Talk:History of the National Hockey League (1942–1967)
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GA Review
[edit]- This review is transcluded from Talk:History of the National Hockey League (1942–1967)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.
- Is it well written?
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Well done.
- B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
- In the Post-war period section, it would be best if "Stanley Cup" were linked once, per here. In the Detroit Red Wings section, I doubt that Gordie Howe "played" hockey with Massachusetts senator Ted Kennedy; the link might have to be fixed. In the Expansion section, it would be best if "Los Angeles", "San Francisco", and "St. Louis" were linked once.
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Fixed all. In the latter case, the double links to LA, SF and St.L pointed to different articles. I removed all of the city links from the first set for simplicty and to reduce confusion.
- Check. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 21:53, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
- Does Reference 7 cover all this ---> "At Dutton's request, he was replaced by Clarence Campbell. Campbell served as the NHL's third president from 1946 until his retirement in 1977. The stability Campbell offered as president was matched by that of the league itself. The NHL remained fixed at the same six teams for the first 21 years of his presidency, until the 1967 NHL Expansion"? Does Reference 20 cover all this ---> "The fans leaving the Forum were met by a mob of angry demonstrators outside. The mob grew to 10,000 people, overwhelming the 250 police officers on the scene, and rioted outside of the Forum. Order was not restored until 3 a.m. Seventy people were arrested, 37 people injured, 50 stores were looted and $100,000 in property damage was reported in the violence, which became known as l'affair Richard, or the Richard Riot"?
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- In both cases, yes. The Pincus book (The Illustrated History of the NHL) has several profiles of people and events. The two listed cites are to such profiles, of Clarence Campbell and the Richard Riot, respectively.
- Check. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 21:53, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- C. It contains no original research:
- D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
- C. It contains no original research:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- Is it neutral?
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- In the lead, this ---> "one of the greatest players of all time", sounds like POV.
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- Removed. That was added by another editor, and I understand what they were trying to do. I plan on expanding the descriptions of players such as Howe before trying for FA. This will address that editor's concern as well, I hope.
- I sorta got the feeling that that was the case, but it still needed to re-worded. Check. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 21:53, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Is it stable?
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- If the above statements can be answered, I will pass the article. Good luck with improving this article!
- Pass or Fail:
-- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 21:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Should be fixed. Thanks for the review! Resolute 21:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you to Resolute for getting the stuff I left at the talk page, because I have gone off and placed the article as GA. Congrats. ;) -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 21:53, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
FAC
[edit]I'm done with the copyedit, I think's it ready for FAC. Maxim (☎) 02:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks! It will be nominated in 3..2..1... Resolute 04:24, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Hockey Hall of Fame?
[edit]The Hockey Hall of Fame was formed during this era and since the NHL played a part in its founding, I was wondering if it should be mentioned. -- Scorpion0422 17:14, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'd say so. I was originally thinking of making mention, but obviously overlooked it. Resolute 00:29, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
- Added, incorporating text from Hockey Hall of Fame. Resolute 16:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
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Gordie Howe's number of seasons played
[edit]Seeing as this is an article about the history of the NHL. Why would we want to include Howe's WHA seasons of play? GoodDay (talk) 17:45, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Changed it to a more accurate statement, from seasons to years. GoodDay (talk) 19:45, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- Years is fair, but to your original point, you can't ignore the WHA's existence in a history of the NHL. It's very existence had a critical impact on the league, ramifications of which are still strongly felt. Resolute 21:18, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- The WHA was significant, indeed. It's just that the previous wording, made it appear as though Howe played 32 NHL seasons. GoodDay (talk) 21:37, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
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