Template:Did you know nominations/Poll (parrot)
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by DimensionalFusion talk 09:15, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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Poll (parrot)
- ... that a parrot reportedly screamed profanities at the funeral of Andrew Jackson?
Created by Di (they-them) (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 16 past nominations.
Di (they-them) (talk) 02:33, 26 July 2024 (UTC).
- Age and length are fine. No copvio/plagiarism concerns (Earwig = 26% but it's a quote). The hook is entertaining, and reliably sourced. I think it's good to go. KJP1 (talk) 05:55, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Pulled per Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Prep 6: Poll (parrot) (nom). SL93 (talk) 16:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Di (they-them): Please address the contents of Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 201#Prep 6: Poll (parrot) (nom).--Launchballer 20:28, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I believe I already addressed the concerns in the discussion. The sources cited are reliable and the hook is confirmed by the sources. Di (they-them) (talk) 20:38, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Looking at the article, I agree. I just tried to rearrange the article so that it would not deserve {{lead extra info}}, but did not see the words "African grey" in either of the sources in the lead. I think this should be added to the body and cited.--Launchballer 08:04, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I believe I already addressed the concerns in the discussion. The sources cited are reliable and the hook is confirmed by the sources. Di (they-them) (talk) 20:38, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Di (they-them): Please address the contents of Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 201#Prep 6: Poll (parrot) (nom).--Launchballer 20:28, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.naplesnews.com/story/news/local/communities/marco-eagle/2016/08/03/strange-but-true-andrew-jackson-and-cursing-parrot/87926936/ is an egregious example of an unreliable source. RoySmith (talk) 12:31, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Di (they-them): Please address the above. For the record, I can live with Naples News, as it is a) a subsidiary of USA Today, which is listed green at WP:RSP (i.e. there probably isn't zero factchecking), and b) the article is being used for a not terribly controversial claim about a dead animal. I'm happy to take it. I would still like to see "African grey" sourced.--Launchballer 12:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think your response about Naples News is good. If necessary, I can remove it since it's just reinforcing claims by other sources as well. As for "African grey", that's just a synonym for Grey parrot, so it's just a matter of semantics. I'll change the wording in the article to say "Grey parrot" instead just to be safe. Di (they-them) (talk) 14:19, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have raised this question at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Listicle as a RS? RoySmith (talk) 15:01, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Are all grey parrots African? If not, this needs a source.--Launchballer 07:38, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Grey parrot and African grey refer to a specific species of parrot, Psittacus erithacus. Di (they-them) (talk) 12:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think your response about Naples News is good. If necessary, I can remove it since it's just reinforcing claims by other sources as well. As for "African grey", that's just a synonym for Grey parrot, so it's just a matter of semantics. I'll change the wording in the article to say "Grey parrot" instead just to be safe. Di (they-them) (talk) 14:19, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Di (they-them): Please address the above. For the record, I can live with Naples News, as it is a) a subsidiary of USA Today, which is listed green at WP:RSP (i.e. there probably isn't zero factchecking), and b) the article is being used for a not terribly controversial claim about a dead animal. I'm happy to take it. I would still like to see "African grey" sourced.--Launchballer 12:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
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How reliable is the Presidential Pets Museum? It's not supporting anything extraordinary at the moment, but I'm wondering because it does specify that Poll was an African grey parrot. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:58, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how I can prove the reliability of the museum. I think that a museum dedicated to a subject should be considered reliable, but other than that I don't know. Di (they-them) (talk) 22:13, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- According to their page, they were established by one person, with one other person taking over after 18 years - hence my question. A passion project is not necessarily reliable. As I said, the claim it's supporting is not controversial, and implied by other sources. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- I interpret their Media Coverage page as proof that they meet WP:SPS and WP:UBO, so I'd be inclined to take it.--Launchballer 22:36, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. Good to go now. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC)