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Assessing your articles

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Yellow Evan, I noticed that you keep assessing your own articles up to C and B class. The fact that they're nowhere close to those levels aside, it is generally discouraged to assess your own articles. Please refrain from doing such, and ask another editor's opinion on an article. Thank you. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 14:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

No, it shouldn't be. The assessment scale is not a grade of how long the article is. Hurricane Hernan (2008) is very poorly written, there's little content outside of a rough storm history, it's under-references, and the lead is too short. It could either be considered a stub or a start right now, though certainly no higher. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 14:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Go ahead. Let me know when you're done so I can re-assess. But please do not upgrade it yourself. Also, I'm going to ask you again to please sign your comments on talk pages with ~~~~. Thank you. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 14:23, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
No, because there is no guarantee that it will in fact be better. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 14:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
The writing is still very poor. There are still exclamation points. There is incorrect grammar. There are short, stubby sentences, with little meaning. And what's that link the middle of the prose? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 14:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Why do you keep moving Hernan into the mainspace, and reverting the merging? There is a clear consensus to merge, and your edits are beginning to resemble vandalism. Please stop. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Just because it has been around for days doesn't mean it should stay. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:42, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


Help has arrived

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OK, so first thing's first. I suggest you take a little break from editing. You're making enemies, fast, and that is the last thing anyone needs. I suggest you read up on Wikipedia policy, and start by reading the five pillars of Wikipedia. You should learn about the project you are writing for. Along those lines, you should also think about the project you are writing for. It is an encyclopedia, meaning you need to be able to write. In the past few days, you've made some edits that contained typos and other typographical errors, and sometimes even reverted them. Here is a quick list.

  1. Just a few minutes ago you changed a link from Typhoon Paka to Hurricane Paka - as a rule of thumbs, do not change the Wikilink unless the article title has been changed, and do not ever change the article title without discussion
  2. A few minutes ago on Tropical Storm Julio - you changed "light" to "heavey". It's spelled "heavy", but more importantly, the rainfall was actually quite light (just 1 inch).
  3. This edit to Tropical Storm Erick changed the section title from "Effects" to "Imapct" - it's spelled "impact".

Cheers. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:56, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Redirecting your sandboxes

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When you're done with your sandboxes, you should request for their deletion by putting this template on the page - {{Db-g7}}. Simply redirecting them an existing article is bad, as there is no point for the redirect then. I suggest you do this for most, if not all of your sandboxes. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:48, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

If you want to talk about changing an established article ([[List of Pacific hurricanes], you should do so on its talk page. Second, no, Hurricane Flossie should not redirect to the 2007 storm, since it wasn't retired. Please read up the policy before doing such a change, as we have policy for a reason.
No, there is no need for any sub-article for Hurricane Kathleen. If you think the information is stubby, then you should add the information in. Just make sure the information is verifiable with a link.
Good luck working on Flossie, I guess. Just make sure you don't make the article any worse. If the storm history is already good enough (such as it has all of the needed information), then there's no need to change it. Try and find impact that might not be in the article. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:28, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for taking so long to respond. First of all, please stop creating the new articles. None of them are needed, and none of them are any good. As I've said before, you are in the process of making enemies. I asked you before, but you ignored - have you gone through grade school writing and grammar? If so, please, write better the first around, and avoid the spelling and grammar mistakes. If not, then I suggest you avoid writing for a while, until you learn how to write. Regarding the Pacific hurricanes article, you must create a discussion to get people to agree with you. If no one agrees, or if no one knows about it, then you could been as disruptive. So, to recap, please stop making new articles, and please allow your old ones to be redirected. None of them are any good, and it just creates more work for other people to clean up. If you're looking for a storm that has a lot of info, why not try Hurricane Iris? I know it already exists, but it could give you the chance to work with a pretty significant storm, and one for which your efforts would not be wasted on. The key to making a good article is to find every piece of information available on the storm, and research very thoroughly. That means doing a Google search for "Hurricane Iris", using and citing every useful link you can find. Note, you'll have to cite, which means reading over WP:CITE and doing it correctly, or by using the formats established by other articles (check out Hurricane Lane (2006), which is featured). So recapping once more - please don't make any new articles, and instead work on Hurricane Iris. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Your revision to 2007 Pacific hurricane season#Tropical Storm Alvin

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Hi Yellow Evan. Please, explain your edits on the talk page of the corresponding article, or on edit summary. You're deleting valid informations. -Ramisses (talk) 15:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

September 2008

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Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to List of Pacific hurricanes, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: List of Pacific Hurricanes

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Because you're making a large-scale change to a page without previous discussion or consensus to back it up. Propose it on the talk page before blanking a page and adding a few links. Cheers, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:29, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Please stop

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Yellow Even, we have tried to get you to understand and you have refused to listen, so I'm going to have to be blunt. Your articles are messes. They are unsourced, only a few lines long, are full of grammar, and lack infoboxes, WikiLinks, and other necessary components to a Wikipedia article. When I, Hurricanehink, Mitchazenia, or any other member of the project merge your articles you cannot undo without discussing it. I'm going to ask you not to create any more articles before reading up on how to create pages that are up to Wikipedia's standards. Thank you. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't understand most of that. May I ask if English is your first language? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 02:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
That's fine, but what if I said I giggled at your grammar? Listen, I don't want to start an argument. Just please listen to Hurricanehink and read up on policy before creating more articles. Thank you. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:47, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Are you trying to start an argument? Focus on the encyclopedia, not whether you can out-argue other editors. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 14:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Articles

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OMG 9 sentences isn't enough, try to make it at least as long as Tropical Storm Douglas (2008). You are driving me nuts!!! --Elena85 | Talk to Me | 1800 edits!!!' 18:38, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Please read

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Sorry for taking so long to respond. First of all, please stop creating the new articles. None of them are needed, and none of them are any good. Hurricane Max (2005), for example, is not at all needed; it is extremely short, and the overall writing is poor. As such, it should stay merged. As I've said before, you are in the process of making enemies. I asked you before, but you ignored - have you gone through grade school writing and grammar? If so, please, write better the first around, and avoid the spelling and grammar mistakes. If not, then I suggest you avoid writing for a while, until you learn how to write. Regarding the Pacific hurricanes article, you must create a discussion to get people to agree with you. If no one agrees, or if no one knows about it, then you could been as disruptive. So, to recap, please stop making new articles, and please allow your old ones to be redirected. None of them are any good, and it just creates more work for other people to clean up. If you're looking for a storm that has a lot of info, why not try Hurricane Iris? I know it already exists, but it could give you the chance to work with a pretty significant storm, and one for which your efforts would not be wasted on. The key to making a good article is to find every piece of information available on the storm, and research very thoroughly. That means doing a Google search for "Hurricane Iris", using and citing every useful link you can find. Note, you'll have to cite, which means reading over WP:CITE and doing it correctly, or by using the formats established by other articles (check out Hurricane Lane (2006), which is featured). So recapping once more - please don't make any new articles, and instead work on Hurricane Iris. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Please respond as soon as you read this. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:09, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm only trying to help you out. First of all, Max isn't that notable for absorbing Linda, and even if it was, you cannot have an article that short and stubby. This may be a free encyclopedia, but you need to realize you don't own your articles. Hilary, Max, and Otis are all unneeded, although Otis is the most notable out of the three (which is why it hasn't been merged yet). I strongly suggest you stop making any new articles, since nearly all of them have been merged by various project members, simply because all of them are poor, unneeded articles. Regarding that list of articles you think should be made, I don't think any of them need articles at the moment. Personally, I think the best thing for you would be to improve an existing article, which is why I suggested Hurricane Iris. The storm has a ton of information available, but the article is rather poor. I'm telling you this because I don't want you to leave the project. I want you to be useful, and I believe you can be in the future. But right now, you are creating more work than what it is necessary, by making the new articles. I hope you read and understand what I am saying. I am willing to help, but I can't do 100%. I hope you take faith in what I am saying. I have been here for over three years, and I know my way around the place. To be honest, I am working on finding enthusiastic editors who could be great editors in the future, and I believe you are one of them. Cheers. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Ekeka could probably stay, but that's not important. Yellow Evan, please read my post again. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:02, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm telling you, that is a bad policy. You haven't written a good article yet. I don't know what MH is, but it is probably a bad idea. Please read what I said again. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:22, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree with Hurricanehink here on most points. Creating new stub storm articles that contain no more information than already exists within the season articles, does not help. Just because a topic (storm) is notable does not mean we need a stub article on it if the information can be presented better in a list (seasonal) format. Take some time to work on improving your writing and researching skills by working on existing articles to improve them. Talk to experienced editors for guidance, and consider their advice seriously; joining the IRC channel can help speed this up. — jdorje (talk) 03:35, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Yellow Evan, I'm telling you, it doesn't matter how much you try fixing articles up. You cannot write good articles, and stubs like this are polluting the project by creating more work. As an aside, Boris and the Mazatlan hurricane still exist only because other editors worked on them. Fausto is far from good, as it is merely a copy of the tropical cyclone report. And so I'll say it once again - it doesn't matter how much you try fixing your articles up. You are fighting a losing argument by trying to keep Hurricane Hillary (2005) (which is misspelled, BTW). Fausto could be on the way to being merged, as well. PLEASE stop making the new articles. Instead, as Jdorje said, take some time to work on improving your writing and researching skills by working on existing articles to improve them.

Now, I have a question for you. Would you be opposed to talking with the rest of the WPTC editors online? We have sort of a chatroom on Internet Relay Chat, but it's reserved to only WPTC members, and so I am formally inviting you to join. You just have to click on this link; when it says "Connect to IRC:" click on the dropbox and change it to freenode.net (it's pretty far down the list). Then, under Nick: put your name, and under Channel(s): put #wiki-hurricanes. I hope you join, so we can talk to you. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

We really want to to talk to you on the IRC. We think you have potential to be a great editor, but you're not doing so well right now. If you come on to the IRC, we can show you how to make a great article, all by yourself. It's a bit tedious to show through talk pages. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:32, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
And I'll say again, we really want to talk to you, just so you realize we're all part of a team, and not just individual editors. We have certain standards, and you aren't meeting them. I really suggest you stop writing articles for now, and instead learn how to improve existing articles. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:03, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
It's clear you're on right now. There are a group of editors who would like to help you out, but it's cumbersome having to do it on talk page. For example, we are talking about how you should not have moved that depression article. Please just come on for a little while. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Ugh, please stop with the new articles. I see you plan on making Meteorological history of Hurricane Guillermo (1997), and I can assure you that will be redirected as soon as it is published. Please, take a look back at what you are creating. Every subject does not need an article. Please, stop wasting your time, and instead work on an existing article. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:22, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, please follow our suggestions. For why you should, consider this analogy: Which would you rather have, (1) twenty leaky drafty houses that are in ruins and that you built yourself? Or (2) one other house that while not a mansion or created by you at least keeps you warm and dry? I would take the second choice and I know you and everyone would take the second choice. Change houses to articles and you will see why you shouldn't keep creating articles the way you are. By learning the ropes on an existing article you will eventually be able to make houses rather than rubble. And if this dispute escalates further, it may eventually get to Requests for comment. Trust me, you don't want to go there. I would never send my worst enemy there. I personally offer to help you work on an existing article. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 00:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Yellow Evan, would you mind explaining this edit? It is factually incorrect, and adding incorrect information can be seen as vandalism. If you continue doing edits such as that, you could get blocked. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I redirected the article for Guillermo's met. history. There is NO need for the article, since, as we went through with Hurricane Ioke, removing the met. history would make the main article too short. Please stop making the new articles. Please, just stop. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that Guillermo's met. history in the main article isn't good, or just the article that you made? Yea, working on Hurricane Kathleen (1976) would be a great idea. We have project resources that should be able to help, and I'm sure a thorough Google search would help a lot. Let me know if you need help. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

It's pretty clear

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Not to be harsh, but you're not helping the project any. Do you have any other interests? Who knows, you could benefit with them. I, and the project do feel that you should either start following standards or stop creating articles which are just hurting the project. Several people have suggested mentorship, but right now you're driving the project downhill. If you could reply, or contact me on Internet Relay Chat or e-mail me. It would be benefcial to the project if you start listening to the people who have suggested what to do. Otherwise, please STOP recreating articles and doing all the stuf you are doing, its becoming huge pain in the butt.Mitch32(UP) 18:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

"Sandbox"

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Don't make a sandbox 4 TD 11 when it forms. You know why, because you have horrible grammar, spelling and it will be too short. Let some one else do it O.K.? --Elena85 | Talk to Me | Almost 2000 edits' 22:15, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:BEANS –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 22:19, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
  • What do you mean, face it, your writing is horrible and your articles are short. His article has info and is thorough while your Meteorological history of Guilernmo isn't comprehensive and doesn't has enough info.

--Elena85 | Talk to Me | Almost 2000 edits' 22:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

  • But your articles are no where near that! They has spelling and grammar mistakes! Improve some other article.!

--Elena85 | Talk to Me | Almost 2000 edits' 22:41, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

  • Ha, Ekeka was largely improved by Hurricanehink so it doesn't count and Fausto was edited largely by Miss Madeline. Stop arguing with this! You should try to improve other articles so that you are actually help.

--Elena85 | Talk to Me | Almost 2000 edits' 22:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

--Elena85 | Talk to Me | Almost 2000 edits' 22:53, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Daman

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Don't do it!!! user: Jason Rees already has a great sandbox, why don't you ask him? --Elena85 | Talk to Me | Almost 2000 edits' 22:39, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: 1939 California tropical storm

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This article is unique in its title, but it should be kept where it is, primarily for the fact that it is most notable for making landfall on California as a tropical storm. It did not make landfall as a hurricane, nor did many people even know it was a hurricane. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Stop

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Yellow Evan, please listen to me. You are creating extremely poor and stubby articles, which are a blight to the project. You're not being helpful, rather, you're slowing the project down. When WPTC redirects one of your articles, there will have been a consensus to do so, and when you revert such a change, your edits borderline vandalism. I'm going to ask you again. Please stop creating articles until you gain a knowledge of Wikipedia's core policies, and you learn what an article should be, and more importantly, don't revert an article against consensus. Thank you. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Are you reading what we are telling you? Do you even care? Do not revert a merging of one of your articles against a project consensus. You are vandalizing, edit warring, and you can be blocked if you continue. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 12:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

GA review for Hurricane Ekeka (1992)

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You did not do the GA review correctly for the aforementioned storm, and so I reverted some of your recent edits that passed the article. Additionally, you are not supposed to assess/review articles which you had significant involvement. Please read up more about policy. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:29, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I know you are new, but you are not following anyone's advice. Everyone has asked you to stop writing articles for the time being, and to stop editing without asking anyone else what to do. You should not review for the GA process at the time, since you are so new to the project. As we said before, please take some time reading up on policy, and taking note of what makes an article good, poor, and even featured. BTW, your edits to Hurricane Kathleen (1976) were not good - you removed references and added new, unsourced information. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Lowell (2008)

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Why did you add so much information for Ike to the article? The remnants joined, but the damage was related to Ike. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 02:27, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Please check out this revision. First of all, please learn to write better. I have no idea what your edit summary meant - it merged with Ike dd I do not think you want it to be Second, you added back in a redirected link, which goes to Hurricane Ike. Third, Lowell was a very minimal tropical storm, which was absorbed by the front which later impacted the mid-west. Thus, the impact in Chicago was not directly related to Lowell. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:15, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

What does that even mean about Maria? You are responsible for every edit you make. Please learn to spell better - in fact, have you even passed elementary school English classes? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:35, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
He appears to have an understanding of (some) basic grammar, so I don't think it is a fundamental language problem. The spelling errors are random - he often spells the same word three or four different ways - which makes me believe that it is simply carelessness. Or vandalism. Plasticup T/C 04:45, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
What does Maria have to do with anything? Lowell was a minimal tropical storm, that hardly anyone knew about nor cared about once its remnants reached the midwest, since Ike was the dominant factor. Maria was a powerful hurricane, which was widely known as a contributor to the remnants in the Europe. I'll ask again. Have you even passed elementary school English classes? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 13:56, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I am only deleting a few redirects to the main space, some general cleanup. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to post this again, because I don't like how you removed it, but I also added to it. Are you are still in elementary school? If so (you don't need to answer), then Wikipedia is probably not the place for you. The site is an encyclopedia, meaning good writing and research skills are expected. It doesn't appear you can write or research well - no offense, but your typos are outrageous, and in all of your articles you almost solely relied on the TCR. You don't know policy at all. On the page for discussing the deletion of the hurricane main template, you voted five times (four times you said keep, and one time you said merge), which certainly isn't helping the process. Additionally, it doesn't appear you can take criticism or people telling you what's best. I hope you take the time to think about this. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I still hope you respond to the above. Also, the hurricane main template would look the exact same as the main template, if it was redirected. Nothing would change, except for no more bold. You voted four times on that page, which is votestacking - such an offense is highly frowned upon, and if you do that again, you could get blocked. Again, please respond to the above post. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:07, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Also, do you actually plan on working on Norman, or do you just plan on doing some minor but problematic edits, as you did to Hurricane Kathleen (1976) (which actually made the article worse). Once more, please respond to what I said above. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:10, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I really didn't understand what you just said. If you don't want to talk about this on Wikipedia, could you come onto the IRC? Click here. Then, where it says IRC: click to the right of that, then scroll down to freenode.net. Next to nick: type your name in, and under Channel(s): type in #wiki-hurricanes. I'd really like you to come on there. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:14, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
So when you get a chance, can you come onto IRC? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:19, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Effects of Tropical Storm Lowell in the Midwest

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A tag has been placed on Effects of Tropical Storm Lowell in the Midwest, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from an implausible typo.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you believe that there is a reason to keep the redirect, you can request that administrators wait a while before deleting it. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Plasticup T/C 04:29, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I am placing your talk page on my watchlist, so please respond here. That will leave the entire discussion in one place, making it easier for others to read. Plasticup T/C 04:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

You are more than welcome to have my page on your watchlist --Leave Message orYellow Evan home 13:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Fake Ella

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Hi, Yellow Evan. Just so you know, I put "Elena" on my fake hurricane naming list, not "Ella." Also, "Erika" is replacing Elena, not "Emilia." And "Erin" is on List 3 and "Esther" is on List 5. But how's this: Ella will replace Erin, and Emilia will replace Esther. Happy? --Dylan620 (talk) 23:01, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

P.S.: Welcome to WP:TROP. You're actually one of the few members newer than me.

3RR

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Template:Hurricane main. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule at Template:Hurricane main. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|I did not even look at the first warning because i was getting a haircut}} below. MastCell Talk 21:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

It also appears that you've been logging out to press this edit-war using your IP, which is an exacerbating factor. MastCell Talk 21:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC) 

You are using this template in the wrong namespace. Use this template on your talk page instead.

I have to help sometimes to get the template to work! --Rose09 | Talk | 2011 edits' 21:48, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I dissagree about what should it say on the template (I also think the rull is silly) and the Hurricane main is more then likely to get merged or get rid of the bold. it makes all the pages look silly and they are over 60 pages with the template.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 23:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, when your block expires you should express your view on the template's talk page. KnightLago (talk) 23:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Unblock me theres what i care about more then be able to edit a template thats going to get merged.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 23:19, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

72 hours for 3RR when the user was unaware of the rule? That strikes me as unnecessarily harsh. Plasticup T/C 00:34, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
He was blocked for 3RR in the past, so he clearly knows of the rule. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:36, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
That's not true, as I blocked him for breaking the 3RR previously (see above). Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 00:37, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Oh, that makes a whole lot of difference. Plasticup T/C 00:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

It is a silly rule and I try to remember. Its is hard to remember. It should have been 36 hours I would say.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 00:44, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

No, it is not a "silly rule". It is a very important policy that prevents edit warring and severe disruption, which is exactly what you doing. Being "hard to remember" is not an excuse. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

i think the time is the main issue. It should be 123 strikes your out. Tixod never should have blocked me in the fist place and that was the day Tropical Storm Lowell struck my house. We must that user about it.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 02:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I meant Julio (Lowell also knocked on my door).

Um, no. Per policy, users get blocked for 24 hours the first time they violate 3RR. Also, what does Julio or Lowell have to do with anything? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 02:40, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
(ec) Please don't be a liar. Julio dissipated on August 28, and I blocked you on September 8. Lowell was in the middle of the ocean on September 8, so I doubt that one affected you at the time of your blocking, unless you live in the Islas Marías. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 02:46, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

just interesting.i bnot expect to now. what about second.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 02:45, 29 September 2008 (UTC) i am going to show you something worse.

The remains of Julio enter the southwest with its identity. Residual moisture struck labor Day, anyway thats not the piont but it is interesting to know.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 02:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Mabey Julication is right what if the WPTC got into a war . what page did I do the edit war. I think it was one of the Boris's but i am not sure. Will some one let hurricanehink know. More after the Simpsons.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 03:01, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Someone unblock me. the first time was too harsh(blocking someone when you do not no the rule?)thats nonsense. Juliancolton or Hurricanehink would at let me now before hand. We should let her know. He even miss understood me in first reason.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 14:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Spell my name right and please use a spell checker. I have no idea what you're saying. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

PLEASE UNBLOCK ME.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 03:49, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


blanking pages is worse those anyone agrre

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Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to 2004 Atlantic hurricane season. Your edits have been automatically marked as unconstructive/possible vandalism and have been automatically reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you believe there has been a mistake and would like to report a false positive, please report it here and then remove this warning from your talk page. If your edit was not vandalism, please feel free to make your edit again after reporting it. The following is the log entry regarding this warning: 2004 Atlantic hurricane season was changed by 68.124.71.22 (u) (t) blanking the page on 2008-07-30T23:20:25+00:00 . Thank you. ClueBot (talk) 23:20, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Please do not vandalize pages, as you did with this edit to Hurricane Charley. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing. ScarianCall me Pat! 23:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


This is your last warning.
The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Hurricane Charley, you will be blocked from editing.
Your edits have been automatically marked as vandalism and have been automatically reverted. The following is the log entry regarding this vandalism: Hurricane Charley was changed by 68.124.71.22 (u) (t) blanking the page on 2008-07-30T23:22:47+00:00 . Thank you. ClueBot (talk) 23:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for Vandalism. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may do so when the block expires. ScarianCall me Pat! 23:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

You have removed several user warning templates from your user or user talk page. This is a bad idea. These warnings are not put on your talk page to annoy you; they are put here because other editors think that your behavior needs improvement, and we're giving you the courtesy of letting you know. Please respond by changing your behavior, and please stop removing the warnings. Thank you. —Jer10 95 Talk 17:12, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Hurricane Wilma, without explaining the valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. L337*P4wn 01:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits, such as the one you made to Hurricane Emily (2005). If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing. JForget 01:15, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

If this is a shared IP address, and you didn't make the edit, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for repeated abuse of editing privileges. Please stop. You're welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. VegaDark (talk) 01:17, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 02:45, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Dora

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Tropical Storm Dora
Tropical Storm (SSHWS/NWS)
Dora near peak intensity.
FormedJuly 22, 2007
DissipatedJuly 27, 2007
Highest winds1-minute sustained: 45 mph (75 km/h)
Lowest pressure1003 mbar (hPa); 29.62 inHg
FatalitiesNone Reported
Areas affectedMexican Rivera
Part of the 2005 Pacific hurricane season

Dora was a tropical storm that effected Mexico as a minimal tropical storm.

Meteorological History

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Map plotting the storm's track and intensity, according to the Saffir–Simpson scale
Map key
Saffir–Simpson scale
  Tropical depression (≤38 mph, ≤62 km/h)
  Tropical storm (39–73 mph, 63–118 km/h)
  Category 1 (74–95 mph, 119–153 km/h)
  Category 2 (96–110 mph, 154–177 km/h)
  Category 3 (111–129 mph, 178–208 km/h)
  Category 4 (130–156 mph, 209–251 km/h)
  Category 5 (≥157 mph, ≥252 km/h)
  Unknown
Storm type
triangle Extratropical cyclone, remnant low, tropical disturbance, or monsoon depression

A tropical wave left Africa on June 14. It moved westward without any deep convection. It continued through the Caribbean and crossed Central America on July 1 and entered the Eastern pacific Ocean shortly thereafter. The wave turned north as it began to organize. Finally on July 3 the NHC classified the wave as Tropical Depression Four-E and Tropical Cyclone Watches and Warnings were issued.

Upon becoming a tropical cyclone, land was in the way which could have weakened the cyclone. Instead, It became better organized and was upgraded to Tropical Storm Dora six hours later. Shortly thereafter, Dora reached a peak of 45 mph.

Twelve hors after its peak, it became a 40 mph Tropical Storm while effecting Mexican States like Guerrero. On July 6 Dora made it closest approach to Mexico, coming within 45 miles. Later that day, It regained peak intensity later that day, but it was downgraded to a 35 mph tropical depression and all warnings and watches were discontinued. It dissipated on July 6.

Impact

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Dora brought heavy rains washing out roadways, but no damage was reported.

Many watches and warnings were issued from Acapulco to La Fortuna. On July 4A 45 mph wind report from ship H9UY (Nikkei Phoenix) located 20 miles east of the center was useful in determining the peak intensity of Dora. A 35 mph wind report on July 2 from ship 4XFQ located 35 miles southeast of the center was helpful in estimating the extent of tropical storm-force winds.

After Dora began to interact with the mountainous terrain of coastal Mexico on July 5, satellite-based automated objective Dvorak T-numbers from the University of Wisconsin’s Cooperative Institute for Meteorological Satellite Studies (UW-CIMSS) produced overestimated intensity values of 40-50 kt. These inflated values were likely due to enhanced convective development caused by the southerly upslope flow on the east side of Dora.

SEason

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I help too. If you keep up w/ your writing NO but if you improve yes But improve first. --Rose09 Rashmi Next 18:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Just in case this is about my 1984 Planet Ceres Atlantic hurricane season, I think that's a good idea. However, I do think it's fair to give you a shot. But be mindful that if you make too many grammatical or spelling errors, you will not be allowed to edit my fake hurricane seasons until you improve. Use a spell check (something that underlines spelling errors in red and grammatical errors in green) if it helps. Dylan620 Life story 20:03 UTC October 2, 2008

3 things,

  • first of all it's Ceres not Ceaser and
  • the hurricane list is of 1995 see my talk page for details about the list, it should be at archive 2 and
  • and third of all, please do not mess around with my user talk pages. I use that template so that I can keep track of it.

--Rose09 Rashmi Next 22:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

First of all (fourth if you count Elena85's warnings), please do not merge Tropical Storm "Daylan" (which you misspelled: it's "Dylan," not "Daylan"). And second of all, I agree with you on the grounds that the season is rather stubby, but it was fictional, and I am not finished. Plus, I'd rather Dylan stay where it's at. You may continue editing the seasons, but please be careful.

On the grounds of your fake season, as a result of the large amount of differences between what happened on Planet Ceres and what you created, I'll make up Planet "Ceser" and let you create all of that planet's seasons. Enjoy. Dylan620 Life story 17:36 UTC October 3, 2008

Hurricane Adolph

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Please do not make such a move without discussion. If you are ever unsure about something, just don't do it. You removed the content from one page, then put it into another page. That destroyed the edit history, which is a violation of Wikipedia policy. I reverted your changes, but consider this a warning not to any rash behavior in the future, or you could get blocked again. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

season

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check WP:WPTC talk, you can't make seasons. Maybe you could update the pacific seasons? --Rose09 Rashmi Next 18:41, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

NO! Please don't create any new seasons and blank any fake seasons. Work with real hurricane seasons not articles!!!!--Rose09 Rashmi Next 18:51, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Did you check!!!

--Rose09 Rashmi Next 18:51, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I won't apologize. Either way, some would delete it anyway. Don't Create any new ones and that is not vandalism WP:DTTR and do not edit on the archives, it is a preserved copy, that is vandalism! If you keep on doing this and reverting other people, and your edit to Adolph was vandalism, that stuff is not supposed to be there and stop telling people that they are vandalizing because you have vandalized more than them ever and Stop REverting!!!

--Rose09 Rashmi Next 19:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

By the way I responded to you at hurricanehink's talk page and do not call me CRAZY!!! and Now do you know how I feel when ou edit my pages? I didn't do the edit because of that but you are exhausting my last bit of patience!

--Rose09 Rashmi Next 20:39, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

DOn't Touch 1990 Season, That is my page and I want it to saty that way and also, did you copy my norman sandbox when you made norman?

--Rose09 Rashmi Next 21:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Yellow Evan, would you please explain why you moved the 1990 Planet Ceres Atlantic Hurricane season to make it one of your subpages? I can see why Elena85 is upset about it; I would be too, if someone moved one of my subpages to make it their own.

I will let you off the hook this time. But if this happens again, that icon on the upper-left section of my message will turn into this:

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Uh, sorry. I don't know how to make a link to the picture without showing the picture itself.Dylan620 Life story 22:36 UTC October 3, 2008

Type [[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|thumb]]. Plasticup T/C 23:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Ugh (and other stuff)

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I don't know where to start. Please, please be more careful when making your edits. If you are considering doing anything, ask someone else first, and let them do it. For the article you wanted to make on TD 11 in 1999, you moved it to a user page, but then didn't update the redirect. Not to mention, there is already an article on that (which I redirected it to).

Next, could you explain this edit? You reverted the edit of administrator and called it vandalism, which is very bad taste.

You might be interested in this discussion on the WPTC talk page. It deals with the fake season articles, and how they are being considered to be eliminated.

One more question. Is English your first language? Your writing and spelling errors makes it look like either you deliberately misspell, or you don't know how to spell correctly. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:04, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Also, keep in mind, if you ever have an article in user space, please remove any categories that are in there. It is against Wiki-policy to have categories show up in user space. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:06, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


Please use edit summaries

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Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thank you. Plasticup T/C 00:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Warning

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Do not revert changes without consensus, as it is considered vandalism. For example, you restored the article on Tropical Depression Fifteen-E (2008), as well as removed the link to Hurricane Elida (2008) on the WPTC page, without a clear reason. If you continue making these disruptive edits, you will get blocked again, and this time it would be for a longer period of time. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Tropical Storm Norbert(2008). Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:09, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Please do not engage in edit warring; this would be your third block for the same reason. You need to remember that editing to Wikipedia is not a guaranteed right, but is rather a privilege that requires following our policies and guidelines. If you continue to willfully break the three-revert rule, you may face longer blocks, or even indefinite revocation of your editing privileges. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 03:25, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Your WT:WPTC comment

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Yellow Evan, how do you explain this? Calling Bud the worst article you have seen is a personal attack. I suggest you consider withdrawing that comment, as you have little room to criticize the quality of articles. Thank you. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

How can criticizing an article be considered a personal attack? Plasticup T/C 19:29, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
It's not. However, calling it "the worst article I've seen" can very easily be considered a personal attack towards the creator of the article. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
I think that is a bit of a stretch. It follows the cardinal rule of talking about the content, not the content creator. Plasticup T/C 22:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

monthly Newsletter

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Number 19, August 2, 2008

The Hurricane Herald

This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. This newsletter covers all of July 2008.

Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve monitoring of the WikiProject's articles.

Storm of the month

Hurricane Bertha near peak intensity
Hurricane Bertha near peak intensity

Hurricane Bertha was a rare early season Cape Verde-type hurricane and the easternmost forming July tropical storm on record. Bertha became the longest-lived pre-August Atlantic tropical cyclone on record and the longest-lived tropical cyclone in the Atlantic Basin since Ivan in 2004. The second named storm of the 2008 Atlantic hurricane season, Bertha developed from a tropical wave that emerged off the coast of Africa on July 1. After initially remaining weak while tracking westward, Bertha began to strengthen on July 6, and the next day it quickly intensified to reach peak winds of 120 mph (195 km/h). The hurricane weakened during the day on July 8, and after turning to a northwest drift, it passed within 40 miles (64 km) of Bermuda on July 14 before moving northeast away from the island. Bertha became extratropical on July 20 to the east of Newfoundland, after causing minimal damage and three indirect drowning deaths.

Other tropical cyclone activity

  • Northwestern Pacific Ocean – After several weeks of no activity, Typhoon Kalmaegi developed in the middle of the month, passing near northern Luzon before turning to the north and making landfalls on Taiwan and China; the typhoon caused heavy crop damage and 18 deaths. Later in the month, Typhoon Fung-Wong caused further flooding in Taiwan and China. In addition to the two named typhoons, PAGASA issued advisories on Tropical Depression Gener early in the month.
  • Eastern Pacific Ocean – Four named storms developed in the basin during the month, of which three became hurricanes; Hurricanes Elida, Fausto, and Genevieve, as well as Tropical Storm Douglas, all remained offshore, though in the middle of the month a tropical depression brought rainfall to Mexico after hitting near Lázaro Cárdenas, Michoacán. Hurricane Boris and Tropical Storm Cristina continued from the previous month.
  • Atlantic Ocean– In addition to Hurricane Bertha, two other tropical cyclones developed in the month. Tropical Storm Cristobal formed off the coast of Florida, bringing rainfall and gusty winds to coastal North Carolina and later Nova Scotia. The most damaging Atlantic tropical cyclone during the month was Hurricane Dolly, which formed on July 20 in the western Caribbean Sea. After tracking northwestward through the Gulf of Mexico, it reached peak winds of 100 mph (155 km/h) before moving ashore on South Padre Island, Texas. The hurricane caused flash flooding from heavy rainfall, with damage in the United States estimated at $1.2 billion; across its path Dolly caused 21 deaths, including 17 from landslides in Guademala, as well as two indirect fatalities.

Member of the month

Cyclone barnstar
Cyclone barnstar

The July member of the month is User:Plasticup. Joining the project in August of 2007, Plasticup first became an asset in working on the active article series on Hurricane Dean. After a period of inactivity, the user returned to produce two featured articles this month, both interesting meteorological histories. Additionally, Plasticup has focused some attention to articles in the 2005 season. Keep up the good work!

New members

Main Page content

Storm article statistics </noinclude>

Grade Apr May Jun Jul
FA 40 41 41 42
A 8 17 18 18
GA 131 129 135 139
B 103 101 96 15
C 0 0 3 98
Start 208 209 208 202
Stub 9 9 9 10
Total 499 506 510 524
ω 2.92 2.88 2.87 2.94
percentage
≥Less than C 		43.5 43.1 42.5 40.5
percentage
≥GA or better 		35.9 37.0 38.0 38.0

Project News
During July, there were two large changes to the operations of the WikiProject. First, WPTC adopted and helped develop the WP 1.0 B-Class criteria, and was among the first projects to use a "forced" B-Class rubric as part of their assessment schemes. This means that all the articles tagged with {{hurricane|class=B|...}} are automatically reassessed as {{C-Class}}, unless all the values in the checklist are marked as passed. In other words, to mark an article as B-Class, the banner needs to be changed to 

{{hurricane |class=B |B1=yes |B2=yes  |B3=yes |B4=yes |B5=yes |B6=yes | ... }}

B1, B2, B3, B4, B5 and B6 stand for each of the six points in the WikiProject's rubric. The banner also has the capability to mark why an article doesn't meet the new B-Class standards: Typing the following in an article's talk page 

{{hurricane |class=B |B1=no |B2=yes |B3=yes |B4=yes |B5=yes |B6=yes | ... }}

will assess an article as C-Class, and mark that the article is not a B because of bad references.

Articles assessed as B's before the introduction of the forced checklist were automatically reassessed as C's, but they're awaiting new reviews to check if they still meet the new B criteria. These articles are listed on Category:Tropical cyclone articles with incomplete B-Class checklists. Currently, there's 117 articles in the category—let's try to shrink that number to zero before the next edition of the Herald!

The other major change to the WikiProject was the addition of three task forces: the storm articles task force, season articles task force, and the tropical meteorology articles task force. These three task forces allow WPTC to see the progress of the different areas of the WikiProject. Currently, all 1,076 WPTC articles have been assigned to one of the three task forces, but any unsorted articles will be placed in Category:Unsorted tropical cyclone articles as they're tagged with {{hurricane}}.

In order to categorize an article, the banner needs to be modified from {{hurricane|...}} to: 

{{hurricane |storms-task-force=yes | ... }}
{{hurricane |seasons-task-force=yes | ... }}
{{hurricane |meteo-task-force=yes | ... }}

which will sort the pages into the storms, seasons, and tropical meteorology task forces, respectively.

Number 20, September 6, 2008

The Hurricane Herald

This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. This newsletter covers all of August 2008.

Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve monitoring of the WikiProject's articles.

Storm of the month

Hurricane Gustav at landfall in western Cuba at peak strength
Hurricane Gustav at landfall in western Cuba at peak strength

Hurricane Gustav was a deadly and damaging hurricane which formed late in the month in the Caribbean Sea. It first struck Haiti on August 26 as a minimal hurricane, where it killed 76 people and damaged or destroyed over 10,000 houses. Gustav turned to the southwest, moving over Jamaica where it killed 11 people. The hurricane rapidly intensified to reach peak winds of 150 mph (240 km/h) before making landfall on western Cuba; in the country, Gustav damaged or destroyed over 100,000 houses, though no deaths were reported due to well-executed evacuations. In the Gulf of Mexico, Gustav weakened due to its previous land interaction, and on September 1 it made landfall in south-central Louisiana as a Category 2 hurricane, where it caused heavy damage. Across its path, the hurricane caused 101 deaths, with an initial damage total of $20 billion.

Other tropical cyclone activity

  • Atlantic Ocean– In addition to Gustav, three other tropical cyclones formed. Early in the month, Tropical Storm Edouard caused light damage when it moved ashore along Texas. In the middle of the month, Tropical Storm Fay formed over Hispaniola and later crossed over Cuba into the Gulf of Mexico; throughout the Caribbean it caused 25 deaths. Fay struck southwestern Florida, moved across the state, turned to the west, and moved across the Florida panhandle, making a record four landfalls on the state. The storm dropped 27.65 inches (702.1 mm) of rain in Melbourne, making Fay the fourth wettest Florida tropical cyclone. In the end of the month, Hurricane Hanna formed northeast of the Lesser Antilles; its impact will be covered in the next month's summary.
  • Eastern Pacific Ocean – Four named storms developed in the basin during the month, including Tropical Storm Kika, which was the first Central Pacific tropical cyclone since Ioke in 2006. Hurricane Hernan was the strongest hurricane of the month in the basin, reaching Category 3 status while remaining away from land. Tropical Storm Iselle lasted for a few days, but did not affect land. Tropical Storm Julio made landfall on Baja California Sur, producing heavy rainfall and causing two deaths.
  • Northwestern Pacific Ocean – The month began with Tropical Storm Kammuri forming and hitting southern China; the storm killed 140 people, mostly in neighboring Vietnam, and damage totaled $120 million (USD). Tropical Storms Phanfone and Vongfone lasted for a few days out at sea, before Typhoon Nuri formed and struck northern Luzon, causing 12 deaths.
  • 2008 North Indian Ocean cyclone season – A depression formed and struck Odisha.

Member of the month

Cyclone barnstar
Cyclone barnstar

The August member of the month is Cyclonebiskit, who has been on Wikipedia since April. The user helped maintain the current season articles as well as storm articles. Cyclonebiskit has written one GA, and wrote much of one of the recent tropical cyclone articles.

New and improved articles

Storm article statistics

Grade May Jun Jul Aug
FA 41 41 42 46
A 17 18 18 18
GA 129 135 139 147
B 101 96 15 15
C 0 3 98 99
Start 209 208 202 197
Stub 9 9 10 15
Total 506 510 524 537
ω 2.88 2.87 2.94 2.92
percentage
≥Less than C 		43.1 42.5 40.5 39.5
percentage
≥GA or better 		37.0 38.0 38.0 39.3

Version 0.7
This month, several of the WikiProject's articles were selected for the Version 1.0 Editorial Team's Version 0.7 static release. The article selection occurs using an automated process using WikiProjects' quality and importance assessments. For WPTC, this means that 29 articles will be part of this release, an increase from 13 in the previous release. It should be noted that these numbers are based on preliminary data that can change based on updates to the database and corrections to the selection algorithm and WP:1.0's cut-off score.

The list of articles chosen for the release can be seen here. Of the selection, almost half of the articles are already featured, and eleven are good articles. There one B-Class article (1970 Bhola cyclone, two C-Class articles (Hurricane Andrew, Cyclone Nargis), and two Start-Class articles (Pacific typhoon, Hurricane Rita). As these articles will be published in a CD, it is imperative that the project improve them quickly.

The full list of all the WikiProject's articles is also available here. According to that list, WPTC's highest-scoring article—Tropical cyclone—has a score of 1969, which is very good as Canada, the selection's highest-scoring article, has a score of 2,409. That said, Extreme wind warning is the least important article we have, with a score of 227, so we may have to improve it a little bit so it isn't that low...

Number 21, October 4, 2008

The Hurricane Herald

This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. This newsletter covers all of September 2008.

Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve monitoring of the WikiProject's articles.

As a result of an extended Wikibreak, I will not be able to work on the next month's newsletter. Other users are welcome to get it together. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Storm of the month

Hurricane Ike over the Gulf of MexicoHurricane Ike
Hurricane Ike over the Gulf of Mexico

Hurricane Ike was among the costliest Atlantic hurricanes on record, based on a preliminary damage estimate of $31.5 billion (USD). The ninth named storm, fifth hurricane, and third major hurricane of the 2008 season, Ike developed on September 1 in the tropical Atlantic Ocean. Maintaining a generally westward track throughout its duration, Ike reached Category 4 status on the Saffir-Simpson scale, moving across the Turks and Caicos Islands at that intensity before weakening and crossing Cuba; heavy damage was reported in Cuba, which was still recovering from Hurricane Gustav just weeks prior. Gustav later moved across the Gulf of Mexico and struck near Galveston, Texas, where its effects were estimated as the costliest hurricane in Texas history. Further inland, the storm brought high winds and widespread damage, and its impact reached as far as Canada. Throughout its path, Gustav caused over 100 deaths, mostly in Texas and Haiti, and several hundred remain missing.

Other tropical cyclone activity

  • Atlantic Ocean– In addition to Ike, two hurricanes from the previous month, Gustav and Hanna, lasted into September, both striking the United States. Tropical Storm Josephine formed while Ike and Hanna were active; it remained away from land and dissipated four days after forming. The tropics were quiet in the Atlantic for about 10 days after Ike dissipated, until Hurricane Kyle formed north of Hispaniola; its precursor brought heavy rains to the Greater Antilles, and Kyle ultimately became extratropical as it moved into Atlantic Canada. At the end of the month, Tropical Storm Laura formed from a subtropical cyclone far away from land; it persisted until early October, when it lost tropical characteristics to the southeast of Newfoundland.
  • Eastern Pacific Ocean– The month in the eastern Pacific Ocean was the quietest on record, in terms of ACE index. Early in the month, Tropical Storm Karina lasted for two days without affecting land. A few days later, Tropical Storm Lowell formed and later affected the Baja California peninsula and mainland Mexico as a tropical depression; its remnants merged with the remnants of Ike.
  • Western Pacific Ocean– Five named storms developed in the western Pacific, beginning with Typhoon Sinlaku which became a powerful cyclone before weakening and bringing heavy rainfall to Taiwan; there, it caused 11 deaths and heavy damage, and it later affected Japan. The second storm of the month was Typhoon Hagupit, which caused $1 billion (USD) in damage and 68 deaths when it struck China. Typhoon Jangmi was next, which brought further damage and deaths to Taiwan. Two more tropical storms developed during the month; Mekkhala formed in the South China Sea and caused heavy damage in Vietnam, while Higos moved across the Philippines and later struck China.
  • North Indian Ocean– One deep depression formed during the month, which moved ashore in the Indian province of Orissa; it caused 25 deaths from heavy rainfall.

Member of the month

Cyclone barnstar
Cyclone barnstar

The September member of the month is CrazyC83, who has been a steady editor within the project for the past few years. Lately, the user's contributions include maintaining the current season articles, which is the biggest workload for the project. In the past, however, CrazyC83 was very active in writing articles, and was a proponent for all storms in the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season getting articles. Of note was his contributions to Hurricane Juan, which brought it to featured status and later to the main page.

Storm article statistics

Grade Jun Jul Aug Sep
FA 41 42 46 47
A 18 18 18 19
GA 135 139 147 161
B 96 15 15 17
C 3 98 99 107
Start 208 202 197 201
Stub 9 10 15 19
Total 510 524 537 571
ω 2.87 2.94 2.92 2.92
percentage
≥Less than C 		42.5 40.5 39.5 38.5
percentage
≥GA or better 		38.0 38.0 39.3 39.8

Project News
Overall, the project has had a relatively uneventful month. One of the most noteworthy events was the selection of 32 tropical cyclone-related articles, that were chosen as part of Wikipedia 0.7. Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. While many of the selected articles are of featured or good quality, several require substantial cleanup and expansion.

In other news, a handful of changes to project standards have taken place. Per a consensus on the project's talk page, the section of each tropical cyclone article previously entitled "Storm history" has been changed to "Meteorological history", thanks in part to Plasticup's bot which preformed the hundreds of edits to execute the change. In addition, a discussion is ongoing regarding the necessity of List of storms in the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, and similar articles for other seasons.

Tropical Storm Erick (2007)

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Not one edit has been made to Tropical Storm Erick (2007) since its last FAC failed. Why would you nominate it again? ESPECIALLY given the current discussions at WT:FAC and WT:WPTC, it is insulting that you would re-nominate this article only days after its controversial failure. Plasticup T/C 22:42, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

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Please stop spamming my talk page with deletion notices. If you want to speedy-delete an article or group (I have no idea why???) the easiest way would be to join IRC (#wiki-hurricanes on irc.freenode.org) and get one of the WPTC admins to do it. — jdorje (talk) 05:33, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Greater care required when prodding articles

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Evan,

I've just been looking at some of the articles that you've proposed for deletion. Ignoring whether they need to be deleted or not, I think you need to take a bit more care when prodding. These reasons for deletion don't provide enough information and don't make your intentions clear. Please bear the guidelines in mind:

'Tailor your reason to each individual article; generic messages are not helpful. Use an informative edit summary clearly indicating that the article has been nominated for deletion.'

I'm assuming that these articles are part of a procedural mass-delete. If that is the case it might be worth asking an admin to do it in bulk rather than prodding, but if you carry on as you have been please add some background to why the article should be deleted. Even if it is copy-pasted, a brief summary like "Deleting as per discussion on project page" or similar (with a link to the discussion) is much more helpful.

Cheers and happy editing, OBM | blah blah blah 16:07, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Please take greater care when writing articles

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For example, this edit to 2008 Pacific hurricane season adds two sentence fragments and a factual inaccuracy. Your next edit was shorter, but equally destructive. Please take more care in editing, or stop editing entirely. The amount of work we have to do cleaning up after you is much greater than your contributions. Plasticup T/C 15:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Please fix Hurricane Norbert (2008)

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You have created Hurricane Norbert (2008) against the advice of... everyone. If you don't want to see it redirected back to the season article you will need to fix it. Expand the Impact. Create a Preparations section. Write a lead section. Spell check the entire article. Write in complete sentences. Double the length of the Meteorological history. Plasticup T/C 23:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

  • I proposed the article for deletion; it doesn't seem that the article is improving any, and it would seem it doesn't meet the article criteria, according to WP:WPTC anyways. Chukonu xbow (talk) 01:50, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


Proposed deletion of Hurricane Norbert (2008)

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A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Hurricane Norbert (2008), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Chukonu xbow (talk) 01:54, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Why did you recreate Hurricane Boris (2008)?

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I thought that we all agreed non-notable fish spinners would not be given little articles, and then you created Hurricane Boris (2008). Why? Plasticup T/C 15:38, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes... Yellow... see:
The WikiProject Tropical Cyclones East Pacific Basin Article Creation Guidelines.
Type Standard
Season Articles 2 Months Before season starts
Hurricanes dissipated Only if major damage, deaths or retirement occurs.
Hurricanes active Only if major damage, deaths or retirement is likely to occur.
Hurricane is active and a major hurricane Create if there are enough sources - Not 1.
Hurricane was rare and is active Do not publish yet
Hurricane was rare and is dead Only if the cyclone did something weird, or broke a record and has more than 3 sources cited..... if not - do not publish yet
Hurricane has good sources available and a good write up is very possible Only if the article would be well-written, comprehensive, and well-sourced..... if not - do not publish yet
Any of the above but seasons article's section is not well developed As per Wikipedia:SPINOUT

Please sign your contributions on talk pages

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As a courtesy to other editors, it is a Wikipedia guideline to sign your posts on talk pages, user talk pages, and WikiProject pages. To do so, simply add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments. Your user name or IP address (if you are not logged in) and the date will then be automatically added along with a timestamp when you save your comment. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion). For further info, read Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Thank you. I have mentioned this before, but you continue to ignore this courtesy. It makes conversations with you very difficult, because I often cannot tell which statements are yours. Plasticup T/C 01:24, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Editing other user's comments at WT:WPTC

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Please stop your disruptive editing, such as the edit you made to WT:WPTC, here. If your vandalism continues, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Plasticup T/C 01:31, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Tropical Storm Dora (2005)

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Don't assess your own articles, please. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I have quick-failed it's GAN. If the reasons were not obvious, I have enumerated them on the article's talk page. Plasticup T/C 20:59, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Erick (2007)

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Please do not remove legitimate content from articles without explanation and discussion on the talk page. Thank you. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:25, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

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