Talk:Team Fortress 2
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Q1: I'm positive the Spy has a French/Spanish/British/Italian accent. Can I add that to the article?
A1: The accent for the Spy cannot be verified by reliable sources. Unless a reliable source (which does not include fan sites or other wikis) can be found to verify the accent, or it is confirmed in a primary source from Valve, do not add accents for this character. Due to the wide-range of suggested accents for the character, it is prudent not to include any accent. Q2: The Scout comes from Brooklyn/New York/New England. Can I add this to the article?
A2: According to the preamble on the page for "Meet the Scout", the Scout comes from "the south side of Boston". This reference is straight from Valve, and is used as an in-line citation in the prose. A3: Although this was previously subject to much debate and was previously rested on machete due to the game models being named machete and a lack of reliable sources pointing to kukri, the introduction of the character customisation screen into the game has confirmed that the sniper carries a kukri, not a machete. Q4: The Demoman's bottle contains scotch/scrumpy. Can I add this to the article?
A4: As there is evidence to the effect that the demoman's bottle is both scotch (from a variety of game textures of the bottle) and scrumpy (from a line spoken by the demoman) it is more prudent not to refer to the bottle's contents, unless a reliable source can be used to conclusively back the point up. Furthermore, the exact contents of the Demoman's bottle is likely a trivial detail to most readers. Q5: Why doesn't the article mention the fact that the Pyro is female?
A5: Since no reliable sources are available to verify the Pyro's gender, it is entirely speculation, and should not be included as per Wikipedia's policy No original research. If in the future Valve confirms that the Pyro is indeed female, then this should be altered. Q6: Can we include game-guide content?
A6: As Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information or a game guide, do not include any game guide style content, such as indepth information on weapons, multiplayer map lists, lists of achievements, lists of ranks, trivia, etc. Individual sections consisting of in-depth information on each class falls into this category. Q7: Can I add fan sites, clans or the TF2 Wiki to the external links?
A7: Because Wikipedia is not a repository for links, Wikipedia has certain restrictions on what should and should not be linked to in the External links section. According the relevant guideline, fansites and wikis are almost always to be avoided. |
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Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2024
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Change "Windows" to "PC" in references to versions of TF2. 2601:600:A480:F7A0:CC9C:8EC5:EEE0:C10C (talk) 13:14, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Not done since "Windows" and "PC" are not interchangable. IceWelder [✉] 14:32, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Team Fortress 2 no longer supporting MacOS, period
[edit]I found out that Steam has officially delisted Team Fortress 2 from their store yesterday for MacOS.
I tried putting it into the infobox but I could not make it work.
Can someone else add it for me please?
https://steamdb.info/changelist/23945028/
Thanks!
Urbanracer34 (talk) 16:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Urbanracer34 Infobox video game does not have a way to denote discontinuation of a platform. SteamDB is not a reliable source for Wikipedia, so we'd need to have a secondary reliable source (or a news post from Valve) in order to add it to the prose of the article. -- ferret (talk) 17:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Ferret Would the page on Steam's storefront be an OK source? https://store.steampowered.com/app/440/Team_Fortress_2/ Urbanracer34 (talk) 17:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's a really weird case where nothing says "Mac doesn't work anymore". This has an odd intersection with WP:OR. "Mac isn't listed after date" -> "Mac is discontinued". To verify this, we would need an web archive of 6/11 (6/12?) and the day after showing that Mac was removed. Then we could do prose like "On June 12, 2024, Mac was removed from the supported requirements." or similar. We can't do much commentary this way, but just the basic straight fact. -- ferret (talk) 17:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think I will pass working on this. It's not really that important. Just wanted the info out there. Urbanracer34 (talk) 17:15, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- So lets wait until a reliable source covers it AlexBobCharles (talk) 18:05, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- This just came out a couple of days ago: [1] Urbanracer34 (talk) 23:55, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Ferret I know this was a while ago but something new has come up from my last reply: https://www.imore.com/gaming/valve-just-dropped-mac-support-for-its-biggest-titles-team-fortress-2-portal-2-and-half-life-all-get-the-axe Urbanracer34 (talk) 15:47, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Urbanracer34 Seems to be a widely used source, though I've not encountered it before myself since I don't follow Mac. Should suffice. -- ferret (talk) 15:51, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Huh? The article claims that every Valve game under the sun dropped Mac support, but clearly this is not case. Checked both Portals just now and their Mac versions are still available. IceWelder [✉] 15:53, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't look into it carefully enough. I apologize. I guess we should leave it as is. Urbanracer34 (talk) 15:58, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- @IceWelder The store page for both Portal and Portal 2 no longer lists Mac. Even if Valve is still letting Mac users download the last support version, the store is definitely no longer listing it. -- ferret (talk) 15:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- True, but there is a difference between not showing a platform logo on the store page and outright deleting the game files for that platform, as is the case with this one. It's weird that the source doesn't make this distinction. I also noticed that (for example) Left 4 Dead, which also does not show macOS on the store page, still gets macOS updates; latest one less that two weeks ago ([2]). iMore only uses SteamDB for its sourcing; on June 12, macOS was removed from several OS lists, but the same history shows they were restored on June 14. I personally think that this is a bug on Valve's side. IceWelder [✉] 16:10, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's a really weird case where nothing says "Mac doesn't work anymore". This has an odd intersection with WP:OR. "Mac isn't listed after date" -> "Mac is discontinued". To verify this, we would need an web archive of 6/11 (6/12?) and the day after showing that Mac was removed. Then we could do prose like "On June 12, 2024, Mac was removed from the supported requirements." or similar. We can't do much commentary this way, but just the basic straight fact. -- ferret (talk) 17:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Ferret Would the page on Steam's storefront be an OK source? https://store.steampowered.com/app/440/Team_Fortress_2/ Urbanracer34 (talk) 17:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2024
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I want to add an image to this article. Kingofthewetcats (talk) 11:04, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Question: Which image would you like to add? Could you provide a link to it on Commons? '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 12:38, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for replying so late, I forgot someone responded to this. here's the image i want to add: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Team_Fortress_2_Engineer_Gameplay.png Kingofthewetcats (talk) 18:48, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Not done: That's a copyright violation on Commons and will be deleted. -- ferret (talk) 19:26, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Bestseller or commercial success?
[edit]Is this game supposed to be a bestseller and/or commercial success or neither? Why? Thomas Wiencek (talk) 03:22, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Engineer having a robotic arm
[edit]I know this will probably be considered very minor, but to my knowledge, the Engineer has a robotic arm that his right glove covers. Should that be added in, and if so, how? Lacon432 (talk) 23:47, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've not heard of this before, and even if it was true, it'd probably be such a minor in-universe detail that it would not be worth including anyhow. IceWelder [✉] 09:27, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Voice actor of Saxton Hale in VSH
[edit]From what I know the voice actor for Saxton Hale in VSH is not the official voice actor, as the mode was community made, (I couldn't find a good source other than steam forums mentioning this) 69.171.222.49 (talk) 15:25, 4 October 2024 (UTC)