User talk:2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63
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Kind of a poster child for excessive unsourced college themed promotional content. besides all the cleaning this could use, my question to an administrator is whether some or all the song lyrics are copyright violations or just promotional. Rev/deletion may be called for. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:55, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for starting on this, JJMC89. There's a lot more unsourced content I'm going to remove as promotional and original research, but would prefer to wait until rev/deletion is done for copyright violations. Thoughts welcome. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:36, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Sure. Hack away at it. I've done RD. Let me know if you see any more. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:04, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, JJMC89. My god, that went back a long way. Feel free to remove more. I've pared a lot, but the article could be cleaned to the bone. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:10, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- By the way, that title is a promotional nickname. The real name is Carolina Band [1]. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:12, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Weird Question:
[edit]Could I possibly clean up your User Talk page?
You are the same IPeditor on 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63/64, right? I could easily archive User talk:2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 to User talk:2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63/Archive 65F5 and set up a centralized hub for you. You have collected a lot of awards over the two or so years you have been editing as an IP. I also believe you indicated that Special:Contributions/2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 was your favorite IP to edit as.
Would me sorting it all out for you sound okay? ―|MattLongCT| -Talk-☖ 22:15, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- That's a very kind offer, MattLongCT, and involves intricacies that don't particularly interest me. But I like the idea of somehow combining the accounts' histories, if possible. By the way, it's been much more than two years, and probably hundreds of accounts, beginning with a series of '99' IPs. So be careful what what you volunteer for. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:01, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
A vanity bio, created and maintained for years by COI accounts. I've done a goodly amount of paring the fluff today, but much unsourced remains. The most recent incarnation of the original COI account won't discuss, or cop to his association. More eyes and hands on this appreciated. By the way, does this even meet notability? 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:10, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
March 2019
[edit] Hello, I'm Ericspant. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Ilford County High School have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk. Thanks. Ericspant (talk) 19:32, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.
- Hi Ericspant, I'm sorry to have reverted your edit but I happen to think "Bob the IP" is right. That mush about teachers shouldn't have been in the lead, they were right to remove those external links from the body of the article, and they removed sentences like "successful and very popular" which is just plain promotional language, and removed non notable people from the notable alumni section.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:37, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, HickoryOughtShirt?4. The reversion and warning were ill-advised, and appear to have come from an inexperienced editor. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:54, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- And it's not a particularly good sign that the new editor hasn't responded or acknowledged the error. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:20, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- There are several inept reversions in the last day. The series here are cringe inducing [2], and suggest some intervention is inevitable. 208.105.50.34 (talk) 13:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- When I get home I’m filing an ANI. Lots of unwarranted warnings to good editors. Unless either JJMC89, TonyBallioni or Drmies want to check into this before then. 208.105.50.34 (talk) 13:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. Serial Number got it right; the account is malicious. I’m guessing someone who’s done this before. Block, please, and revert their warnings to innocent accounts. 208.105.50.34 (talk) 15:53, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Ericspant, I'm sorry to have reverted your edit but I happen to think "Bob the IP" is right. That mush about teachers shouldn't have been in the lead, they were right to remove those external links from the body of the article, and they removed sentences like "successful and very popular" which is just plain promotional language, and removed non notable people from the notable alumni section.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:37, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
I’d appreciate help. Persistent introduction of unsourced and unencyclopedic content that reads like it’s copied. Thanks from 99/Bob in New York. 208.105.50.34 (talk) 01:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
A little snowstorm
[edit]and I'm knocked off again. Back home with a new IP. 2601:188:180:1481:519F:8A6:A9D6:A931 (talk) 20:11, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
A hagiography now, filled with promotional blurbs. Save anything or revert to last acceptable version? 2601:188:180:1481:519F:8A6:A9D6:A931 (talk) 04:26, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
March 2019
[edit] This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at Camorra, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 14:18, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.
- You've restored mass copyright violations several times. Let's discuss who can be blocked. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:21, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- It is only a violation if everything was copied directly from its source, which it doesn't seem to be! And instead of removing copyrighted text like the way you are doing it (which needs concensus) you should rewrite it so that it is no longer a direct copy of material. However, simply removing a lot of content like this may get you blocked from editing! Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 14:29, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- There is no need for consensus to remove copyright violation content. It is in no way incumbent upon me to rewrite it. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:30, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- If you dont want to rewrite it, add the proper tags so that others will, you dont have some kind of final say in whether such info should be rewritten or simply removed, you act as if you think you have ownership of the article which i assure you nobody has! Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 14:48, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- After warning me of a block twice, and restoring copyright violation three times, you may decide to rethink your approach to this, complete with exclamation points. Please don't post here again, but discuss at ANI. Thank you, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:54, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- See follow up here [3] and here [4]. Much appreciated. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:29, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar |
Thankyou for your diligence in protecting Wikipedia against copyright violations. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:37, 8 March 2019 (UTC) |
- Thank you very much, Ritchie333. And thank you for all your assistance in the same vein. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:25, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your eyes on...
[edit]Jaha Dukureh. Another new account added the copyrighted content back this morning, in what is becoming a pattern of edits to this page. I left them a COI notice—we'll see if they respond. /wiae /tlk 12:30, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Wiae. I saw that, and was going to revert. Glad you got there first. Next step would be page protection. 2601:188:180:1481:6C38:7734:5599:B3E5 (talk) 12:56, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
I have no idea why my IP changed overnight
[edit]No rain. No snow. No power interruptions. Perhaps a vole bumped an underground cable. 2601:188:180:1481:6C38:7734:5599:B3E5 (talk) 12:55, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
More eyes on this spamicle, please. Numerous COI accounts, removing well-earned maintenance templates. 2601:188:180:1481:6C38:7734:5599:B3E5 (talk) 13:31, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
- It looks like a meat puppet farm at work. 2601:188:180:1481:6C38:7734:5599:B3E5 (talk) 13:40, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
- I stubbed this one due to copyvio. AfD will handle the rest. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:29, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
And this university spam. I've removed some of the copied content, but there appears to be much more. Maybe someone can take a scalpel to this, and determine how far back the rev/deletion goes. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:6C38:7734:5599:B3E5 (talk) 18:26, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
- I did some redaction and some trimming, but it could use more work. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:30, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, JJMC89. I trimmed some more. Late here. 2601:188:180:1481:6C38:7734:5599:B3E5 (talk) 06:37, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Oy. Another press release, riddled with copyright violations. JJMC89, have a look if so moved. But not on a Saturday night, for god's sake. Who's editing at this hour? 2601:188:180:1481:6C38:7734:5599:B3E5 (talk) 01:05, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- I made a start on this, but it needs some more help. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:31, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Taken this to ANI. Would appreciate further thoughts on this and related articles. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:35, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
- I just added a reply to that discussion. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:42, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, Oshwah. There's a lot of clean up to do, but I've no interest in edit warring. There may be a pattern of ownership. I'm going offline for a bit. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:44, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, definitely don't edit war. ;-) Most of the people he's listed seem to be fine; he's making good edits and he's definitely doing well compared to the many other editors I normally am asked to handle and work with. However, if there's an issue... then there's an issue, and we have the responsibility to try and fix them and improve the articles and the project. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:49, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
- To the contrary, Oshwah; the persons I removed from Korean Americans not only don't have stand alone articles, there's little reason to believe they will any time soon. Many are supported by one source, often only proving that they're journalists. Period. One is supported by linkedin. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:59, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'm noticing this too as I look through these lists in-depth... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:08, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
- To the contrary, Oshwah; the persons I removed from Korean Americans not only don't have stand alone articles, there's little reason to believe they will any time soon. Many are supported by one source, often only proving that they're journalists. Period. One is supported by linkedin. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:59, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, definitely don't edit war. ;-) Most of the people he's listed seem to be fine; he's making good edits and he's definitely doing well compared to the many other editors I normally am asked to handle and work with. However, if there's an issue... then there's an issue, and we have the responsibility to try and fix them and improve the articles and the project. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:49, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, Oshwah. There's a lot of clean up to do, but I've no interest in edit warring. There may be a pattern of ownership. I'm going offline for a bit. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:44, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Could use a shave. The only question is how much of the unsourced criminal accusations constitute WP:BLP violations. 2601:188:180:1481:DC58:C3F7:4619:B4D9 (talk) 03:00, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi Drmies, I think you rev/deleted edits here in the recent past. Looks like it could use more. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:11, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks 99; I appreciate it. Yes, that's pretty sad. Drmies (talk) 23:44, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Much obliged. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:04, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
I don't think I can make substantial cuts to this promotional piece for the subject's book, without getting reverted for vandalism. More eyes and thoughts appreciated. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:25, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- I've heavily trimmed it. — JJMC89 (T·C) 21:08, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Brilliant. Thank you, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:45, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
Sinai Akiba Academy
[edit]Hi there. Nothing's been plagiarized from copyrighted materials. Where do you see anything that suggests that? Thanks.Egw1119 (talk) 06:48, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- That's quite moot at this point. Non diploma granting schools are seldom notable and I see nothing to indicate this one is an exception. Further, the article consisted of poorly sourced claims of excellence and lists of non notable people, things we do not include in school articles, and was highly promotional. I've redirected it to the education section of the article on Westwood. The mention of its existence there is sufficient coverage for this subject. John from Idegon (talk) 16:09, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, John from Idegon. It was a press release, and if largely copied may have qualified for speedy deletion. Your rationale works. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:47, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- What are you guys talking about? I wrote the entire article from scratch over the course of 3 months. Nothing was copied from any press releases and the point of Wikipedia is to list facts. Let me know anything on the page that is not a fact and it will be removed. But the page in its entirety should be returned. Thanks.Egw1119 (talk) 18:20, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- A number of passages turned up exact hits from the school's website--perhaps you wrote that, too. The point of Wikipedia is not to 'list facts.' It is to include information about subjects that meet our guidelines for notability, written in a neutral tone and supported by WP:RELIABLE sources. As mentioned already, per WP:COI, conflict of interest or paid editing must be divulged. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:29, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- And per John from Idegon's point--and something I didn't fully realize last night--the school runs only up to the eight grade. We very rarely include separate articles on grade schools. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:50, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- I understand your points and there are very valid counterpoints to each of them. You don't seem to be inclined to listen to them though and seem to have pre-determined your decisions. Can you let me know how I pursue this through the Wikipedia system or if you do genuinely want to listen to the evidence? Cheers. 68.95.191.9 (talk) 18:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'm curious what evidence you think is needed. As has been explained, the subjects of articles (no matter how factual) have to pass WP:N. Most schools do not. Further, we require independent, reliable sources and often, those are hard to come by to make any sort of claim. Finally, if a school administrator wrote text for their school's website then wrote the same text into Wikipedia, we would assess that the school owns the copyright for the text and cannot be re-used here. We assume copyright exists unless the material is specifically marked public domain or Creative Commons. Since there's no rush in writing the article, we can wait ten or twenty years until journalists and academics write the sort of material we'd need for sourcing and a Wikipedian could draft fresh, original wording using those sources. Since Wikipedia is so often mis-used by businesses and other groups, we've had to avoid being co-opted as a promotional tool in order to protect both our reputation as a website and our readers. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:27, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- Also, it really doesn't work when WP:SPAs come here without interest in or knowledge of the encyclopedia's purpose, but solely to promote an entity. And refuse to address obvious conflict of interest, per WP:COI. Put another way, agents for the school have little credibility, and need not continue discussion here. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:34, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- Right, agreed entirely. But I'm not an agent from the school nor a member of their community nor has anything been copied from their website. If you want to let me know specific problems, I'm happy to address. But I've spent a decent amount of time trying to contribute to the Wikipedia goal by contributing this article and want to make sure it gets approved. What exactly is your problem with the article? You literally linked the article to an article about an identical catholic school that goes K-8. So obviously that shouldn't be a problem, and many many outside sources have been quoted on the wikipedia page. Thanks.Egw1119 (talk) 15:59, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
"an identical catholic school that goes K-8. So obviously that shouldn't be a problem"
No, you're making a WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS argument. Please see WP:NSCHOOLS. I still don't understand why you are"contributing this article and want to make sure it gets approved"
if you don't have a CoI. You could choose a different subject upon which to write. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:11, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'm curious what evidence you think is needed. As has been explained, the subjects of articles (no matter how factual) have to pass WP:N. Most schools do not. Further, we require independent, reliable sources and often, those are hard to come by to make any sort of claim. Finally, if a school administrator wrote text for their school's website then wrote the same text into Wikipedia, we would assess that the school owns the copyright for the text and cannot be re-used here. We assume copyright exists unless the material is specifically marked public domain or Creative Commons. Since there's no rush in writing the article, we can wait ten or twenty years until journalists and academics write the sort of material we'd need for sourcing and a Wikipedian could draft fresh, original wording using those sources. Since Wikipedia is so often mis-used by businesses and other groups, we've had to avoid being co-opted as a promotional tool in order to protect both our reputation as a website and our readers. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:27, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- I understand your points and there are very valid counterpoints to each of them. You don't seem to be inclined to listen to them though and seem to have pre-determined your decisions. Can you let me know how I pursue this through the Wikipedia system or if you do genuinely want to listen to the evidence? Cheers. 68.95.191.9 (talk) 18:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- It doesn't come close to meeting NSCHOOL. It doesn't meet WP:GNG. It doesn't meet WP:ORG. Please someone point me to the school he's referring to in his OSE arguement so I can review it. Egw1119, I don't see what your issue is. This school does not meet notability standards. It's not going to have an article. Are you perhaps a student at this school? Although some 6-8th graders may be able to grasp the nuanced concepts involved in determining notability, most cannot. And you certainly seem to be either not understanding or not listening. John from Idegon (talk) 16:19, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Chris troutman and John from Idegon, for responding in my absence. Don't waste any more time on this--I made clear that I no longer welcomed discussion on the subject here, and the user blew right through that stop sign. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:34, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- What are you guys talking about? I wrote the entire article from scratch over the course of 3 months. Nothing was copied from any press releases and the point of Wikipedia is to list facts. Let me know anything on the page that is not a fact and it will be removed. But the page in its entirety should be returned. Thanks.Egw1119 (talk) 18:20, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, John from Idegon. It was a press release, and if largely copied may have qualified for speedy deletion. Your rationale works. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:47, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
That is an article on a house of worship. John from Idegon (talk) 02:03, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Arthuriana
[edit]It occurs to me that Drmies may be able to provide some insight re: the romantic life of Guinevere [5]. More thoughts welcome. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:40, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
This could use some administrative clean up. Recent edits by a COI account have added copyright violations of company press releases. So it's the usual promotional and plagiarism all in one tidy bucket. Perhaps the copied content goes back further still; at any rate, probably some rev/deletion warranted. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:58, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- Holy moly. I can't look into the copyvio charges right now, but that article is way over the top, yes. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 21:57, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, JJMC89, for the reversion. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:36, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Drmies, per your unheeded warning, please block the COI account. I'm sure they've added more copyright violation with the most recent edits. thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:03, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Voila. Drmies (talk) 01:02, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. But I liked the original version of that groove better [6]. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:07, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- I do like that one, a lot--thanks for the link. I just ordered a Black Sunday t-shirt -- AND I JUST GET WARM -- on Amazon. OK I do love LL, from the old days. DYK that I got "I'm Bad" on 45? Drmies (talk) 01:21, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Oh my, when we say '45,' we really date ourselves. And don't tell anyone, but this is what I'm listening to this week. On one of those CD things that are also passe. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:27, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- PING User:78.26 PING someone just called you old, 78. BTW, 78, meet 99. 99, 78. Drmies (talk) 01:31, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Ha! I just went to the doctor, and he called me old also. Guess which one hurts more? heh. Besides 78s, I also have a few thousand 45s, including that one, somewhere. I believe I have already met 99, if he's the incredibly productive editor who refuses to register I'm thinking of. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 23:50, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, 78.26. I'll offer obvious advice: get a new doctor. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:00, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- Ha! I just went to the doctor, and he called me old also. Guess which one hurts more? heh. Besides 78s, I also have a few thousand 45s, including that one, somewhere. I believe I have already met 99, if he's the incredibly productive editor who refuses to register I'm thinking of. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 23:50, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Not gonna stir up any trouble here. I'm mellow tonight. [7]. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:37, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- PING User:78.26 PING someone just called you old, 78. BTW, 78, meet 99. 99, 78. Drmies (talk) 01:31, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Oh my, when we say '45,' we really date ourselves. And don't tell anyone, but this is what I'm listening to this week. On one of those CD things that are also passe. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:27, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- I do like that one, a lot--thanks for the link. I just ordered a Black Sunday t-shirt -- AND I JUST GET WARM -- on Amazon. OK I do love LL, from the old days. DYK that I got "I'm Bad" on 45? Drmies (talk) 01:21, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. But I liked the original version of that groove better [6]. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:07, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
John from Idegon, here's one that was a good article ten years ago, and is now heavy with non notable student mention. I don't have the will to cull through it just now. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:13, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'll take a look, but I doubt I've got the will to do much nuanced editing there either. There's quite a bit of problematic editing going on currently on Kansas school articles and I haven't the will or strength to start hacking away at it. Thanks for the tip, Bob. You got good lookin, as they say on the streets. John from Idegon (talk) 01:50, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- I had occasion to look at your contributions and see you've gotten at some of the Kansas issues already. Thanks. (Needed to copy your IP to template our friend from LA above, and that's easiest to do from the contribution log.) John from Idegon (talk) 01:56, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- It isn't within a long jump of good article status anymore. I did some trimming of promotional content and a scroll of non notable coaches and student athletes. It's still a promo for the school. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:54, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- I had occasion to look at your contributions and see you've gotten at some of the Kansas issues already. Thanks. (Needed to copy your IP to template our friend from LA above, and that's easiest to do from the contribution log.) John from Idegon (talk) 01:56, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Do we need, especially in the Columbus article, long lists of non notable members? A lot of COI here. More eyes appreciated. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:22, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, JJMC89. If I did that I'd be hauled off to block court for vandalism. The COI account will be much peeved. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:10, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
JJMC89, could use some help over there. Thank you, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:05, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- I honestly wish there was a way to thank IP editors. Maybe that should be added to the Wikimedia wish list. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 04:06, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Blocked — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:08, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, both. I arrived late to the party on that one, HickoryOughtShirt?4 and could imagine your aggravation. Been through it a thousand times too. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:11, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Some admin assistance?
[edit]Drmies, JJMC89 , Oshwah or TonyBallioni, sorry to ping you on a weekend morning, but I'm not going to spend the rest of my day reverting a cartoon article vandal, and there's nobody at AiV for the last hour. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:19, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Eh, fuck it. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:45, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- It's the weekend, and in a lot of the US, the first nice weather in months. They're likely all playing. A post at AN usually does the trick. Take care, Bob. John from Idegon (talk) 16:58, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Went there, John from Idegon. You can see what good that's done. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:19, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- We had a decent snow last night, nearly melted by now. Any administrators playing outside would do well to get their scrawny pale frames back to the keyboard. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:07, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- I blocked the account. Please ping me if more show up. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, as always, JJMC89. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:55, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- You know I'm usually off on the weekends. Hiked almost five miles yesterday on steep terrain--almost too much for my old body. Drmies (talk) 15:04, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- Well, that's absolutely no excuse, Drmies. And what's an academic doing hiking five miles? Three miles in Manhattan pretty much does me in now. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:08, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- You know I'm usually off on the weekends. Hiked almost five miles yesterday on steep terrain--almost too much for my old body. Drmies (talk) 15:04, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, as always, JJMC89. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:55, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- I blocked the account. Please ping me if more show up. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- We had a decent snow last night, nearly melted by now. Any administrators playing outside would do well to get their scrawny pale frames back to the keyboard. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:07, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Went there, John from Idegon. You can see what good that's done. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:19, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- It's the weekend, and in a lot of the US, the first nice weather in months. They're likely all playing. A post at AN usually does the trick. Take care, Bob. John from Idegon (talk) 16:58, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hey, sorry for the delay responding to your ping, Bob. I was busy with real life obligations and I'm just now getting myself all caught up with all of the Wikipedia messages, pings, emails, requests for help, etc that I received. Feel free to message me directly by leaving a new discussion on my user talk page if you need any input or assistance; you're always welcome to ping me here (of course), but I figured I'd just mention that you're also welcome on my user talk page as well (in the event that your pings here go unanswered). :-) It looks like JJMC89 took care of the matter (awesome!), so I'll hold off on looking into this issue unless things continue (just let me know if they do). Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:43, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
On a different note, I'm never certain how to deal with bios like this--with visual artists I'm better equipped to discern notable and non notable exhibitions, but less so when it comes to culling works and recordings. Surely not all the awards are notable, nor the lectures. A lot of puff/cruft, tended for years by one account. Thoughts? Melcous, I haven't heard from you in forever--you might be great with this. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:16, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- It has been awhile! Will have a look ... Cheers, Melcous (talk) 21:54, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hope you've been well. I've started on this, with a copy of the musician guidelines at hand. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:56, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'm doing well thanks, I hope you are too. It's nice to bump into you again in a couple of places where our edits overlap, I always appreciate your input - and TBH you have helped me to not make assumptions about IP editors, which obviously you do still have to deal with :) Cheers, Melcous (talk) 03:36, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Good, and thank you for helping out on this one. Let me know if I can return the favor. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:05, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'm doing well thanks, I hope you are too. It's nice to bump into you again in a couple of places where our edits overlap, I always appreciate your input - and TBH you have helped me to not make assumptions about IP editors, which obviously you do still have to deal with :) Cheers, Melcous (talk) 03:36, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hope you've been well. I've started on this, with a copy of the musician guidelines at hand. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:56, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks! S0091 (talk) 01:07, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- You're welcome, S0091. Thank you for catching the defamatory. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:08, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello I recently revised a page on Carmex and I was wondering why you deleted it. I posted it for more information about what the company offers and I was not in any way trying to market the product. I am just trying to do this for an important assignment.Madisonlucchino (talk) 14:41, 24 March 2019 (UTC) ML
- Hi Madisonlucchino, and thank you for editing on Wikipedia. As explained, your edits were deleted because they read as promotional [8]. Sentences like This product provides a long lasting protective barrier to help promote healing; The Comfort Care style restores comfort with long-lasting moisture. These lip sticks are available in the three flavors Sugar Plum, Mixed Berry, and Watermelon Blast; The Daily Care style moisturizes and protects lips. Depending on the flavor, the lip balm is available in squeezable tubes or sticks. These styles can be purchased in a variety of flavors which include Cherry, Strawberry, Wintergreen, Vanilla, Tropical Colada, Cupcake Batter, Honeydew Melon, Orange Dream, and Triple Berry Breeze just aren't appropriate for an encyclopedia. I'll leave a welcome template at your talk page. This provides links to guidelines that more fully explain how the encyclopedia works. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:54, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Aside from the obvious mass of unsourced promotional content, which I haven't yet much dented, there is probably a whole lot of copyright violation here. Most, if not all, of the history and headmaster sections looks to have been taken from here [9]. Any savvy admins want to clear this up and rev/delete? After that I'll return and pare more unsourced puffery. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:59, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- I've nuked that section and the history. Let me know if you see any more while you're depuffing. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:40, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- Brilliant. Thank you, JJMC89. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:20, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
This needs some eyes--COI concerns, and copyright violations that will require some rev/deletion. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:15, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yep, with a side of "vandalism" — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:27, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- WTF, as we say in the editing business. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:30, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- And thank you very much, as we also say. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:35, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
OPI Products
[edit]Hello so I received your notice that my information didn’t have enough sources and you said that if I cited them it would be able to be published. So I sourced all of the information that I added in the article. Madisonlucchino (talk) 12:58, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- GreenMeansGo was right. When multiple experienced editors are reverting you with clear explanations, it's a sign. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:20, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
This could use more eyes for copyright issues and general promotional tone. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:57, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Persistent addition of copied content. Rev/deletion may be warranted. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:09, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
My apologies for the first violation. I am the author of that text on the ISU website and simply forgot to take the step of getting their approval to use the text. However, I'm not sure why the second revision was removed, as I paraphrased the text from the original and again cited the source. Do you want me to get permission from ISU to use that text, or is there another way that I should correct the Wikipedia article without getting blocked? Thank you! Srcloud iastate (talk) 18:12, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Srcloud iastate, I see that you did alter from the original, but it's still probably close enough to engage WP:PARAPHRASE. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:00, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Mention
[edit]Hey, I didn't think IP users could be pinged, but I tried just in case. Just to let you know I have mentioned you on Talk:New Zealand Law Students' Association. Cheers, Melcous (talk) 02:01, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Melcous. Just saw this now, and commented there. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:13, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- And for what it's worth, there's a similar situation at UNSW Faculty of Law, with a number of non notables listed there, some with very thin references, i.e., linkedin or links to law firms. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:20, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've had a look at that one but there is a current discussion on the talk page that you or any other WP:TPSs might like to contribute to. Melcous (talk) 12:53, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- I will, later. The COI account there may be the subject of an ANI report soon, given the persistent accusations of vandalism and recent WP:POINTY edits. Thank you, Melcous, and cheers. 2601:188:180:1481:BCC3:E1F9:1205:2993 (talk) 14:40, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've had a look at that one but there is a current discussion on the talk page that you or any other WP:TPSs might like to contribute to. Melcous (talk) 12:53, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
Wow. For them that has time. Way long, inadequately sourced, an impressive image farm, and could use a copyright check. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:03, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Rev/delete admins
[edit]A note to self: [10]. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:21, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- May I also suggest #wikipedia-en-revdel connect on IRC? Your requests will get fast admin attention, and nothing that draws unwanted attention has to be posted on-wiki. EclipseDude (Chase Totality) 08:27, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
My desktop is useless right now, and I’ll be away today. Perhaps someone can revert and fix this publicist’s promotional mess. Thank you. 2601:188:180:1481:BD6D:464:5DED:458E (talk) 10:59, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Orangemike and Melcous. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:10, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
A long history of defamatory content--I'm guessing same user with multiple IPs. Besides resuming protection, perhaps rev/deletion going back at least a few months is in order. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:12, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, Drmies. The rev/deletion probably needs to go further, at least to March 30. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:28, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Although there is this [11]. Not for the intro, but.... 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:32, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Oh, now I see what they were doing: those were headlines. Well, we should always err on the side of caution in BLPs, and here we are dealing with a truthwarrior. Drmies (talk) 14:52, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, there are two separate issues there. The first was the disruptive stacking of negative content in the lede. The second is whether to include any of it in a balanced manner, or ignore it as news until wrongdoing is established. Thanks, Drmies. 2601:188:180:1481:7C87:A490:3A30:3429 (talk) 18:49, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Oh, now I see what they were doing: those were headlines. Well, we should always err on the side of caution in BLPs, and here we are dealing with a truthwarrior. Drmies (talk) 14:52, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you
[edit]Thanks for reverting vandalism to my user talk page. It seems that I am having to contend with either sockpuppets or meatpuppets because I reverted vandalism to Link protection. Further steps will likely be needed to stop this. Donner60 (talk) 02:49, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Sure, Donner60. I can request talk page protection if you like. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:51, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Under the circumstances, I think that is a good idea since there seems to be several accounts involved. I could do it if you think that would be better. I do think it would emphasize the degree of the problem here if another user did it. Donner60 (talk) 02:55, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- I’d be happy to—unfortunately, my desktop just froze, which it’s been doing lately. Please go ahead, if my computer doesn’t get right soon. 2601:188:180:1481:ACB8:4277:6DE8:DB8B (talk) 03:06, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- We may have gotten them all blocked or in the case of an IP address reported by now. So perhaps it is not necessary? Donner60 (talk) 03:07, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Just saw your message which immediately preceded mine. I hope your computer problem clears up. Very annoying when that happens. In view of the possible end of the problem, I think I will wait to see if some more vandalism shows up. Thanks again for your help and support. Donner60 (talk) 03:12, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- The talk page vandalism is a minor bother, and in its way, acknowledgment of a job well done. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:ACB8:4277:6DE8:DB8B (talk) 03:16, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Back up, in another incarnation. 2601:188:180:1481:ECAF:AB28:1C0D:218A (talk) 04:36, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- The talk page vandalism is a minor bother, and in its way, acknowledgment of a job well done. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:ACB8:4277:6DE8:DB8B (talk) 03:16, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Just saw your message which immediately preceded mine. I hope your computer problem clears up. Very annoying when that happens. In view of the possible end of the problem, I think I will wait to see if some more vandalism shows up. Thanks again for your help and support. Donner60 (talk) 03:12, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- We may have gotten them all blocked or in the case of an IP address reported by now. So perhaps it is not necessary? Donner60 (talk) 03:07, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- I’d be happy to—unfortunately, my desktop just froze, which it’s been doing lately. Please go ahead, if my computer doesn’t get right soon. 2601:188:180:1481:ACB8:4277:6DE8:DB8B (talk) 03:06, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Under the circumstances, I think that is a good idea since there seems to be several accounts involved. I could do it if you think that would be better. I do think it would emphasize the degree of the problem here if another user did it. Donner60 (talk) 02:55, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Standard school vandalism, except for defamatory content dropped in about a teacher. Needs rev/deletion. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:7C87:A490:3A30:3429 (talk) 19:02, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
JJMC89, could you look at this when you have time? In the last few weeks multiple accounts dolloped on some BLP violations, and the recently deleted large tract under 'controversies' (my favorite section), appears to have been copied verbatim from its source article at Real Clear. So, some rev/deletion looks appropriate. Thank you, 2601:188:180:1481:7C87:A490:3A30:3429 (talk) 01:10, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, JJMC89. 2601:188:180:1481:7C87:A490:3A30:3429 (talk) 02:50, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- No problem. 215p97tugjq3945 may be connected to Jones. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:52, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Indeed, but on that edit they were justified, even if the rationale wasn't what was intended. 2601:188:180:1481:7C87:A490:3A30:3429 (talk) 02:56, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
What to do
[edit]To no avail I posted a report to AiV [12] about Truckersfable (talk · contribs), an account specializing in copyright violation and promotional edits, and was advised to take it to ANI [13]. My response was ignored [14]. The ANI noticeboard is now protected because of persistent vandalism. Any administrative assistance, including rev/deletion of copyright infringement at multiple articles, will be appreciated. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:14, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- I've blocked and done some revdel. If I missed anything, let me know. — JJMC89 (T·C) 21:42, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I'll take a look. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:02, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yep, JJMC89, there's more. [15] was copied verbatim from https://www.murraykyleoakley.com/. What's more, there was an IP editing there before the registered account; quacks a lot like it, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's further plagiarism. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:09, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Gone, plus some from an IP. — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:28, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- That entire article is roughly 475 nautical miles south of what could be called an encyclopedia article and dead smack in the middle of the Chamber of Commerce's office. Geez. John from Idegon (talk) 02:12, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Amen, John from Idegon. Like most every other city, university and high school article. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:09, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- That entire article is roughly 475 nautical miles south of what could be called an encyclopedia article and dead smack in the middle of the Chamber of Commerce's office. Geez. John from Idegon (talk) 02:12, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Gone, plus some from an IP. — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:28, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yep, JJMC89, there's more. [15] was copied verbatim from https://www.murraykyleoakley.com/. What's more, there was an IP editing there before the registered account; quacks a lot like it, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's further plagiarism. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:09, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I'll take a look. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:02, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
While I'm at it
[edit]This was a surprise to me [16]. And if anyone would like to wade into the promotional thicket that is Adhik Kadam, please do. There's all sorts of COI around the bio and related articles, though the bio seems to be by far the most problematic. The subject appears, by the way, to be absolutely wonderful. The article is another story. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:19, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Throws hands up
[edit]Couldn't get page protection for this [17], or a block on the 175 IP. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:29, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Yet another avatar
[edit]Thank you, Materialscientist. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:3077:824F:EBFB:EA20 (talk) 02:12, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
Vinita Chatterjee
[edit]Thank you for your help at Vinita Chatterjee. I lament that I have to get a page protection set up, so that will hamper you as an IP editor, but the flare-up is getting a bit ridiculous. I'm going to try to get other eyes on it via the help desk. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:30, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Sure, Cyphoidbomb. I asked for page protection. Looks like a sock farm growing. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:34, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for requesting page protection. For what it's worth, I filed the long-winded Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/VeronicaJoseph5. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:34, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you; I didn't see that. My expectation is that we'll see a rinse and repeat when protection expires, with another set of new accounts. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:37, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for requesting page protection. For what it's worth, I filed the long-winded Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/VeronicaJoseph5. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:34, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
More eyes on this new bio will be appreciated. I've attempted to pare a small amount of promotional and copied content, so there may be a need for rev/deletion, and a check for further such indiscretions. I've also left notices for the article's creator. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:05, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
New message from Serial Number 54129
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I totally forgot about this; but, albeit belatedly, there's no reason for (a lack of) genius to be recognised :) Hope all's well! ——SerialNumber54129 10:33, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Might benefit from some more eyes. Are there meatpuppets stirring the pot there, or just a number of dedicated editors interested in a limited scope? 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:08, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
Another sloppy user of rollback privilege
[edit]Please see the edit history for Agaba Perez (talk · contribs), beside the several edits I reverted, and other obvious mistakes like at Beyoncé. JJMC89 or Drmies, please have a look. I'm happy to go to ANI to request revocation of rollback, too. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:16, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- ANI seems to have this under control for now. I'll check back later. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:15, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your diligence B0B and for picking up my mistake! Melcous (talk) 11:57, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
April 2019
[edit] I noticed that you intentionally undid the reversion I made in my previous edits without my notice.You gave a reason the the section was unsourced which is ok.You would have placed a tag other than blanking the section.The next time your edit is reverted, please discuss issues on the talk page.Agaba Perez (talk) 01:21, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'm requesting that your rollback privilege be revoked, per the above section. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:23, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- I've also asked them why they used rollback, I left a message on their talk page. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:27, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. It looks like there's a lot more where that came from, if one reviews the edit history. Probably not intentionally disruptive, but a case of just not being able to discern the difference between legitimate edits and vandalism. Shouldn't have been gifted with rollback. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:31, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yea, that case is not even a case where rollback should be used. (On a side note, can I interview you at TheWikiWizard about editing as an IP? I'll give you more details later if you accept, if you don't want to, it's totally fine :) . --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:33, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. It looks like there's a lot more where that came from, if one reviews the edit history. Probably not intentionally disruptive, but a case of just not being able to discern the difference between legitimate edits and vandalism. Shouldn't have been gifted with rollback. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:31, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Thegooduser: Reported that user to ANI. SemiHypercube 01:51, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Left a note at ani. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 02:04, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Thegooduser: Reported that user to ANI. SemiHypercube 01:51, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
For those interested in biographies, there appears to be a lot here that's off-topic; it may be that entire sections giving national history can be cut down or eliminated. Also I'm wondering whether there's any copy/paste. COI is possible as well. Thanks for having a look. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:53, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
- Melcous, thank you. You're Wikipedia royalty. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:10, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- Awh, thank you! You'd already done much of the heavy lifting! Melcous (talk) 02:12, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Would appreciate thoughts on this. The COI is obvious, and the addition of unsourced content isn’t acceptable. But the gentleman’s published research is often cited by others, so I don’t want to be overzealous in my reversions and cleanup. Thanks. 2601:188:180:1481:4416:1B28:44E6:B6AC (talk) 13:28, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
And I’d appreciate eyes on this, with perhaps a lock against long term warring. Persistent addition of non notable person and court case. 2601:188:180:1481:351E:6BF0:773:B95 (talk) 19:15, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- JJMC89 or Drmies? Thank you. 2601:188:180:1481:351E:6BF0:773:B95 (talk) 19:17, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- Or John. Drmies (talk) 21:48, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- Not John any time soon, Drmies, he's been blocked. One of my favorite colleagues, too. Anyway, I think the article needs protection. This goes back a ways. 2601:188:180:1481:F0D4:6F62:5E25:2367 (talk) 00:37, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
- Or John. Drmies (talk) 21:48, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Sorry to be using so many avatars today
[edit]Ah, well. Hope to return to this IP soon. 2601:188:180:1481:F0D4:6F62:5E25:2367 (talk) 00:05, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm whether the 'names' section was copied from another sight or publication? Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:18, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
- For instance, which came first [18]? 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks!
[edit]Thanks for reverting the vandalism! --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:04, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- You're very welcome. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:04, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Oh, and how did you see my basepage being vandalized without a watchlist? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:05, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- It came up on recent changes. I noticed an IP deleting extensive content from a registered account's page. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:08, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Oh, and how did you see my basepage being vandalized without a watchlist? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:05, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
*sigh*
[edit]JJMC89, Oshwah or Drmies, any help you can provide with an IP hopping serial vandal will be appreciated. I can't report at ANI because it's protected, but it looks like dozens of nuisance edits may need reversion. Is a range block possible?
- 2601:601:8380:23f1:98bc:e264:bbce:e406 (talk · contribs)
- 2601:601:8380:23f1:e866:72db:2842:6eef (talk · contribs)
- 2601:601:8380:23F1:CD02:918D:4A62:F50 (talk · contribs)
Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:03, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- I've blocked the /64 range. — JJMC89 (T·C) 23:29, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:31, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, I would have acted more quickly, but it's all Yankee cities that this d-bag is vandalizing, so jurisdiction is a tricky point. Drmies (talk) 23:33, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Not so fast, 'Bama. They went after some western locations, too. And I'm not certain if it was straight vandalism or OCD. There was an impressive determination to round off every decimal. Either way, it wasn't working here. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:49, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Right on. People with determination are often a nuisance. Drmies (talk) 14:46, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
- Not so fast, 'Bama. They went after some western locations, too. And I'm not certain if it was straight vandalism or OCD. There was an impressive determination to round off every decimal. Either way, it wasn't working here. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:49, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, I would have acted more quickly, but it's all Yankee cities that this d-bag is vandalizing, so jurisdiction is a tricky point. Drmies (talk) 23:33, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:31, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry I was late to the party here... glad to see that this was taken care of. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:18, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
Hey
[edit]Sorry about that, I got your IP confused with the vandals' IP..
You really should make an account, would make things easier for all of us.
ThanksRockstonetalk to me! 02:45, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. As you can see, the problem was not my editing as an IP, but the reflexive credit given to a registered account used for vandalism. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:57, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, please conform your behavior to our biases, so our biases remain correct. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:22, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Well, yeah. Cheers, Chris troutman. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:24, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, please conform your behavior to our biases, so our biases remain correct. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:22, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
Question re: similar accounts and mass of junk edits
[edit]Bbb23, JJMC89 or Drmies, I'd appreciate thoughts on this, and would be happy to take it to ANI at your suggestion. There are at least two issues, the first being possibly related accounts and block evasion:
- DallasSucks (talk · contribs)
- Classic-Cartoons (talk · contribs)
- WelcomeToTheWikihouse (talk · contribs)
- 99.168.98.37 (talk · contribs)
And maybe a lot more. The second issue is the collective stack of unsourced junk edits. I'd like some input before going down the line and doing mass reversions, but my take is that we don't have plot descriptions and waste pages like this [19] just so incompetent users can add, um, dreck. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:57, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- Regarding just the socking issue. DallasSucks was soft-blocked; therefore, WelcomeToTheWikihouse would not be a sock.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:05, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Bbb. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:09, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
tag from Classic Rock Society, which you proposed for deletion, because its deletion has previously been contested or viewed as controversial. Proposed deletion is not for controversial deletions. For this reason, proposed deletion is disallowed on articles that have previously been de-prodded, even by the page's creator, or which have previously been listed on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{proposed deletion}}
template back to the article, but feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! —KuyaBriBriTalk 22:40, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. I've added a notability template. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:53, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
Admins, we need cleanup on aisle 2
[edit]Stone Cold (1991 film), which could use rev/deletion, esp. of an edit summary. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- And help on the unsourced controversies at the now protected M. K. Stalin. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. Please have a look at the Stone Cold nonsense, if you would. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:42, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Two for the price of one. Drmies (talk) 03:46, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- And the Anna Wroblewski history is so bad I've privately emailed Wikipedia requesting rev/deletion and page protection. It goes back to April 7. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:45, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Drmies, if your talk page wasn't protected, I'd slap another barnstar on it. For me, perhaps the lowest shit I find here is the malicious defamation, and I'm absolutely delighted when I can facilitate its permanent removal from plain sight. Thank you very much, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:54, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sure thing. It's actually worse. I dropped a rangeblock, and now I'm cleaning up Yuval Bronshtein--same asshole. Thanks for keeping it clean. Drmies (talk) 03:56, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- I see, and the rev/deletion there needs to go back at least to summer of last year. Drmies, I'm seeing issues at least by [20]; minor stuff at that, but after that date it gets worse. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:57, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Let's see if I got them all. Drmies (talk) 04:01, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Missed this [21]]. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:02, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Let's see if I got them all. Drmies (talk) 04:01, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- I see, and the rev/deletion there needs to go back at least to summer of last year. Drmies, I'm seeing issues at least by [20]; minor stuff at that, but after that date it gets worse. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:57, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sure thing. It's actually worse. I dropped a rangeblock, and now I'm cleaning up Yuval Bronshtein--same asshole. Thanks for keeping it clean. Drmies (talk) 03:56, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Drmies, if your talk page wasn't protected, I'd slap another barnstar on it. For me, perhaps the lowest shit I find here is the malicious defamation, and I'm absolutely delighted when I can facilitate its permanent removal from plain sight. Thank you very much, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:54, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. Please have a look at the Stone Cold nonsense, if you would. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:42, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
I've nibbled around the edges of this. John from Idegon, would you like to have a look? Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:58, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, Bob. For reasons many of your other followers are aware of and I would happily explain, I don't edit articles about New Jersey subjects. John from Idegon (talk) 15:20, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- I didn't realize that, and didn't mean to put you in an awkward spot. No explanation necessary. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:22, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- It's not awkward, Bob. Practical would be a better term. There's an ongoing issue that many have noted with an OWN attitude on anything New Jersey from a particular editor who shall remain unnamed. I've had multiple bad experiences with him and just choose to avoid interaction with him. That particular article was one place we crossed. See WP:UNBLOCKABLE. On another topic, I don't think for a second that the editor from that Indiana school whom you spoke with on my talk was actually on staff there. He claims I have run him off, to which I say good. If he by some slim chance is on staff, someone should call his edits to the attention of the school's ED. Pretty certain it's a kid who thought claiming to be on staff would give him a leg up and when he found it didn't had no idea how to respond. If he comes back, I'll likely seek a block based on NOTHERE or as a role account. John from Idegon (talk) 05:57, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think the project will much miss our Indiana contributor, either. I don't know if he/she is actually a staffer, but I doubt they're a student. Perhaps alum. Thank you, John from Idegon. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:16, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- It's not awkward, Bob. Practical would be a better term. There's an ongoing issue that many have noted with an OWN attitude on anything New Jersey from a particular editor who shall remain unnamed. I've had multiple bad experiences with him and just choose to avoid interaction with him. That particular article was one place we crossed. See WP:UNBLOCKABLE. On another topic, I don't think for a second that the editor from that Indiana school whom you spoke with on my talk was actually on staff there. He claims I have run him off, to which I say good. If he by some slim chance is on staff, someone should call his edits to the attention of the school's ED. Pretty certain it's a kid who thought claiming to be on staff would give him a leg up and when he found it didn't had no idea how to respond. If he comes back, I'll likely seek a block based on NOTHERE or as a role account. John from Idegon (talk) 05:57, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- I didn't realize that, and didn't mean to put you in an awkward spot. No explanation necessary. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:22, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
TWW
[edit]Hi! If it's okay with you can i interview you this month for TheWikiWizard? if you don't want to be interviewed that's okay. Thanks and Happy Editing! --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 00:33, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sure, Thegooduser. You let me know how you'd like to proceed. I can answer questions in writing. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:31, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Ok thanks! It will be in a question and answer type interview, I'll update you with details and the link to the page in a bit. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 20:06, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, You can find the questions here Thanks Bob! --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 20:44, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- Done. Thank you, Thegooduser. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:26, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, You can find the questions here Thanks Bob! --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 20:44, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
May 2019
[edit]- I don't have a clue why you'd revert back to first name use , per WP:MOS. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:37, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- In the process, you restored unencyclopedic content, Masumrezarock100. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:38, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry I will fix it. It's better to use first name rather than last name. Sincerely, Masum Reza☎ 14:46, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- No, I've already restored it. And we almost never use first names--where did you get that, Masumrezarock100? 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:47, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. Actually I was patrolling recent changes and your edit caught up in "likely bad faith" filter. Also I don't edit biographical articles. So I didn't know that. Thanks again. Happy editing. Sincerely, Masum Reza☎ 14:55, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- No, I've already restored it. And we almost never use first names--where did you get that, Masumrezarock100? 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:47, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry I will fix it. It's better to use first name rather than last name. Sincerely, Masum Reza☎ 14:46, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Herald
[edit]Herald 2005 (originally noted by one of your previous incarnations) has resurfaced. I find the paid editing disclosure deficient and the username problematic. Why did we unblock them? — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:46, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hmm. Promotional and COI, and back at it. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:50, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sam Lee (executive) is an advert for the gentleman's company. Is he notable, JJMC89? I can support an AfD pretty easily on this. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:07, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- And why hasn't BlockshinePR (talk · contribs) been blocked? These are philosophical questions. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:09, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Blocked. If he is, the article doesn't show it. If you want to write up an AfD nom, I'll do the paperwork. (That goes for any time you want to do one.) We've also got Bitcoin Group from the same SPA. — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:43, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, JJMC89. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:13, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- And why hasn't BlockshinePR (talk · contribs) been blocked? These are philosophical questions. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:09, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sam Lee (executive) is an advert for the gentleman's company. Is he notable, JJMC89? I can support an AfD pretty easily on this. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:07, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
A nickname
[edit]Hey IP 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63, don't you have a nickname or something? Calling by your IP address is like a pain to me. I don't ask for personal info. Just a name to address you here. (please mention me on reply) Sincerely, Masum Reza☎ 05:43, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Masumrezarock100, most of us call our astute colleague Bob. John from Idegon (talk) 14:34, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- @John from Idegon: Got it. I will call him Bob from now on. Sincerely, Masum Reza☎ 14:46, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
I'd appreciate more eyes on this. First, to make sure promotional content doesn't get restored. And then to see how much of this may be a copyright violation. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:59, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- I've nuked the copyvio. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:04, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- Wow, so it was the whole nine yards. Thank you, JJMC89. Methinks the new account will be a bit upset. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:06, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
JJMC89 and Drmies, there's nothing gained by me ramping up the snark there, but I'd appreciate your thoughts. I've never seen 'so what?' offered as a rationale for preserving unsourced content. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:44, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- Almost as if they don't understand WP:BURDEN — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:42, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- I don't get it. Thank you, JJMC89. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:10, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Apparently they still don't get it. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:59, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- I don't get it. Thank you, JJMC89. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:10, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Wonderful talent, but now the subject of a hellaciously promotional bio. Any talk page stalkers interested? 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:16, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- I've had a go at an initial cleanup. Cheers, Melcous (talk) 08:30, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Melcous. Best, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 12:57, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
This may need protection, since Drmies' removal of content hasn't impeded the determination of a presumed alumnus. I've never seen the mimeograph of a student's 1993 term paper used as a source. More eyes, please. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:05, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you John from Idegon and Melcous. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:05, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
John from Idegon, your thoughts on this? Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:07, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- Drmies, I don't mean to leave you out. This begs for cutting, but my doing so will be easily misconstrued. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:14, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Quick question
[edit]Hey B0b! Question: if I organized a small meet up in Connecticut, would you attend it? –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 02:59, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, MJL, it depends on the place and date. Asking an IP to attend could be a first--I wouldn't know whether to go anonymously or as my old registered. Thank you. 2601:188:180:1481:80EE:488:E373:EEC3 (talk) 13:46, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- [Thank you for the ping] Whatever you feel comfortable with! Also, it's kind of curious why no other IP has been invited to attend such events. I mean, like, it's pretty dang obvious that you are in Connecticut. As for date and time, well that's up a bit in the air at the moment. I'm still waiting to hear back from AmericanAir88 and have yet to formally invite Markvs88 to this get-together. I suspect it will be down south (either New Haven or Bridgeport) since that is where everyone else is. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 21:13, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- First, MJL, sorry for the changing IPs--we're in an unsettled pattern now, and my desktop cuts out or freezes a lot. I'm near the shore, but further east, so even New Haven is a forty minute drive in decent traffic. Bridgeport's too far. My status ought to have no bearing on where you meet. 2601:188:180:1481:95CA:E8E7:8C14:8CB3 (talk) 00:08, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- No worries about the IP change. I'm living in Cromwell, so pretty much Old Lyme, Bridgeport, New Haven, etc. are all similar drives for me. My preference is for Middletown for any meetup, but that certainly is too far for anyone coming from Fairfield county (which I suspect is a lot of Wikipedia editors all things considered). I suppose New Haven would be where it gets had since that town is pretty much down I-95 for you and I-91 for me. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 03:03, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for keeping me posted, MJL. Over the coming weeks my schedule is a checkerboard--teaching classes, several out of state trips, and getting some of my own work done. Once you set a date, I'll let you know whether or not I can attend. 2601:188:180:1481:95CA:E8E7:8C14:8CB3 (talk) 03:33, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sounds great! :D –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 03:38, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for keeping me posted, MJL. Over the coming weeks my schedule is a checkerboard--teaching classes, several out of state trips, and getting some of my own work done. Once you set a date, I'll let you know whether or not I can attend. 2601:188:180:1481:95CA:E8E7:8C14:8CB3 (talk) 03:33, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- No worries about the IP change. I'm living in Cromwell, so pretty much Old Lyme, Bridgeport, New Haven, etc. are all similar drives for me. My preference is for Middletown for any meetup, but that certainly is too far for anyone coming from Fairfield county (which I suspect is a lot of Wikipedia editors all things considered). I suppose New Haven would be where it gets had since that town is pretty much down I-95 for you and I-91 for me. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 03:03, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- First, MJL, sorry for the changing IPs--we're in an unsettled pattern now, and my desktop cuts out or freezes a lot. I'm near the shore, but further east, so even New Haven is a forty minute drive in decent traffic. Bridgeport's too far. My status ought to have no bearing on where you meet. 2601:188:180:1481:95CA:E8E7:8C14:8CB3 (talk) 00:08, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- [Thank you for the ping] Whatever you feel comfortable with! Also, it's kind of curious why no other IP has been invited to attend such events. I mean, like, it's pretty dang obvious that you are in Connecticut. As for date and time, well that's up a bit in the air at the moment. I'm still waiting to hear back from AmericanAir88 and have yet to formally invite Markvs88 to this get-together. I suspect it will be down south (either New Haven or Bridgeport) since that is where everyone else is. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 21:13, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Talk page stalkers, any thoughts about the recent accretion of improperly sourced original research? Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:80EE:488:E373:EEC3 (talk) 20:21, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
A load of copyright issues and the usual blatant university promotion. Could use a check on both--JJMC89, you up for a look? Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:95CA:E8E7:8C14:8CB3 (talk) 02:21, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- And this section [22]. Really? 2601:188:180:1481:95CA:E8E7:8C14:8CB3 (talk) 02:22, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. Ugh. 2601:188:180:1481:95CA:E8E7:8C14:8CB3 (talk) 02:28, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- So it goes! Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:33, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Too quick for me — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:36, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- So it goes! Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:33, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. Ugh. 2601:188:180:1481:95CA:E8E7:8C14:8CB3 (talk) 02:28, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Drmies, please block AdrianPettyfer (talk · contribs). Promotional edits continued long after your reversions and warnings. Also the article may need to be checked for copyright issues, esp. the passages I removed just now. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:35, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Drmies blocked, and I did some copyvio cleanup. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:21, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you both very much. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:09, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Book spamming
[edit]I came across two this morning. Any thoughts on the inclusion of a book by Annie MacHale (talk · contribs)? 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:34, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- Also, apparent book spamming by Reself (talk · contribs). No response from either new account re: COI. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:35, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- JJMC89 and Drmies, would you have a look at the edit histories of these two accounts? Your thoughts re: spam or legitimate contributions will be appreciated. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:18, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- The first looks like spam to me. Reself responded to Andy on their talk page and may be legitimate. — JJMC89 (T·C) 23:01, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking. I'm skeptical, especially when a new account's sole purpose is to add an author's work to multiple articles. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:55, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- JJMC89 and Drmies, would you have a look at the edit histories of these two accounts? Your thoughts re: spam or legitimate contributions will be appreciated. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:18, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
How best handled?
[edit]Dozens of trivial biographical additions, not a source to be found, and nobody's flagged them yet. Bogwraith (talk · contribs). Revert all edits? Third or fourth-level warning? Discuss. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:46, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Archiving talk page
[edit]Hello, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63,
I hope you don't mind but I archived part of your talk page as there were about 120 discussions posted going back years and it was hard to navigate. Everything is saved, as you can see, not only in the page history but on User talk:2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63/Archive 1. Liz Read! Talk! 18:04, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, Liz. I’ve largely checked out for the summer, if not permanently. Time will tell. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:B1FF:A876:11D8:5A07 (talk) 23:24, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]Another thunderstorm, another lost connection, another avatar. 2601:188:180:1481:6447:7285:231A:27B9 (talk) 01:53, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
- I've missed seeing you around. Glad you're back — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:26, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, JJMC89. Don't know the extent of my return, but it's good to hear from you. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:28, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
- Yes good to see you back "Bob", your presence was missed. Melcous (talk) 00:27, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Melcous. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:19, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Yes good to see you back "Bob", your presence was missed. Melcous (talk) 00:27, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, JJMC89. Don't know the extent of my return, but it's good to hear from you. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:28, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Some more eyes on Star Alex will be appreciated. Spam for a non notable person. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:49, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Help needed at Ira Trivedi. JJMC89? Thanks. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- I was too late for the party. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:54, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
- That's okay. Pinging you was a Hail Mary pass, since I was going out for the afternoon. 2601:188:180:1481:74C9:C465:3961:220A (talk) 13:19, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
- I was too late for the party. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:54, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Clean up on aisle 4
[edit]I've reverted promotional copyright violation content at Marisa Kelly. Now we need rev/delete. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:74C9:C465:3961:220A (talk) 14:05, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
- Done by Diannaa and I — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:39, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
- My thanks to you both. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:50, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]Another IP change.... 2601:188:180:1481:A8BC:25DC:F795:8F5A (talk) 10:56, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- We should really make you your own noticeboard or something.. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 15:21, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- I like that. JJMC89, can we get some eyes on 2A02:C7F:8CA1:C900:64AE:1202:62F9:99C8 (talk · contribs)? Disruptive/trolling, and maybe block evasion based on edit history. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:A8BC:25DC:F795:8F5A (talk) 17:04, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- See also 2A02:C7F:8CA1:C900:C5AB:2617:80F8:DCE7 (talk · contribs). Same. 2601:188:180:1481:A8BC:25DC:F795:8F5A (talk) 20:17, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Katie already took care of them. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:55, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- Yes. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:6CEB:1F11:AF38:5D2A (talk) 13:43, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- Katie already took care of them. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:55, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]Back with another temp IP. 2601:188:180:1481:BDDE:3103:879:7B8D (talk) 09:47, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi JJMC89 and Drmies, I'm about done with the discussion there. Any thoughts you may have, one way or another, would be welcome. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:18, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Another avatar
[edit]- sigh*. Country internet. 2601:188:180:1481:DC2D:52EC:4C74:EA5E (talk) 17:49, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
An admin at Andrew Cuomo, please
[edit]The same nut job stuff as before. Could someone rev/delete this back to August 28? And it could use protection for longer than a month. This is a long term troll. Drmies? Thank you, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:59, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- Revdel done and protection extended — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:13, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- JJMC89, thank you. Very happy holiday weekend! 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:14, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. Hope you enjoy yours as well! — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:30, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- JJMC89, thank you. Very happy holiday weekend! 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:14, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
Would appreciate more eyes there, rather than edit war with a new user. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:17, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
Any extra eyes and/or administrative attention here will be appreciated. A COI account, by the looks of it, who was already blocked once for unrelated issues. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:36, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- One question is whether their edits should stand, when they mimic and elaborate on those of Liqed Diq (talk · contribs), whose contributions were reverted en masse. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:43, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- I blocked the account based on your AIV report. Now I've reverted both accounts edits to the article and heavily trimmed it. Feel free to restore anything if you are so inclined. — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:25, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, JJMC89. I'm getting tired of dealing with a COI at Westside Gunn, and have begun a thread at the BLP noticeboard, for all the good it does on a holiday weekend. Please have a look when you can, or I may ask for page protection. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:14, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- Melanie has protected the article. — JJMC89 (T·C) 21:45, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, JJMC89. I'm getting tired of dealing with a COI at Westside Gunn, and have begun a thread at the BLP noticeboard, for all the good it does on a holiday weekend. Please have a look when you can, or I may ask for page protection. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:14, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- I blocked the account based on your AIV report. Now I've reverted both accounts edits to the article and heavily trimmed it. Feel free to restore anything if you are so inclined. — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:25, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
Looks like this may have been copied from day one. Diannaa, would you have a look? Thank you. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:42, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- It was. I've removed the copied parts. — JJMC89 (T·C) 21:45, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, JJMC89. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:03, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
Spammer or just undue weight to property?
[edit]JJMC89, what to make of Contributor1118 (talk · contribs)'s edits? Doesn't smell right. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:43, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
- Contributor1118- I have a vested interest in ensuring celebrity property investment is covered. As well as updated property pages. My interest lies with the property market, however if it is a requirement that you must cover other subjects I can do that?JJMC89 (talk · contribs)
Contributor1118 (talk · contribs) Why have all my edits been deleted????
Contributor1118 (talk · contribs) - That was hours and hours of work JJMC89. Please can you explain why?
- This is an encyclopedia; biographical entries are not places to add 'celebrity property investment', unless those investments are so important that they are covered by multiple WP:RELIABLE sources. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:03, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
- And what's the WP:COI with Property Observer, the website you're using as an almost exclusive source for dozens of edits? No indication as to whether it's an acceptable source--usually reliable publications are well enough established to have their own standalone articles here. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:14, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
- Would love Melcous' and Drmies' take on this tomorrow, while I'm at work. Don't see any reason for financial trivia [23] to be included in an encyclopedia. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:30, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
- Whether that website would pass muster at WP:RSN will be up to editors there, but I don't see much here that gives me faith in regard to editorial independence and quality. Yes, financial trivia. Drmies (talk) 16:29, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
- I Have been using other sources for my edits such as: realestate.com.au, the age, The Australian. I feel quite harassed and discriminated against. If celebrities have large investments in a certain area or a historic monument is being sold then it is important that this is reflected in their wikipedia page. See Rebel Wilson for an example. She is a contributor to The Australian property market and that has been covered by several other news outlets. If I'm being honest, I thought that the work I was doing was helpful but clearly not. Contributor1118 (talk) 00:26, 4 September 2019 (UTC) Contributor1118 (talk · contribs)
- Hi, Contributor1118. Notwithstanding a good faith effort to add to the encyclopedia, this isn't for the most part content that belongs here, any more than we need to know celebrities' cholesterol levels or the automobiles they drive, should sources be available for those bits of information. The circumstances of their housing purchases and sales may be worth noting if such experiences have received extensive media coverage. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:F560:C171:2103:90BF (talk) 12:48, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Contributor1118, are you in the real estate business? And if you have a "vested interest" in "ensuring celebrity property investment is covered", then you unambiguously have at least a WP:COI. If you or your employer stands to reap any financial windfall from the value of these properties, then you are a WP:PAID editor. John from Idegon (talk) 00:22, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, John from Idegon, and thanks. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:49, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Contributor1118, are you in the real estate business? And if you have a "vested interest" in "ensuring celebrity property investment is covered", then you unambiguously have at least a WP:COI. If you or your employer stands to reap any financial windfall from the value of these properties, then you are a WP:PAID editor. John from Idegon (talk) 00:22, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, Contributor1118. Notwithstanding a good faith effort to add to the encyclopedia, this isn't for the most part content that belongs here, any more than we need to know celebrities' cholesterol levels or the automobiles they drive, should sources be available for those bits of information. The circumstances of their housing purchases and sales may be worth noting if such experiences have received extensive media coverage. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:F560:C171:2103:90BF (talk) 12:48, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- I Have been using other sources for my edits such as: realestate.com.au, the age, The Australian. I feel quite harassed and discriminated against. If celebrities have large investments in a certain area or a historic monument is being sold then it is important that this is reflected in their wikipedia page. See Rebel Wilson for an example. She is a contributor to The Australian property market and that has been covered by several other news outlets. If I'm being honest, I thought that the work I was doing was helpful but clearly not. Contributor1118 (talk) 00:26, 4 September 2019 (UTC) Contributor1118 (talk · contribs)
Block evasion?
[edit]JJMC89, PaintItColourless (talk · contribs) looks familiar [24]. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:F560:C171:2103:90BF (talk) 13:37, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Blocked — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:02, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. 2601:188:180:1481:F560:C171:2103:90BF (talk) 02:03, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- I'm thinking Absol069 (talk · contribs) may be another sock, JJMC89 2601:188:180:1481:F560:C171:2103:90BF (talk) 02:20, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- I'm also thinking this is a paid editor working for the garment industry there, who has no compunctions about evading blocks to get his/her work done. 2601:188:180:1481:F560:C171:2103:90BF (talk) 02:22, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- JJMC89, Perhaps you can direct me to the SPI, and I'll add the Absol account. Thank you, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:57, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, I forgot about this after I started looking at it. There isn't an SPI yet. It would be at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/VarnishingAgent. I can create it for so you can fill in the details. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:20, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- I could have sworn I saw that you'd created one a few days ago, but haven't found it since. No sweat. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:22, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, I forgot about this after I started looking at it. There isn't an SPI yet. It would be at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/VarnishingAgent. I can create it for so you can fill in the details. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:20, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- JJMC89, Perhaps you can direct me to the SPI, and I'll add the Absol account. Thank you, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:57, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. 2601:188:180:1481:F560:C171:2103:90BF (talk) 02:03, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
Copyvio
[edit]Thanks, but that was a lot of clicks. Drmies (talk) 04:18, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, really. I had no idea it went back so far. Thanks--didn't mean to edit conflict, just got there the same time. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:19, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
JJMC89, can you check to see whether the copyright violation content was simply re-added? Regardless, it can probably be removed for lack of sources. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- At least part of it was. Given the editor's history, I've reverted under the presumption that all of it is. — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:29, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, JJMC89. I noticed it weeks ago and said 'meh,' but circled back today. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:48, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
More eyes on this, please. Recently taken over by promotional accounts. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:52, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Requesting rev/deletion of copyright violation content. Promotional, too. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:42, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Diannaa, could you take a look at this to see how far back the copyright violations run? Of course, there are other issues as well, but first things first. Thank you, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:27, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Okay that's all the copyvio I can find. Should I do the revision deletion now, or do you need me to wait? — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:47, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, and anytime you like. Thanks for asking. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:48, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Ok all done. I have also pasted (well, via Twinkle actually) a warning at user talk:Mhickey2018. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:57, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Great. Since all their damage--er, contributions--was done in 2014, I figured they're long gone. Otherwise I'd have bestowed a COI warning. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:05, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- No seriously, the one I warned added some copy vio just today. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 16:32, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- My mistake. I was thinking about Mscanlon clsi (talk · contribs). 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:47, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- No seriously, the one I warned added some copy vio just today. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 16:32, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Great. Since all their damage--er, contributions--was done in 2014, I figured they're long gone. Otherwise I'd have bestowed a COI warning. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:05, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Ok all done. I have also pasted (well, via Twinkle actually) a warning at user talk:Mhickey2018. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:57, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, and anytime you like. Thanks for asking. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:48, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi, sorry, didn't mean to cause waves, had just been asked by a volunteer at the organization to update stuff. I now know I can't make further edits to the page beacuse of COI, but how do we get the banners at the top removed? I also have suggestions for citing sources but don't want to break any rules further. Any help would be great. (Example, history area can go to https://clsi.org/about/clsis-history/ and ISO can go to https://www.iso.org/committee/54916.html) Thanks, --Mhickey2018 (talk) 19:04, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Neither of those look to be very good sources, especially the first, which is WP:PRIMARY. Yes, it's best if nobody associated with the organization gets involved. The templates at the top of the article are still, for the most part, relevant. Years of promotional, inappropriate and plagiarized content. The article would need further trimming to remove all the problems. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:10, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Understood about the WP:PRIMARY side of things. Just curious, so I can try to understand better, why a .org reference would be a bad source of information that backs up the ISO area? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhickey2018 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- ISO might be okay, though I'm unsure whether it meets guidelines as a WP:RELIABLE source. Regardless, the organization, and its proxies, would do well to stay away. The article is already much better than it was this morning, when it was a brochure. Thank you, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:06, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- By the way, you acknowledged COI, but not that you'd added plagiarized content. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:07, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- ISO might be okay, though I'm unsure whether it meets guidelines as a WP:RELIABLE source. Regardless, the organization, and its proxies, would do well to stay away. The article is already much better than it was this morning, when it was a brochure. Thank you, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:06, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Understood about the WP:PRIMARY side of things. Just curious, so I can try to understand better, why a .org reference would be a bad source of information that backs up the ISO area? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhickey2018 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi Bob! I hope you're doing well! I just wanted to thank you for handling the disruption that was occurring on Joey King, and to say hello and wish you well. :-) Keep in touch, and I'm sure we'll run into one another on Wikipedia again soon. :-P Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:52, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Oshwah. Good to hear from you. That's someone who's been using multiple IPs to mess with articles over the long term. Thanks to JJMC89 for responding. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:53, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- Joy..... If that user pops up again, let me know on my user talk page and I'll be happy to put a kibosh to the matter. What other IP addresses has this user been hopping around to? Can you list them? If they're in a range, I can look into a rangeblock. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:55, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- Looked like different ranges, but same Canadian provider. Just perusing the article histories of a few. You want fun? Josep Colomer as a long unchecked vanity autobiography. I'm not going to take it apart now, calling it a night. Hoping other editors take notice. Thank you, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:01, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oh, fantastic....... lol. I'll take a look at it and see what I find. Have a great night, and it was great talking to you. We'll speak again soon, hopefully! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:14, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- Looked like different ranges, but same Canadian provider. Just perusing the article histories of a few. You want fun? Josep Colomer as a long unchecked vanity autobiography. I'm not going to take it apart now, calling it a night. Hoping other editors take notice. Thank you, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:01, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- Joy..... If that user pops up again, let me know on my user talk page and I'll be happy to put a kibosh to the matter. What other IP addresses has this user been hopping around to? Can you list them? If they're in a range, I can look into a rangeblock. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:55, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Melcous or Drmies, any thoughts on this? A vanity bio by and about a prominent scholar, without sources. I've started some clean up, but it could be cut by 90%. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:21, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- I have a thought, yes--if it can't be improved it must be burned. Maybe you can start it from scratch. ;) Drmies (talk) 21:57, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- You know, I did't find much in the way of sources, either. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:56, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
And the intro to this. I just don't have the energy right now to revert every inane edit. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:23, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- To extend on this, I'd appreciate administrative eyes--Oshwah, JJMC89 or Drmies. Lots of poor, if not disruptive editing. Looks like at least two accounts are being used to make the same sort of edits, many of which involve overlinking or adding odd categories, per [25] and [26] from the registered account and this tangle that I un-knotted, mostly from the IP [27]. Given the long histories of both accounts, it would be no surprise if more are involved. If you like I can drop this at ANI. Happy weekend. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:51, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Bob! Sorry for the late response! I just got finished with taking my MacBook Pro apart and having the thermal compound on its CPU and GPU replaced. It's nine years old, and it was long overdue... ;-) Sure, lets have you create that ANI, and include all of the diffs, information, and comparisons between these users that you can. This'll make everything easier, as multiple admins will be able to shed eyes on this and provide input. :-) Let me know when you've done so, and I'll take a look at it and comment. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:54, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Oshwah, I may do that. At the moment, I'm more likely to visit ANI regarding the contributions of 2605:E000:9149:8300:549A:9CC6:73E3:B72D (talk · contribs), who made perhaps dozens of poor edits with the conviction that they were improvements. A discussion was begun at the teahouse, where I expect it to gain little interest. But not tonight. Too late. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:47, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- No worries, Bob. Get some sleep and we'll talk tomorrow. Keep me posted and I'll take a look at this IP user and see what I can find in the meantime... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:29, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Oshwah, I may do that. At the moment, I'm more likely to visit ANI regarding the contributions of 2605:E000:9149:8300:549A:9CC6:73E3:B72D (talk · contribs), who made perhaps dozens of poor edits with the conviction that they were improvements. A discussion was begun at the teahouse, where I expect it to gain little interest. But not tonight. Too late. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:47, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Bob! Sorry for the late response! I just got finished with taking my MacBook Pro apart and having the thermal compound on its CPU and GPU replaced. It's nine years old, and it was long overdue... ;-) Sure, lets have you create that ANI, and include all of the diffs, information, and comparisons between these users that you can. This'll make everything easier, as multiple admins will be able to shed eyes on this and provide input. :-) Let me know when you've done so, and I'll take a look at it and comment. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:54, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Drmies, you warned the IP about their edits [28], and they used the registered account, LA2002 (talk · contribs), to restore the same dreck to the Dark Knight article. Also, the category nonsense continues [29]. Could be worth looking at all the related accounts. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:59, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Found a couple of as-yet unused accounts, on which I placed a CU block (Laar2002 and LA2406). I placed two rangeblocks as well. If you like, you can start an SPI, sort of for the record and to archive the IPs. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:37, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. the last time I looked, starting an SPI is for me slightly easier than doing tax returns. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:10, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- And thank you, Drmies, for removing all the unsourced crap from the 'Thousand Ways to Die' articles. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:12, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. the last time I looked, starting an SPI is for me slightly easier than doing tax returns. Cheers, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:10, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Drmies, a little help when you can, please. I've requested a block and page protection. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:45, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- If you help with homework... Drmies (talk) 00:55, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hey, I'm here. Just finished an article draft and sent it to the magazine. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:02, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- I meant my daughter's math homework. Turns out we did the wrong sheet anyway. Drmies (talk) 17:38, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oh, math. I thought you were talking about smething easier, like grading your students' middle ages english lit papers. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:10, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- I meant my daughter's math homework. Turns out we did the wrong sheet anyway. Drmies (talk) 17:38, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hey, I'm here. Just finished an article draft and sent it to the magazine. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:02, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject American football#Meaning of "field goal attempt". -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:40, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Marchjuly. That was the right venue for the discussion. And a true time sink for multiple editors. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:54, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Next it would probably be better to first try the article's talk page before the Teahouse. You can use Template:Please see to let others (i.e. WikiProjects) know without worrying about WP:CANVASS. To be fair to the other IP, I kinda understood what they were trying to saying, but their apparent unwillingness to even consider what others were also trying to say is where the problem started to become a time sink. The other IP seem to want to use Wikipedia to "fix" an "error" in English usage made by reliable sources, etc. but didn't seem to get that's not Wikipedia's role. For example, a try sounds just as "wrong" to me as "attempt" probably does to the other IP. How can it really be a "try" if it leads to points actually being scored? (rhetorical question) At the same time, it's the term used by reliable sources covering rugby and the governing bodies of the various rugby organizations, even if it may have a slightly different meaning when used in other contexts. So, if I or anyone else feels that "try" is being used incorrectly, then I/we need to get it changed out in the real world first. Only then will Wikipedia follow suit. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:30, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Marchjuly, I didn't start the thread at the Teahouse, and agree that it wasn't the best place for the discussion. Editing from a new IP, the user is now making another string of dubious 'correction' edits, some constructive, some not. As I suggested initially, the real issue is probably not the field goal business, but competency with the language and WP:MOS. Thank you, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:01, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oops. My apologies for getting that wrong. Quite a few similar looking IP addresses ended up participating in that discussion and I got them mixed up. As for the subsequent "problem" edits, maybe run things by Gonzo fan2007 first since he warned the other IP to be more careful when he closed the WT:AMF discussion. If the IP is hoping from one address to another, then I guess it's possible they might've not seen the warning; if they did, however, and are still continuing on as before, then then ANI may be warranted. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:35, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- IP2601, what would need to be done is a paper trail. If the IP is making bad edits, even in good faith, they should be reverted and the IP warned using {{uw-disruptive1}} or something similar. This creates a paper trail that allows admins to block users. If it is a complicated issue, or the editor is using multiple IP addresses, you can also report it to WP:AN/I or WP:AIV depending on the issue. I would also strongly recommend that you create a user account, as it makes it easier to identify yourself. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:53, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oops. My apologies for getting that wrong. Quite a few similar looking IP addresses ended up participating in that discussion and I got them mixed up. As for the subsequent "problem" edits, maybe run things by Gonzo fan2007 first since he warned the other IP to be more careful when he closed the WT:AMF discussion. If the IP is hoping from one address to another, then I guess it's possible they might've not seen the warning; if they did, however, and are still continuing on as before, then then ANI may be warranted. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:35, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Marchjuly, I didn't start the thread at the Teahouse, and agree that it wasn't the best place for the discussion. Editing from a new IP, the user is now making another string of dubious 'correction' edits, some constructive, some not. As I suggested initially, the real issue is probably not the field goal business, but competency with the language and WP:MOS. Thank you, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:01, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Next it would probably be better to first try the article's talk page before the Teahouse. You can use Template:Please see to let others (i.e. WikiProjects) know without worrying about WP:CANVASS. To be fair to the other IP, I kinda understood what they were trying to saying, but their apparent unwillingness to even consider what others were also trying to say is where the problem started to become a time sink. The other IP seem to want to use Wikipedia to "fix" an "error" in English usage made by reliable sources, etc. but didn't seem to get that's not Wikipedia's role. For example, a try sounds just as "wrong" to me as "attempt" probably does to the other IP. How can it really be a "try" if it leads to points actually being scored? (rhetorical question) At the same time, it's the term used by reliable sources covering rugby and the governing bodies of the various rugby organizations, even if it may have a slightly different meaning when used in other contexts. So, if I or anyone else feels that "try" is being used incorrectly, then I/we need to get it changed out in the real world first. Only then will Wikipedia follow suit. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:30, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi!
[edit]I noticed one of your contributions and I just wanted to say thank you. I thought about asking if you were interested in creating an account, but I'm guessing that you've been asked that question before? Anyways, nice to meet you! Clovermoss (talk) 22:03, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi! About a year ago, you placed {{COI}}
on Greystar Real Estate Partners. I've been working on some updates to this article on Greystar's behalf (with full disclosure), and some additional edits have also been made to the article in the interim. I believe the flag no longer applies. Would you be up for taking a look and removing it if you agree? Thanks! Mary Gaulke (talk) 23:44, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
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