available for anyone to use as a reliable source like I did for the route of defunct Wisconsin Highway 84 including Little Kohler, Wisconsin. I was going to mention it here, but it make me think about something even better. In my other WikiProjects, we have compiled lists of sources held by members. The best example is Wikipedia:WikiProject Motorsport/Library. I know I have several Wisconsin Blue Books and some are old (circa 1950s). So if someone needs a specific source, they leave a message on the owner's talk page (or could email if the user isn't active anymore). Who's interested to add their sources to a collection? Royalbroil 14:16, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me! If you set it up, I'll add the resources I've been using. (Online & searchable Blue Books dating back to the 1880s; Dictionary of Wisconsin History; Online & searchable Wisconsin Magazine of History; etc.) Thanks! --BaronLarf 05:15, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- I added it, and it can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wisconsin/Library. We should have done this years ago! Royalbroil 18:19, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
- Looks great! I've added a bunch of stuff and tried to categorize the online stuff by type of resource.--BaronLarf 23:15, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
The Episcopal Dioceses in Wisconsin
There has been some discussions about merging the Eau Claire, Fond du Lac, and Milwaukee Episcopal Dioceses into one Diocese or merging the Eau Claire and Fond du Lac Dioceses. The reasons are the small populations in the various parishes and financial problems. As of right now, there has been no decisions made. Thanks-RFD (talk) 15:01, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I see that an anon contributor added tags on the article saying that it needs to be rewritten since it's an advertisement. I didn't write it, but I don't think it's very bad at all; I do agree that it needs serious work on getting reliable sources. I did take the pictures in the gallery in the bottom. Comments? Royalbroil 04:44, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- After initially writing a whole bit here, I'm going to take my comments to Talk:Wayland Academy so that that editor can see them too. I'm a veteran of the WP:SCHOOL wars, and have plenty of opinions. Thanks for the notice! --BaronLarf 07:46, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Members of the present Wisconsin Legislature-more articles are needed
More articles about members of the present Wisconsin Legislature the 99th Session needed to be started. OrangeMike pointed this out to me. What is interesting most of them are the Republican members of the Legislature need to have articles done although there are 2-3 Democrats have article that are needed. OrangeMike pointed out the VoteSmart/Follow the Money/their legislative websites are useful. However, the Wisconsin Historical Society is very useful-for if the members of the present Wisconsin Legislature leave office for any reason these websites will be inoperable but the citations from the historical society would remain. I am not into political science/politics to do this. I am more into the history of past members who help founded communities in Wisconsin and ended up in the legislature. Thanks-RFD (talk) 12:52, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
- Am I correct in my interpretation of Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Politicians that state legislators are notable by default? PDCook (talk) 14:05, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
- The notable section includes first level sub national divisions and that includes state legislator. So yes state legislators are included. I have been starting many articles about state legislators and no one said anything. I also been doing articles about Roman Catholic diocesan bishops-they are notable and no one said anything. BaronLarf started an article about the 99th Wisconsin Legislature session and I just got with correcting redlinks-RFD (talk) 14:15, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, good idea. I'll start working on creating articles for the 99th legislature in the coming weeks. And as for more Democrats than Republicans having articles: I think I recall there is a intern for Herb Kohl who is involved in local Democratic politics creating those articles. --BaronLarf 05:19, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- Just want to re-affirm that state legislators are ex officio notable. As to the party balance: it's also a matter of interest and involvement by editors. One of my unfinished projects, for example, is to create at least a stub for every Social Democratic and Socialist Wisconsin legislator. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:50, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, good idea. I'll start working on creating articles for the 99th legislature in the coming weeks. And as for more Democrats than Republicans having articles: I think I recall there is a intern for Herb Kohl who is involved in local Democratic politics creating those articles. --BaronLarf 05:19, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- I have been working on the 99th Wisconsin State Legislature. I am wondering why someone did most of the Democratic members of the legislature and did not do the Republicans. The present Wisconsin Senate is done. Anyone else who want to do articles of members of the present Wisconsin Legislature-please feel free to do so. Thanks-RFD (talk) 22:42, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Wisconsin Olympians
If anyone is interested in writing and improving articles on Olympians from Wisconsin, here are a couple of helpful links to information:
- Athletes from Milwaukee, NBC
- Athletes from Wisconsin, NBC
- Athletes from Madison, NBC
- Wisconsin Olympians, Capital Times
- Athletes from Wisconsin, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel --BaronLarf 03:39, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- List: Shani Davis, speedskating; Alyson Dudek, speedskating; Meghan Duggan, hockey; Molly Engstrom, hockey; Tucker Fredricks, speedskating; Brian Hansen, speedskating; Dany Heatley, hockey (Canada); Nicole Joraanstad, curling; Phil Kessel, hockey; Hilary Knight, hockey; Jonathan Kuck, speedskating; Maria Lamb, speedskating; Erika Lawler, hockey; Carla MacLeod, hockey (Canada); Trevor Marsicano, speedskating; Debbie McCormick, curling; Meaghan Mikkelson, hockey; Elli Ochowicz, speedskating; Joe Pavelski, hockey; Nick Pearson, hockey; Brian Rafalski, hockey; Catherine Raney-Norman, speedskating; Jilleanne Rookard, speedskating; Tracy Sachtjen, curling; Ryan Suter, hockey; Nancy Swider-Peltz, speedskating; Jessie Vetter, hockey; Kerry Weiland, hockey; Mitchell Whitmore, speedskating; Jinelle Zaugg-Siergiej, hockey --BaronLarf 04:43, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Unsourced BLPs
There has been a HUGE uproar lately about unsourced biographies of living persons. I urge EVERYONE to read the Signpost article because it's going to effect everyone. The short story is one admin became extremely bold and just started deleting sourced biographies before others stopped him/her. Jimbo supported this admin. The deletion stopped and there are proposals about how to deal with it. I expect our WikiProject to soon be handed a list of unsourced BLPs and for us to be told to deal with them immediately or else they will get deleted. Hopefully everyone will have a method to easily recover this information - if not let an admin like me, OrangeMike, Tomer or BaronLarf know. That's why everyone got or is getting their own list on their talk page to deal with. At least I hope there will be enough common sense to allow WikiProject to deal with the problems. So if you see an unsourced BLP that you care about, please be proactive and cite it with at least one reliable source. Let me know if you need help learning how to do it. I think you should do what's right and source the entire article - that's what I've been doing. I imagine we'll soon have to prioritize that upcoming list. I'm worried about overwhelming someone like myself who helps in many WikiProjects including numerous ones with extremely small membership. I really doubt that I'll be able to help much here. I'm going through articles about lesser know but winning NASCAR drivers right now. Royalbroil 03:50, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- Exciting! Hopefully this will be a kick in the butt for us to source articles, rather something which will end in good articles getting deleted. Is there any way that we can get a list of WP:WI articles that are unsourced? A way to find articles tagged with Template:BLP unsourced that have Template:WikiProject Wisconsin on their talk pages?--BaronLarf 04:16, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- Second that.--Epeefleche (talk) 15:36, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
- I've been going through the list of unrefBLPs for the past month or so and adding refs when I can. I'd be happy to concentrate on WI-related unrefBLP articles, if they were somehow identified. PDCook (talk) 15:39, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
- I wish I knew a way to identify them with a bot or something like that. Remember only biographies of living people are being looked at right now, so the articles on communities should be okay for now. I suppose Category:Wisconsin_stubs and its subcategories are a good starting place. How about we could start a list whenever someone comes across one! Royalbroil 01:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
- I have mixed feelings about this push to delete unsourced articles. While I appreciate the need for references, it's WP policy that non-controversial statements don't need sourcing. But I suppose that a BLP should have a greater need for proper sourcing than your average article. Unfortunately my watchlist has quite a few unsourced articles that I've written. I hoep I can find my source material. I've gotten better at sourcing than I used to be. Are there any resources that can help teach people how to do it? I'm worried that a lot of new editors will be driven away from WP over this. I hope veterans can offer help to these people. -Freekee (talk) 01:21, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
- Well requiring sources is here to stay. I suspect BLP is the first wave. You can read up at Wikipedia:When to cite and Wikipedia:Citing sources. But the real one to read is Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners with citation templates. Then article articles could be considered for Good or Featured Articles because using the citation templates is expected at that level. You might as well learn how to do it "right" in the first place. Here's the easiest way and the way that I do it: On the top of the editing box is a toolbar with a big bold B for using the bold function. You can add a button the right hand side of this bar that takes care of the common scenarios - all you have to do is paste the data into the fields. You add the button by editing your preferences. Click the "My Preferences" link in the uppper right. Then click the "Gadgets" tab on the right. Lastly you add a check mark by click on the box before "refTools, adds a "cite" button to the editing toolbar for quick and easy addition of commonly used citation templates." Let me know if you need clarification. Enjoy! Royalbroil 03:25, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Cleanup bot
I subscribed us to a bot that will list all articles that need cleanup. It's a start to address these unsourced BLPs. The list should soon be built at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wisconsin/Cleanup listing. Royalbroil 03:23, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
- Broken bot? :^( I sympathize. I still haven't even figured out how to get my talk page bot-archived. --BaronLarf 03:39, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:WikiProject Wisconsin/Unreferenced BLPs.--BaronLarf 02:13, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Bristol, Wisconsin, Kenosha County town and village Pikeville/Woodworth
Part of the Town of Bristol in Kenosha County incorporated itself as a village and is seeking to annex rest of the town and the village of Pleasant Prairie also in the county opposing this. Okay the town of Bristol has 2 unincorporated communities Pikeville and Woodworth. When fate of the town of Bristol is decided Pikeville&Woodworth will probably be incorporated in one of the villages and then the articles about Pikeville and Woodworth will be part of one of the village's articles. Has anyone heard how this is going? Thanks-RFD (talk) 14:36, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Also in the town of Bristol, is the unincorporated community of Mud Lake, Wisconsin. Mud Lake is an important archeological site. However, the article about Mud Lake is not started. The Village of Pleasant Prairie has some important archeological sites. Thanks again-RFD (talk) 14:49, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- I started the Bristol, Wisconsin article in January to deal with the new village. There is an agreement between the old Town of Bristol, the village of Pleasant Prairie, and the city of Kenosha regarding how much of the Town of Bristol that Kenosha and Pleasant Prairie can annex. From what I've read, it's up in the air whether these agreements apply to the new village. A referendum on the issue is being held up in court by Pleasant Prairie.[15] Pikeville and Woodworth are, at this point, still a part of the town. I'm planning on waiting until things have settled (due to WP:CRYSTAL) to write too much more on that subject. --BaronLarf 09:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- Pleasant Prairie's point of view: 1 (2/26/10), 2; Bristol's point of view: 1 (2/22/10). --BaronLarf 02:20, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
- I started the Bristol, Wisconsin article in January to deal with the new village. There is an agreement between the old Town of Bristol, the village of Pleasant Prairie, and the city of Kenosha regarding how much of the Town of Bristol that Kenosha and Pleasant Prairie can annex. From what I've read, it's up in the air whether these agreements apply to the new village. A referendum on the issue is being held up in court by Pleasant Prairie.[15] Pikeville and Woodworth are, at this point, still a part of the town. I'm planning on waiting until things have settled (due to WP:CRYSTAL) to write too much more on that subject. --BaronLarf 09:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Geneva Lake Historic Places
I have a line on a bunch of images taken on Geneva Lake in the Lake Geneva, Wisconsin area. I wonder if anyone knows or can look up if these images are historic places from the National Register of Historic Places listings in Walworth County, Wisconsin. I have uploaded a great image of the boat used for mail delivery for these people. I found out about the historic places while writing a new article on mail jumping which should appear soon - should be a DYK. The set of photos can be found here. Royalbroil 21:47, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Free use Milwaukee area photos on flickr
I see that Fox 6 television in Milwaukee WITI has uploaded a bunch of free use (Creative Commons Attribution 2.0) photos to their flickr account. They all could be uploaded to Wikipedia if we find them useful. You can find them here. I found the photostream when they invited one of my friend's photo to one of their groups. Royalbroil 04:13, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
This list is largely complete, but has bits and pieces of information missing, and needs images filled in - any help in completing it would be much appreciated. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:26, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Hmong Wikipedia proposal
I'm trying to see if a Hmong Wikipedia could be started. Some Hmong settled in Wisconsin, so this topic may be of interest to this Wikiproject.
The proposal is at:
- meta:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Hmong
- A list of possible starter articles is at meta:User:WhisperToMe/ArticlestostartHmongWikipediawith
WhisperToMe (talk) 07:36, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Category:Members of the Wisconsin Territorial Legislature
I started a category: Members of the Wisconsin Territorial Legislature. You look at an article for some politician who served in the Wisconsin Territorial Legislature and there was category. I also started categories in several states that had territorial legislatures. Thank you-RFD (talk) 13:28, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Thrivent Financial for Lutherans external links
A new SPA editor who appears to understand the "key projects" in the evolution of the company has added a series of external links about the company. I have removed them but they have returned. Please review the situation - as I'm not interested to edit war - I'd rather let consensus decide. I think it's time for a minor warning like {{uw-advert1}} . Royalbroil 04:12, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Green Bay (Lake Michigan) wording
There were a bunch of articles calling it the Bay of Green Bay which is what it is called locally to differentiate it from the City of Green Bay. In 2006, there was a discussion about what to name the article and it received its current name from its consensus. There's a discussion happening right now on its talk page and we're searching for a clean way to make it clear that rivers that flow into it are flowing into the bay not the city. I'd like the input of more than 2 minds because I'm not satisfied with any of the wording proposed so far. The wording is moving in the right direction. Please join the discussion at Talk:Green Bay (Lake Michigan)#In-article usage discussion (2011). Royalbroil 02:36, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Yet another discussion about naming towns
There's another discussion about naming a Wisconsin town at Talk:Eureka, Wisconsin. There's an incorporated community in Winnebago County and a town in Polk County. Please give your comments there. Royalbroil 05:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Clarification - unincorporated community, a census-designated place, in Winnebago County and a town in Polk County Eurekanative (talk) 21:10, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the correction, it was a typo. Royalbroil 05:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- We need to have some guidelines about naming Wisconsin towns. According to the Wisconsin Constitution Artcle IV section 23 and Article XI section 3, towns in Wisconsin are a constitutional entity. The town of Eureka in Polk County would be such an entity. The unincorporated community of Eureka, Wisconsin in Winnebago County is located in the town of Rushford. The proper title should be Eureka, Polk County, Wisconsin. One has to take into account if there are anymore unincorporated communities named Eureka existing in Wisconsin. Give the constitutional basis of the Wisconsin town-the naming of Wisconsin towns should been given precedent over unincorporated communities unless they vote to incorporated themselves as a village or city or vote themselves a town with that same name. Thank you=RFD (talk) 12:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree about towns taking precedent over unincorporated communities. When someone is talking, or searching the internet for a location (like checking for weather forecast), a community of any type is usually what they are looking for. Someone in Eureka, Winnebago County won't search for the weather at Rushford, they would search for the weather for Eureka. On the other hand, when someone in the town of Rushford is searching for weather, they would never select the town. They would select a nearby community like Eureka, Omro, Ripon, Berlin, or most likely Oshkosh. If you change this discussion to the communities in the North Woods of Wisconsin like the unincorporated community of Spread Eagle, the point becomes a lot more relevant. Royalbroil 17:26, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- I live in the unincorporated "area" called Lakefield, in the town of Grafton. It's just a neighborhood, really, with a recognised historical name. Nobody ever says, "I live in Lakefield". We don't identify ourselves as a community. So if there was an actual town called Lakefield, somewhere else in the state, I would expect it to take naming precedence. However, I think there are unincorporated settlements that are really identified by their names. If that's true, and these unincorporated places are real, self-contained communities with a strong sense of identity, how do you make a blanket statement? -Freekee (talk) 19:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree about towns taking precedent over unincorporated communities. When someone is talking, or searching the internet for a location (like checking for weather forecast), a community of any type is usually what they are looking for. Someone in Eureka, Winnebago County won't search for the weather at Rushford, they would search for the weather for Eureka. On the other hand, when someone in the town of Rushford is searching for weather, they would never select the town. They would select a nearby community like Eureka, Omro, Ripon, Berlin, or most likely Oshkosh. If you change this discussion to the communities in the North Woods of Wisconsin like the unincorporated community of Spread Eagle, the point becomes a lot more relevant. Royalbroil 17:26, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Redefining a territory thru over editing and misunderstanding ------ Wisconsin is a complicated place. When we talk about "place", we are discussing a territory, a geographic location, the land. The land is surveyed and divided into sections. That sets its boundries. In Wisconsin, those "places", the lands, are counties, townships, cities, villages, and unincorporated communities. They are nested inside each other but each is a territory and specific location within the state. You can find it on the surface of the earth. Each of these territories has a formal title. http://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/vitalrecords/pdf/cvtlist.pdf is the list of townships, cities, villages, and unincorporated communities. (Don't be fooled by the heading, "If unincorporated, name of town or village". That refers to the government responsible for keeping the statistics.)
- Wisconsin also has "towns", however the terms "town" refers to the body of the people, its government and citizens that live within the boundries of the township. The Wisconsin statute states, "A town is a body corporate and politic, with those powers granted by the law." The government of the town has an official name, "Town of ...." The Town of Neenah is a corporate business that administers the city. They are 2 completely different things but coexist.
- Some articles are further propagating this general misunderstanding. The article is about the "place", the township. The first line of many articles say, LocationName is a "town" in This County, Wisconsin. When it should accurately say, LocationName is a township in This County, Wisconsin. The article can add that it is governed by the Town of LocationName or add an entire section about the government of LocationName Township but it is inaccurate to say it is a "town".
- One is not more important than the other. One is not secondary to the other. It is distinct and separate. It's Title identifies and defines it and is the disambiguation.
- The formal Title of the territory is "Wisconsin".
- The formal Title of the territory is "Winnebago County".
- The formal Title of the territory is "Neenah Township".
- The formal Title of the territory is "Neenah".
- The formal Title of the territory is "Eureka".
- When there are multiple townships in the state with the same name, they are disambiguated with the county name in the article title to further identify its location.
In the case of Eureka, Wisconsin. There are 2 territories in question. One is Eureka, Wisconsin the unincorporated community in Winnebago County. The other, Eureka Township in Polk County. Eureka's article was titled "Eureka, Wisconsin" but populated with data from Eureka Township, Polk County because of the naming convention and different counties. A total inaccurate representation of Eureka, Wisconsin. It is not an editor's discretion to rename a territory. If it were, we could take River off Fox River. Dells off Wisconsin Dells. These are not nicknames or alternate titles.
- I read thru the archives on this subject because I wanted to have a full understanding of why there is no naming consensus. There is clearly a misunderstanding of the difference between "place" and "body of government". I also saw comments about giving the unincorporated community "a less desirable name" and it being "a mere grouping of homes".
What is the solution? Use the formal title of the territory in the article title. Keep government and personal characterizations out of the equation. Those are biases that are causing inaccuracies. It isn't a question of you're right, I'm wrong. It isn't a matter of claim to the name. It is accuracy. These are the names given to them by the people. It is not up to an online encyclopedia to rename them.
- Eureka, Wisconsin
- Eureka Township, Wisconsin
Townships are subdivisions of counties. If there are multiple townships in different counties, only the townships require disambiguation.
- Eureka, Wisconsin
- Eureka Township, Polk County, Wisconsin
- Eureka Township, Other County, Wisconsin
Eurekanative (talk) 05:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- You are wrong. The "formal name" of a constitutionally-organized city, village or town in Wisconsin is Name, Wisconsin; by Wikipedia standards, an article about a unique city, village or town of Name is called Name, Wisconsin. When there are both a City (or Village) of Name and a Town of Name, we distinguish by saying Name, Wisconsin for the city or village, and Name (town), Wisconsin for the town. We do NOT use Name Township, Wisconsin anywhere. If there is more than one of the same name, we distinguish by county and then (if necessary for disambiguation) by level of existence (City>Village>Town>community). --Orange Mike | Talk 15:37, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Understanding "towns" and their names...
As stated, a "town" in Wisconsin refers to the people and government. A "town" is not a place. You will see and hear them as "Town of .....". A "town" is comprised of rural and lower density populations geographically located in the townships and unincorporated communities. The people of these territories needed a way to administer, set up policing, fire control, create laws, and just make decisions as a group. So they created a "town", a company. That company has an official name, "Town of .....". It is corporate and politic, with those powers granted by law. In the case of the territories of Eureka, Wisconsin and Rushford Township, those people combined and formed the "Town of Rushford". That is it's corporate name. So what do you have for titles, when you look at the whole picture, town and land:
- Eureka, Wisconsin (territory)
- Rushford Township, Wisconsin (territory)
- Town of Rushford, Wisconsin (people of Eureka and Rushford Township)
- Eureka Township, Wisconsin (territory)
- Town of Eureka, Wisconsin (people of Eureka Township and their unincorporated territories)
If another community in another county are known as Town of Eureka, it looks like this:
- Eureka, Wisconsin (territory)
- Rushford Township, Wisconsin (territory)
- Town of Rushford, Wisconsin (people)
- Eureka Township, Polk County, Wisconsin (territory)
- Town of Eureka, Polk County, Wisconsin (people)
- Eureka Township, Other County, Wisconsin (territory)
- Town of Eureka, Other County, Wisconsin (people)
- Editing the names by removing "Town of" and not including Township changes the definition of them. Eurekanative (talk) 16:12, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- This is an absurd system, and one we have never followed. Your "Town of Name"/"Name Township" system would be a total change in how we do things here, and one not supported by anything in law or demographics. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:40, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
OrangeMike... Then why include territories with no organized governments of their own in the Wikipedia at all? By the standard you state, that territory does not exist. Eurekanative (talk) 16:26, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- We don't write about "territories"; we write about a) places which exist as governments, and b) places which are not organized as governments but which have a recognized identity and have been written about in reliable sources which are verifiable. There is no article WP:Town of Madison, Wisconsin nor WP:Madison Township, Wisconsin; there IS an article Madison (town), Wisconsin. You can't just impose your new scheme on an existing framework and ersatz formalism. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:40, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- When names are the same and governments are different (town) or (village) is added, correct? The focus of the articles is government, correct? When naming articles about government populations that have the same name as none government populations, shouldn't the government population be recognized as such in its name to be consistent? Using Eureka as the example:
- Eureka, Wisconsin
- Eureka (town), Wisconsin
- One is government, one is not. Geography has nothing to do with it. The focus is government. The "town" exists as a government, shouldn't it be recognized as such. It has a class. Give it the status it deserves as a government. That removes the discrimination of trying to come up with a less desirable name for the non government population. Eurekanative (talk) 17:35, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- These articles are about places; we use a system to disambiguate places. You seem to be frantically grasping at straws in a futile effort to find an excuse to privilege your favorite Eureka above the more populous and actually incorporated one. The current set-up is fine; only you are having trouble with it. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:42, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- That is not the case at all. I'm using Eureka as an example in a discussion, in a effort to understand and clarify what the naming convention is for "place". I should have changed Eureka to something fictitious for clarity. I'm not the only person that doesn't understand the focus of government by Wikipedia. No one explained that geography was not a factor. "Place" has multiple meanings. Civil government as a "place" is not the first thing that comes to mind. I am well educated, well traveled and have lived in many locations in the US and Europe with the military and NATO. I understand governments. When I think of "place", it literally relates to geography. I would stand up and debate for any "place" not just my own. Eureka has been adjusted and I am grateful. It is fine as it is. Thank you for changing it. Thank you to everyone for discussing it with me. I "get it" now. Eurekanative (talk) 19:00, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- These articles are about places; we use a system to disambiguate places. You seem to be frantically grasping at straws in a futile effort to find an excuse to privilege your favorite Eureka above the more populous and actually incorporated one. The current set-up is fine; only you are having trouble with it. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:42, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Orange Mike, regarding your statement, You can't just impose your new scheme on an existing framework and ersatz formalism, is Eurekanative renaming articles? It appears he is here trying to convince us to change our existing framework. That is certainly allowed. Simply editing counter to consensus is not a good thing. -Freekee (talk) 03:29, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Eurekanative, I don't understand your point in distinguishing the corporate body of a town from the territorial contents of a town, for our purposes. -Freekee (talk) 03:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Category:Wisconsin Territory judges
I started a category for the members of the Wisconsin Terrorial Supreme Court. The category for the 4 members of the territorial court by listing them as associate justices and in one case Charles Dunn as CJ of the court was not accurate; the Wisconsin Supreme Court was not operable until 1848 when Wisconsin was admitted to the Union. Thank you-RFD (talk) 17:12, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
1800s Wisconsin survey notes / town articles
I was delighted to find a couple weeks back that images of the notebooks from the 1830-1860 survey of Wisconsin are available online! If you're not aware, the U.S. government had surveyors walk through most of the state in those years, marking every section corner and making brief notes on what they saw, including tree species, stream depths, and improvements by man. (For more info on the survey, see the start of this article from Wisconsin Natural Resources Magazine or this article from the Historical Society.) The Board of Commissioners of Public Lands and the UW-Madison Libraries have put the images online here, and from their Search link, you can get a glimpse of what the surveyors saw when they walked near your home 150 years ago. For much of Wisconsin, that's before the land was logged - long before I thought there were written records. And it covers places off the beaten path, where I can't find references for the past ten years, much less the 1800s. That brings me to Wikipedia.
Wikipedia has many stub articles on Wisconsin towns which contain census data and little else. Most of our rural "towns" are the same 6 by 6 mile squares as the townships of the 1800s survey. For each of those townships, the surveyor wrote a brief general description of what he saw. This description can make a nice start for a History section in an article on the town. Here are a few examples:
- McKinley, Taylor County, Wisconsin (References 3, 4 & 5 at the bottom are links to the source notes.)
- Arpin (town), Wisconsin
If you enjoy this sort of thing, I'd suggest transcribing the general descriptions for your own favorite towns into the Wikipedia articles. It's good for readers to see that there is written history specific to their little place. By linking from Wikipedia to the images, we can lure interested readers to the original notes to learn more. By transcribing excerpts from some of the notes, we can help those who can't decipher faint hand-writing, and we can start a history article off with the voice of someone from long ago. Jeff the quiet (talk) 02:15, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Adding phone area codes to communities
I think it's time for us to develop the infobox on Wisconsin communities to add the area code and I have made some work on it in my sandbox. I want to do a bot request to have it added. I have used this in many other states and it's extremely helpful. All but 13 of the 72 counties have a single area code and they have been divided out - pulled to the bottom. The question is how do we separate out the rest of the counties. It seems like we should just sort by the cities and villages - meaning skip the unincorporated communities and towns since there probably are some towns with two area codes. Since 920 is getting a layover area code in 2014, should we should do both right now to save work later? Does anyhow have a source to divide out the remaining counties? Feel free to edit as needed. Royalbroil 19:21, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Stub sorting for Wisconsin geo stub
The stub sorting people haven't consulted WikiProject Wisconsin and they decided to create stub categories for Wisconsin - divided by counties. Now they want to subdivide the counties by region in the state using some planning list from the governor. You can add to the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2012/February#Split of Category:Wisconsin geography stubs. Royalbroil 05:12, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Wisconsin Blue Book 1872
The 1872 Wisconsin Blue Book has lists of members of the Wisconsin Territorial Legislature and the two Wisconsin Constitutional Conventions. Thank you-RFD (talk) 16:25, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Article to create
— Cirt (talk) 19:15, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Seal of the United States District Court for the Western District of Wisconsin
Can we please get a picture of the United States District Court for the Western District of Wisconsin, like we have for commons:Category:Seals of the United States district courts ?? I wasn't able to find one, can someone help me with this?? Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 03:18, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Jim Packard dead at 70
I've added a little to the Jim Packard (radio host) article to note his passing yesterday (referenced to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel). Help in updating his page would be greatly appreciated. Slambo (Speak) 17:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
- I've made small updates to both the Whad'Ya Know? and Michael Feldman articles to reflect this, but more help on both of those articles would be appreciated too. Slambo (Speak) 17:50, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Every County in Wisconsin has a nation Register of Historic Places (NRHP) list. Unfortunately, for many counties, very few places on these lists have articles. I encourage members of WikiProject Wisconsin to try to make these articles. I know that this also falls under WikiProject National Register of Historic Places' "authority", but, it also has to do with Wisconsin history so we should try to help if we can.(Loopygrumpkins (talk) 21:38, 26 October 2009 (UTC))
- I would be happy to take care of the Marathon County list when I am there during December. I may also be able to provide research on sites in nearby counties, operating under the assumption that historical societies and other local sources will be the only place to get any real information about most of these sites. (For everyone's benefit, the list of all NRHP listings in Wisconsin is here --Danger (talk) 06:00, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm busy trying to photograph these places as I travel around the state, and I encourage everyone to help me. I've photographed hundreds of listings already. I did Sheboygan, Oshkosh, Manitowoc, and many other major cities in eastern Wisconsin. I was helped by Dspradau for Fond du Lac. I'm planning to do the Appleton area on the day after Thanksgiving with a friend from the area. I do occasionally create articles for Wisconsin historic sites, but I have WAY too many ideas compared to the time that I have available. Many of the articles were created for historic sites that have become museums. Royalbroil 21:46, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- Do what you can, as always...eventually someone will come along and expand on it...if Wikipedia still works... ;-) Tomertalk 23:05, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- I'm busy trying to photograph these places as I travel around the state, and I encourage everyone to help me. I've photographed hundreds of listings already. I did Sheboygan, Oshkosh, Manitowoc, and many other major cities in eastern Wisconsin. I was helped by Dspradau for Fond du Lac. I'm planning to do the Appleton area on the day after Thanksgiving with a friend from the area. I do occasionally create articles for Wisconsin historic sites, but I have WAY too many ideas compared to the time that I have available. Many of the articles were created for historic sites that have become museums. Royalbroil 21:46, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- I've been involved in more photographic pursuits lately, and will continue to add photos (I just uploaded four more pics for the Milwaukee County list). I keep a particular eye on my local county NRHP pages. I do often gather information on the sites I shoot, but the writing comes slowly. I'll try to keep it in mind, though. -Freekee (talk) 06:36, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- I recently created short starter articles for a number of Wisconsin round barns listed together in List of round barns. Also I am creating starter articles for NRHP-listed places designed by Wisconsin architect Herbert W. Tullgren or built by Wisconsin builders Anton and Ulrich Walser. I'm not local though. Help from others in finding photos or otherwise developing these would be welcomed by me. Keep up the good work here, folks! --doncram 13:21, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Ken Hendricks and Diane Hendricks
Hello. I just added referenced information about Diane Hendricks, the wealthiest woman in Wisconsin and a political donor, widow of Ken Hendricks. Should this be split into two separate pages?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:46, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
- I multiple independent reliable sources, so I think that she should have her own article. Royalbroil 12:28, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
- I agree Diane Hendricks should have her own article. I do not like the idea of merging articles about spouses especially if they are notable in their own right. Thank you-RFD (talk) 12:42, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
- I just created it: Diane Hendricks. Please feel free to expand it. We need a birth date and where she went to college, etc. Also, is she active in the presidential elections? Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 14:06, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
History of Wisconsin is in Need of Expanding
The size of of this page is shameful in comparison to the size of history pages for other states. There are huge chucks of information missing, one of them being the history Wisconsin from about AD 1900 to the present. I think it should one of the projects top priorities and that something should be said about it on the WikiProject Wisconsin homepage.(Loopygrumpkins (talk) 21:38, 26 October 2009 (UTC))
- Agreed.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:06, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Wisconsin could use more historical content beyond that of 1900. For example, Wisconsin's contribution to the Dillinger Days. More specifically, the Little Bohemia Lodge should at least be spoken on, due to it being a highly notable failed attempt at the FBI capture of John Dillinger in the 1930s. Jekuhn1 (talk) 21:20, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Jim Moody, former Milwaukee Congressman
This WP:BLP article needs more references. Some now-reverted promotional-tone edits may have some useful information that can be incorporated into the article, but only if they can be reliably sourced. See Talk:Jim Moody for more. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 03:00, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Wispolitics.com flickr images
I see that wispolitics.com has a flickr photostream and everything that I checked had a free use license. I added one of their images of Mary Burke. Does anyone else who knows more about politics want to check through the photos and copy some to Commons for using here on the English Wikipedia? Lots of images don't have the person listed or just lists their last name. Royalbroil 02:53, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Expert attention
This is a notice about Category:Wisconsin articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 22:25, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Suspicious County Seals
I noticed a bunch of County seals are being added to WI and IL counties by two SPA's. For Example, Langlade County, Wisconsin, File:Seal of Langlade County Wisconsin.svg. Their similarity and duplication of state seals makes me wonder if they are legitimate. See the seals for Illinois [16] and Wisconsin [17]. Does anyone know if these are legitimate, vandalism or otherwise? --Dual Freq (talk) 22:09, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
- I removed the seals added for WI counties on Dec 28th since they appear to be self made and I can not find evidence that they are official seals in actual use by the counties in question. I appreciate the creativity, but I don't think wikipedia should be presenting these as official county seals when there is no cited evidence of this. --Dual Freq (talk) 03:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
- Is there a reason to delete the files at Commons? I'm an admin there. Royalbroil 02:16, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- They made hundreds for several states, WI, IL, NY, IN, MI and NJ to name a few I've seen. I posted a question to c:Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#User-Made_US_County_Seals, but no one responded. I would think that at a minimum the images should clearly say they are the someone's own work and that they are derivatives of the state seal. Maybe there is some commons bot that can add that to the image descriptions. --Dual Freq (talk) 02:21, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- Is there a reason to delete the files at Commons? I'm an admin there. Royalbroil 02:16, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
If you knew anything about state seals, you would know that a great many are just what you call "derivatives of the state seal." Go do some research instead of unproductive vandalism. --Mr. Joshua Lyman (talk) 09:09, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
- You need to provide a source for each seal and citations that shows that these are real seals. If you are copying these out of a book, then cite it. --Dual Freq (talk) 14:30, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
The reason they are suspicious is some do not match seals found elsewhere. File:Seal of Eau Claire County Wisconsin.svg differs from the one they use on their documents: http://www.co.eau-claire.wi.us/home/showdocument?id=4024 Also some of your other seals do not match as well, File:Seal of Cape May County New Jersey.svg http://www.capemaycountygov.net/index.cfm --Dual Freq (talk) 14:46, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
- the seal at http://www.racineco.com/ does not match File:Seal of Racine County Wisconsin.svg either, this is why I consider them all suspicious. --Dual Freq (talk) 14:57, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
There is a deletion discussion at Commons which is found here. Royalbroil 05:40, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
I've added more of these suspicious seals at c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Pittsburgh Sealer. The Sealer and Mr. Lyman accounts were created the same day and their uploads are only these suspicious county seals that all come from the state seal. --Dual Freq (talk) 23:05, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
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Help with (Wisconsin political figure) Reince Priebus
Hi all, I'm looking for help on the article for Wisconsinite Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus. An editor over at WikiProject Biography's politics and government work group suggested that editors here might be able to help.
Briefly, the article needs some updating to add detail about his career prior to becoming chair of the RNC, and to cover details of his tenure as chair. One key example: there's currently no mention of his previous role as chairman of the Wisconsin Republican Party in the article.
On the article's Talk page, I've proposed some initial updates and corrections. While some have been made in the article, editors who assisted have not returned to look at the suggestions for the Career section. To be fully transparent, I should disclose that I'm working as a consultant to the RNC and due to that financial conflict of interest won't make any direct edits to the article. Instead, I'm proposing these updates for editors to review and make changes as appropriate. Can anyone from this WikiProject assist? Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 19:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- Pinging here to see if anyone can help. Although the details about his previous political roles have now been added, there are a few remaining edits I'm asking about for the Career section of the article and I've just offered some new suggestions for the RNC chairman section. Thanks in advance to anyone who takes a look. 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 22:17, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Wind power in Wisconsin
Wind power in Wisconsin is a new article which could use expansion. Djflem (talk) 08:23, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
Suggestion
Hello all! I was curious if anyone else thought it might be a good idea to make a (nonbinding) guideline on how all the individual US state WikiProjects should organize themselves, to help standardize them. I originally put this suggestion in the WikiProject United States talk page, so feel free to look there if you're interested. It's pretty empty though; basically all they said was to see what each of the individual projects thought about it. Please tell me if you have any concerns with this idea; hopefully we can find a way for everyone to love it! Also, I'm new at making proposals, so please forgive me if I do anything silly. :) Hope that you like this idea! JonathanHopeThisIsUnique (talk) 04:58, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Alternate language names for cities
An IP anon is adding alternative names for cities to a number of Wisconsin settlements, for example: [18] (Hoocąk: Teejóp from Physical Spatial Place. (2010, June 1). Hocąk Teaching Materials Volume 1, p. 455.) Is this something that the project needs or wants in city articles? Since the source is not available for verification, I don't know if these words are just translations that were created after the settlement was founded or if they are historical location names from before the area was settled by Europeans. I don't think we need to list alternative names for cities, unless the city's name is based on some other language, etc, ie. History of Milwaukee. I know that the French language creates new french words instead of using the english word for new inventions, etc. I think this is the same sort of thing, with no historical basis. --Dual Freq (talk) 23:37, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, it has no business being in the lede (given that the rest of the article has nothing to do with it: MOS:FORLANG), especially without discussion first. – czar 23:54, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
I guess they are taking up the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline#Native name added to lead sections. --Dual Freq (talk) 00:05, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
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Announcing an upcoming edit-a-thon:
- Saturday, March 5th, 9:30 a.m. – noon
- Madison Public Library (Madison, Wisconsin)
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Meetup
Five years ago, there was some discussion of a meetup in Wisconsin, but I don't think it ever happened. Would people be interested in having one later this year, perhaps near the Dells? Jonathunder (talk) 20:38, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
- We've had a few meetups in Madison recently (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wisconsin/Archive 5) but none widely advertised czar 05:28, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Wisconsin Historical Society
Has anyone ever looked into donating images to the Wisconsin Historical Society? What's the process like? Royalbroil 14:26, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
- Donating your images to WHS, or getting images from WHS for WP? czar 17:35, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
- Donate to the WHS. Many of their images are not free / PD. I have literally thousands of images that have been uploaded to Wikipedia / Commons over the past decade which would probably be very interesting to them. They come from all over the state. And they are just a tiny fraction of what I've taken overall. My collection of images taken at Wisconsin race tracks is staggering. Royalbroil 02:06, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
coloma
Can somebody fix the Coloma, Wi page. Someone messed with it and while funny, it is historically inaccurate....hopefully. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.87.20.2 (talk) 14:55, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi all! As some of you may know, I have been working for a while on restarting the Green Bay Packers WikiProject, a relative of this project. After doing a lot of administrative work, such as cleaning up and reorganizing the project's main page and tagging and assessing all Green Bay Packers-related articles, I think the project is ready for some collaborative work. Over the next few days I will be contacting specific users who were on the project's old member list or who regularly edit Packers articles to see if they are interested in becoming an active member. I wanted to leave a note here to let anyone know who is interested that they can come check out the project and add their username to the active member list. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:00, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Greenwood Peace Memorial
Is anyone near Greenwood? We could do with a picture or pictures of the Peace Memorial there, for Ernest Durig's bio, please. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:44, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
Titles of Wisconsin town articles
A couple of editors have been making wholesale changes to the titles of Wisconsin town articles. (See [19] and [20].) I've asked them to discuss the matter on this talk page, but they're not interested. Could someone please have a look at what they're doing? It really needs some oversight. 32.218.38.203 (talk) 02:16, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- @32.218.38.203: I'm not on any campaign to do any such thing. I created a few redirects so that U.S. Route 8 and U.S. Route 141 would continue to link to the intended locations, albeit through a redirect. {{WIint}} uses a parameter called
|town=
to link to a town in WI that's displayed in the location column of the junction list table. When we specify|town=Pembine
, it automatically links to[[Pembine (town), Wisconsin|Town of Pembine]]
, and I created the redirect so that readers would still get to "Pembine, Wisconsin". When we specify|town=Beaver
and|ctdab=Marinette
, it links to[[Beaver (town), Marinette County, Wisconsin|Town of Beaver]]
. Again, if I didn't create the appropriate redirect, there would be a redlink in the article's junction list table after I switched the template to use the appropriate parameters. - This is all I did, and nothing more. There is no campaign to change article titles, just a few cheap redirects to ensure that an article continues to link to the intended locations after a template change. Imzadi 1979 → 02:24, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- I don't see any problem with creating those redirects; they're useful for a specific purpose and they're not inaccurate. I wouldn't move any of the town pages to those titles, but that's not what's being done here. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 02:37, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- It's been stated over and over and over again that we're only creating redirects. This IP is just forum shopping. –Fredddie™ 03:07, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- The Administrative divisions of Wisconsin article explains the local government in Wisconsin. That is essential reading. Also in the Wisconsin Constitution Article IV section 23: "town government" is used and is the legal and constitutional usage not township which is use in other states. Thank you-RFD (talk) 10:49, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- @RFD: no one has mentioned "township" in regards to this, except to note that a "town" in WI is essentially the same as a "township" in Michigan or Minnesota. In fact, if everyone would please read the volume of comments we've made to the IP above, we are only creating redirects, and only so that the links output by a template continue to hit the intended target. Nothing more, and nothing less. We are NOT changing article titles. Imzadi 1979 → 15:56, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- Redirects are helpful and cheap so I don't see the problem with creating them. RFD is right about them being referred to as towns not townships. They are similar to townships in other states. It was a real mess figuring out how to create consistent title names for locations when you consider that the same name was used for towns, villages, cities in different counties. There's even a town and unincorporated community with the same name as its county! I'm impressed to see that debaters actually understood this point throughout the discussion. There have been many challenges to articles titles over the years from people who didn't understand location naming in Wisconsin. Royalbroil 12:06, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- @RFD: no one has mentioned "township" in regards to this, except to note that a "town" in WI is essentially the same as a "township" in Michigan or Minnesota. In fact, if everyone would please read the volume of comments we've made to the IP above, we are only creating redirects, and only so that the links output by a template continue to hit the intended target. Nothing more, and nothing less. We are NOT changing article titles. Imzadi 1979 → 15:56, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- I don't see any problem with creating those redirects; they're useful for a specific purpose and they're not inaccurate. I wouldn't move any of the town pages to those titles, but that's not what's being done here. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 02:37, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
US 50,000 Challenge invite
Hi. The Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/The 50,000 Challenge has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more states than they might otherwise work on. If there's the interest I will start 1000 State Challenges like Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of states regularly contributing. If you would like to see masses of articles being improved for the US and your specialist/home state like Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon, sign up today and once the challenge starts a contest can be organized. This is a way we can target every state, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant and also sign under any state sub challenge on the page that you might contribute to! Thankyou.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:38, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Auto-assessment of article classes
Following a recent discussion at WP:VPR, there is consensus for an opt-in bot task that automatically assesses the class of articles based on classes listed for other project templates on the same page. In other words, if WikiProject A has evaluated an article to be C-class and WikiProject B hasn't evaluated the article at all, such a bot task would automatically evaluate the article as C-class for WikiProject B.
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- I'm game for this -- it would save work for somebody. -- Dolotta (talk) 22:24, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
- @BU Rob13: does the auto-assessment bot also handle importances? I know importances are subjective, but you could also assume that if an article is so old and has never been assessed by the project, it's probably low-importance. –Fredddie™ 21:19, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Fredddie -- My understanding, reading the documentation, is that it does not. Correct me if I'm wrong. Dolotta (talk) 03:29, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- @BU Rob13: does the auto-assessment bot also handle importances? I know importances are subjective, but you could also assume that if an article is so old and has never been assessed by the project, it's probably low-importance. –Fredddie™ 21:19, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable to me. Of course lots of articles have very old assessments but it's better than no assessment. Royalbroil 04:09, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- If it is fine with all involved, I will go ahead and put WP:WISCONSIN on the list. Dolotta (talk) 02:26, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Dolotta: Just saw this - sorry, things have been hectic for me. The bot doesn't handle importances because many projects actually have an objective importance rating scheme which varies based on topic area. Not to mention that even subjective importances vary a lot by project. Green Bay Packers is obviously top for the Packers WikiProject but less than top for this one, for instance. ~ Rob13Talk 05:14, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages
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A couple of RMs
I'd be grateful is editors familiar with the subject area could weigh in on a couple of slightly tricky requested move discussions at Talk:Monroe, Green County, Wisconsin and Talk:Eden, Wisconsin. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 12:02, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Notice about adminship to participants at this project
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March Against Hate
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Project members are invited to participate in the AfD discussion re: Portland Women March Against Hate. I've expressed an interest in moving the article to March Against Hate, and expanding its scope to cover more than just Portland. I welcome editors to either contribute to the ongoing discussion or help expand this article's section for other cities, including Stevens Point. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:18, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Upcoming "420 collaboration"
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It seems like these articles are about the same person and could be merged if the correct spelling can be found. --bp0 (talk) 10:26, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Popular pages report
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Could someone kindly help with this article? I am new and it's in process of being deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hsypark (talk • contribs) 21:08, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Semi-active wikiproject
Greetings, Today I added the WP Semi-active notice to the project page. If enough editors feel this is not warranted, then it is okay with me to remove the tag. Any discussion is welcome. Regards, — JoeHebda • (talk) 18:03, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- I know of several people, myself included, that are involved with the project. Dolotta (talk) 12:16, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
- I am also still involved with the WikiProject Wisconsin-thank you-RFD (talk) 12:20, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Expanding Regions of Wisconsin
I noticed Regions of Wisconsin only mentions one categorization schema, which inconveniently is not very easy to apply since it doesn't really line up with county borders. However, it seems like there are a lot of ways to categorize the regions of the state. Here are some links to a variety of different schema. Does anyone have any opinion if any of them make more sense for organizing Category:Wisconsin geography stubs?
- Wisconsin Dept of Tourism
- Wisconsin Taxpayer Alliance (from article on regional economic trends in WI)
- Wisconsin DOT
- Wisconsin Economic Development
- Wisconsin DNR
- Wisconsin DHS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Furicorn (talk • contribs) 00:33, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Furicorn: I agree the current categorization is poor, and I much prefer the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel version. JTP (talk • contribs) 02:59, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
- @NotTheFakeJTP: From an administrative viewpoint, I kind of liked the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources categorization since each region has a comparable number of counties. As someone who doesn't know much about Wisconsin, do you mind explaining to me the advantage of the Wisconsin Taxpayer Alliance schema (that is the one that appeared in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel)? -Furicorn (talk) 05:02, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Furicorn: After hearing your thoughts, I think the DNR version is much better. JTP (talk • contribs) 01:09, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- Also, does anyone know of a good source for a Free-licensed image of wisconsin with county divisions? -Furicorn (talk) 08:44, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
- I see User:Rcsprinter123 creates most of the highlighted county maps on Wikipedia. You may want to ask them. JTP (talk • contribs) 01:09, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- @NotTheFakeJTP: Thanks for pointing me to them, they were able to create these maps -Furicorn (talk) 20:55, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
- I see User:Rcsprinter123 creates most of the highlighted county maps on Wikipedia. You may want to ask them. JTP (talk • contribs) 01:09, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- @NotTheFakeJTP: From an administrative viewpoint, I kind of liked the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources categorization since each region has a comparable number of counties. As someone who doesn't know much about Wisconsin, do you mind explaining to me the advantage of the Wisconsin Taxpayer Alliance schema (that is the one that appeared in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel)? -Furicorn (talk) 05:02, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject
Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.
A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Wisconsin
Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.— Rod talk 20:02, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
IP disruption
An IP editor is being disruptive at Schofield/Rothschild shootings. Stop by the talk page and offer some thoughts on the page's notability. Etzedek24 (Would it kill ya to leave an edit summary?) 20:01, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
Wisconsin dairy barn
Wisconsin dairy barn is a new article. Could use more examples and especially pictures! The one used in article so far has trees obscuring much of the example barn, the model barn at University of Wisconsin. --Doncram (talk) 21:58, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
AFD on Saint Patrick's Church (Benton, Wisconsin)
Saint Patrick's Church (Benton, Wisconsin) looks kinda notable to me. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saint Patrick's Church (Benton, Wisconsin) is ongoing; comments welcome there. --Doncram (talk) 03:35, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
NRHP articles especially needing help
User:Jeff the quiet and I have been plugging along improving Wisconsin articles on National Register-listed places. There were 125 as of February 2017. Help wanted in improving these to remove negative tagging about references needing to be improved. (What shows is "This article lacks inline citations besides to NRIS, ...") The following are all that remain:
Burlington Downtown Historic District, developed a bit alreadyRickeman Grocery Building, developed a bit alreadyJulia B. and Fred P. Bowen House, developed recently by Jeff the quietCooksville Cheese Factory-Jeff the quiet (talk) 05:00, 16 March 2018 (UTC)- Turtleville Iron Bridge -developed some --Doncram (talk) 12:18, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
- Gust Brothers' Store -developed some --Doncram (talk) 12:18, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Lachmund Family House, 717 Water Street in Sauk City. I added a NRHP reference adequate to remove negative tag and just a factoid or two. More development would be good. --Doncram (talk) 02:19, 10 March 2018 (UTC)Walworth D. Porter Duplex ResidenceAdded enough to remove negative tag. --Doncram (talk) 03:35, 18 March 2018 (UTC)Marcus Sears Bell FarmAdded enough to remove negative tag. --Doncram (talk) 17:13, 19 March 2018 (UTC)- William J. Bernd House (Arch Avenue, New Richmond, Wisconsin) -developed some --Doncram (talk) 12:18, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
- William J. Bernd House (Second Street, New Richmond, Wisconsin) -developed some --Doncram (talk) 12:18, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
- William Dwelley House --NRHP document added. --Doncram (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Dr. Frank W. Epley Office --NRHP document added. --Doncram (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Herman L. Humphrey House --NRHP document added. --Doncram (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Lewis-Williams House --NRHP document added. --Doncram (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Samuel T. Merritt House --NRHP document added. --Doncram (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Joseph Mielke House - I added a bit. --Doncram (talk) 00:02, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
- New Richmond News Building --NRHP document added. --Doncram (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Erick J. Thompson HouseAdded enough to remove negative tag. --Doncram (talk) 17:13, 19 March 2018 (UTC)Capt. Alexander A. Arnold Farmimproved. Royalbroil- Coman House - I tried but found little. I think that my image is an improvement. Royalbroil --Indeed. I added a bit. --Doncram (talk) 00:02, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
- Tollef Jensen House - I tried but found little - Royalbroil --The NRHP document is available, if follow link on refnum from infobox. --Doncram (talk) 17:13, 19 March 2018 (UTC) - I added a bit. --Doncram (talk) 00:02, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
- Ridge Avenue Historic District (Galesville, Wisconsin) -i added a bit, before seeing another editor was offering to develop more.--Doncram (talk) 03:35, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
- Delavan Post Office -developed some --Doncram (talk) 12:18, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
- Halverson Log Cabin -developed some --Doncram (talk) 12:18, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
- Everett P. Barrett House --NRHP document added. --Doncram (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Pilgrim Family Farmstead --NRHP document added. --Doncram (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Usually the NRHP nomination document, or a Wisconsin Historical Society Inventory document, and photos, can be found by clicking on the NRHP reference number in an articles infobox. See improved referencing in other Wisconsin NRHP articles like St. Croix County Courthouse and Church of St. Thomas the Apostle (Beloit, Wisconsin). --Doncram (talk) 01:56, 10 March 2018 (UTC) P.S. Development of any of these could count at Wikipedia:The 50,000 Challenge, where some editors like to mention/share their accomplishments. --Doncram (talk) 02:32, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
- Please leave me a message if I photographed a listing and more images would be helpful. I generally take a dozen or more images of a listing and I kept all of the originals. I have a 3 terabyte backup drive and 2 tb hard drive to accommodate. I call the Ridge HD in Galesville since I photographed it. Royalbroil 13:28, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Doncram:, is there a category/method to find all of the NRHP-only sourced articles from Wisconsin? Royalbroil 01:51, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
- Sure, @Royalbroil:, two approaches:
- 1. wp:NRHPPROGRESSWI reports on numbers in each of Wisconsin's counties, is updated almost every day, allows you to zero in each specific county list-article of NRHPs having any "NRIS-only" items. Current total is 13, with 8 being in National Register of Historic Places listings in St. Croix County, Wisconsin. If you install a tool into your account and use Microsoft Edge rather than Chrome browser, following cursory instructions at wp:NRHPHELP#NRHP stats reading (plus perhaps more help to get it to work), you can see the yellow NRHP stats info and further get the list-article to selectively show just the NRIS-only ones.
- 2. Run wp:PETSCAN tool to find the intersection of Category:Articles sourced only to NRIS and Category:Wisconsin, i.e. click PetScan applied to this task, which currently yields 13 articles (when category depth set to 5). Several of these articles are not listed above. For example it finds SS William A. Irvin, not listed above. --Doncram (talk) 02:25, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
- I installed the yellow box via editing my vector skin several years ago. I wasn't aware of the other tool. Thanks Doncram! I know you took a lot of flack years ago for creating many stubs and I'm very pleased to see you following through. Kudos. Royalbroil 03:49, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Doncram:, is there a category/method to find all of the NRHP-only sourced articles from Wisconsin? Royalbroil 01:51, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, that is kind of you to say.
- Those others are:
- Cathedral Church of All Saints (Milwaukee) --NRHP document added. --Doncram (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Fort Laurens --> NOT IN WISCONSIN, in Ohio instead. (shows up maybe as Category:1778 establishments in the Northwest Territory might be within Wisconsin parent category.) --Doncram (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- SS William A. Irvin --NRHP document added. Complicated because photos were switched with an unrelated NRHP site in Minnesota. --Doncram (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Old St. Mary's Church (Milwaukee, Wisconsin) --NRHP document added. --Doncram (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- William Stolte Sr. House --NRHP document added. --Doncram (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- --Doncram (talk) 16:19, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, something has been done for each one now, though it may be minimal. NRIS-only tags removed for all Wisconsin NRHPs. Happy to talk about more substantial improvement.
- Please note that during the cleanup campaign over the last year and a half, it was User:Jeff the quiet who cleaned up the most articles (mostly within tracking at User:Doncram/Batch-ID-KY-ND-WI#Wisconsin). Thanks Jeff! --Doncram (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Don, you're welcome. Thanks for organizing this campaign and giving me a nudge. -Jeff the quiet (talk) 13:51, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you Jeff! You may be quiet, but your work on Wikipedia speaks for itself. Excellent article improvements and pictures are the norm. Royalbroil 13:03, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- Don, you're welcome. Thanks for organizing this campaign and giving me a nudge. -Jeff the quiet (talk) 13:51, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
NRHP infobox generator updated to include NRHP registration doc ref including photos
Hey, the NRHP infobox generator (http://elkman.net/nrhp/) has been updated by User:Elkman to cover more years of data (now through 2013 or 2014), and in other ways. Elkman may still be tinkering with this. However the best news IMO is that it now includes a written-out NRHP registration document reference including photos. E.g. for Henry Sherry House, it includes:
Optional reference text:<ref name="nrhpdoc">{{cite web|url={{NRHP url|id=99001607}}|title=National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Henry Sherry House |publisher=[[National Park Service]]|author= |date= |accessdate=April 9, 2018}} With {{NRHP url|id=99001607|photos=y|title=accompanying pictures}}</ref>
which displays as: [1]
References
- ^ "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Henry Sherry House". National Park Service. Retrieved April 9, 2018. With accompanying pictures
You just paste it into a new article along with the infobox, and you can customize it a bit more in further edits (e.g. you can add author and preparation date, you can describe the photos), but it is a lot quicker now. This should make it easier to create new Wisconsin NRHP articles and also to improve old ones! --Doncram (talk) 21:34, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- So has consensus changed at the NRHP wikiproject to remove the "Address Restricted" images on Great Lakes shipwrecks? Many counties, especially on Lake Michigan, have many shipwrecks which are not only unreachable without a boat/scuba gear but have no GPS coordinates. Royalbroil 03:00, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
New Wisconsin userbox templates
New Wisconsin userbox templates are now available at Template:User WP Wisconsin and Template:User WP United States. Let me know if you have any suggestions. Yours aye, Buaidh talk contribs 23:19, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
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Photo Request for Titletown District
I am working on expanding Titletown District and would love to have some photos of the new park and development. Does anyone live in the Green Bay region who would be willing to grab some photos next time they drive by? Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:41, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
New Article Possibility
Would anyone be up for creating an article on one Andrew Elmore? I book I have mentioned that he was a member of the Assembly around 1860 and it sounds like he had both Elmore, Wisconsin and Elmore Township, Faribault County, Minnesota named after him. -- Dolotta (talk) 05:40, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Updated pictures
Hey, I went to Forest Home Cemetery today and took pictures, I took the liberty up updating the old low resolution pictures from 2006 on Valentin Blatz, Joseph Schlitz and Byron Kilbourn with new ones. Pepsiwithcoke (talk) 23:27, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
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