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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, it.
Count of DYK Hooks | ||
Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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July 18 | 3 | 1 |
July 19 | 1 | |
July 25 | 2 | 1 |
July 26 | 2 | |
July 27 | 2 | 1 |
July 28 | 4 | |
July 29 | 2 | |
July 30 | 3 | 1 |
August 1 | 3 | |
August 3 | 1 | |
August 4 | 1 | |
August 5 | 6 | 3 |
August 6 | 4 | 2 |
August 7 | 4 | 4 |
August 8 | 2 | 1 |
August 9 | 1 | |
August 10 | 8 | 5 |
August 11 | 5 | 2 |
August 12 | 4 | 4 |
August 13 | 2 | 2 |
August 14 | 9 | 6 |
August 15 | 6 | 5 |
August 16 | 6 | 3 |
August 17 | 8 | 4 |
August 18 | 9 | 8 |
August 19 | 7 | 3 |
August 20 | 5 | 3 |
August 21 | 3 | 1 |
August 22 | 5 | 4 |
August 23 | 9 | 2 |
August 24 | 7 | 1 |
August 25 | 10 | 3 |
August 26 | 5 | 2 |
August 27 | 13 | 9 |
August 28 | 14 | 6 |
August 29 | 16 | 6 |
August 30 | 21 | 7 |
August 31 | 9 | 6 |
September 1 | 7 | 5 |
September 2 | 9 | 4 |
September 3 | 7 | 3 |
September 4 | 7 | 5 |
September 5 | 4 | 3 |
September 6 | 7 | 4 |
September 7 | 11 | 2 |
September 8 | 8 | 4 |
September 9 | 7 | 1 |
September 10 | 6 | |
September 11 | 5 | |
Total | 300 | 137 |
Last updated 21:22, 11 September 2024 UTC Current time is 21:37, 11 September 2024 UTC [refresh] |
Instructions for nominators
[edit]If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the DYK guidelines.
Frequently asked questions
[edit]How do I write an interesting hook?
Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.
When will my nomination be reviewed?
This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below).
Where is my hook?
If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.
If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.
Instructions for reviewers
[edit]Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.
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Advanced procedures
[edit]How to promote an accepted hook
[edit]At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
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Handy copy sources:
To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
How to remove a rejected hook
[edit]- Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
- In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line
{{DYKsubpage
with{{subst:DYKsubpage
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with|passed=no
. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.
How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue
[edit]- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
- Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
How to move a nomination subpage to a new name
[edit]- Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.
Nominations
[edit]Older nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on July 18
[edit]David Yong
- ... that David Yong's interest in K-pop started after he took his younger brother to a Twice concert in 2017? Source: https://www.tnp.sg/entertainment/music/singaporean-lawyer-ceo-david-yong-makes-k-pop-debut-signs-mamamoos-agency
- ALT1: ... that Singapore-born businessman and K-Pop singer David Yong invested 10 billion won ($7.5 million USD) to an entertainment agency that faced a legal dispute with its only artist? Source: https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20240303050161
- ALT2: ... that before Singaporean artist David Yong mounted his music career, he was the chief executive officer of a timber firm? Source: [1]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Blinking Sam
~ Tails Wx 00:23, 18 July 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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QPQ: - Not done
Overall: I want to suggest linking "an entertainment agency" and "its only artist" to their respective articles, but not sure if that would be overlinking. Just a thought—otherwise all looks good. I prefer ALT0, just waiting for QPQ now. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 01:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- I did consider linking those terms, but ultimately decided not to because of the aforementioned reason. QPQ now done. Thanks for the review, Bsoyka! ~ Tails Wx 20:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Works for me—here's the beautiful green stamp of approval.
Great work here! Bsoyka (t • c • g) 21:50, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Works for me—here's the beautiful green stamp of approval.
I don't know if DYK?again is the right icon to use here, but a question popped up on my talk page which might affect this nom, so I'll just copy that to this page and let the conversation continue here. RoySmith (talk) 20:33, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
moved from User Talk:RoySmith#How adverse is DYK...
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... in promoting a BLP hook when there is new (negative) development? While this is regarding a specific DYK nom, I generally have been inactive in the DYK area hence a lack of knowledge of the norms on DYK reviewing on my part, thus the question here. This is also at no fault of anyone involved in the DYK item thus far. DYK/David Yong was reviewed and approved in July 2024. Almost one month later now in August, he was recently arrested and charged in Singapore for some financial crimes. In this circumstance, will the BLP hook be queued for the Main Page still? If so, which hook will be used? ALT0 or ALT1? – robertsky (talk) 18:36, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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- From the discussion above: I definitely do think that the recent news does impact ALT1, though ALT0 doesn't seem to be impacted by this, other than the mention of Yong. The reviewer, Bsoyka, did prefer ALT0, and I almost don't see a problem with it being accepted, other than given the recent news on Yong's financial problems, which does make me re-think that for a bit. ~ Tails Wx 03:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- WP:DYKBLP suggests avoiding undue attention on contentious information, but negative developments do not disqualify a subject from being on DYK as long as BLP and other guidelines/policies are followed. As long as the article is updated, and given how Yong is not primarily known for the recent incident, I can't see how the latest incident should prevent this from being promoted with ALT0. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:35, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- My only concern is ALT1. I am ambivalent about the rest. – robertsky (talk) 16:40, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't find ALT0 interesting either @Tails Wx:. My suggestion would be something along the lines of "that before David Yong mounted a music career, he had been the chief executive officer of a timber firm".--Launchballer 07:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, I've rephrased your suggested hook a bit and added ALT2 above. ~ Tails Wx 03:37, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Then we need another reviewer to tick it off.--Launchballer 07:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, I've rephrased your suggested hook a bit and added ALT2 above. ~ Tails Wx 03:37, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't find ALT0 interesting either @Tails Wx:. My suggestion would be something along the lines of "that before David Yong mounted a music career, he had been the chief executive officer of a timber firm".--Launchballer 07:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Khalji Revolution
- ... that the Khalji Revolution led by Jalaluddin Khalji saw the fall of the Turkic Mamluk Dynasty and the rise of the Turko-Afghan Khalji dynasty to rule the Delhi Sultanate?
- Reviewed:
Noorullah (talk) 03:06, 18 July 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but just wanted to leave some alts:
- ALT1: ...that during the Khalji Revolution, the sultan Qaiqabad was wrapped in a carpet and thrown into the Yamuna river?
- ALT2: ...that the child sultan Shamsuddin Kayumars was imprisoned and deposed as a result of the Khalji Revolution?
- Kimikel (talk) 03:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
I will review the original hook
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- The hook is mentioned in the lead, as a summary of things explained in greater detail in the article. It has no reference (the lead does not need it), but the hook is then no mentioned in any single referenced sentence.
- Interesting:
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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QPQ: None required. |
Overall: I changed the licence of File:Maginary portrait of Sultan Firuz Khalji, Khwaja Hasan, and a dervish..jpg from PD-ART-70 to PD-ArT-100 (it is from 1640) Cambalachero (talk) 23:35, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Could do one of the alt's suggested instead then. Noorullah (talk) 01:07, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- The two ALT hooks are referenced as part of a reference that covers a whole paragraph. The reference should be placed specifically on the sentence being used, even if repetitive. I may accept the article anyway, but then someone else would roll it back and ask the same thing, so let's do it right from the start. Cambalachero (talk) 19:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Noorullah21: Please address the above.--Launchballer 20:24, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, forgot about this, will try to come up with some other hooks soon. Noorullah (talk) 23:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 19
[edit]Max Greyserman
- ... that PGA Tour golfer Max Greyserman's mother competed in a golf tournament 13 years after being diagnosed with multiple sclerosis?
or ALT1:
- ... that PGA Tour golfer Max Greyserman and his brother Reed are the first brothers to win the New Jersey Amateur Championship?
or ALT2:
- ... that a year before golfer Max Greyserman earned his first PGA Tour card, he considered a different career path?
- Source: "in 2022, Greyserman briefly considered alternative career paths" and October 2023 article: "Max Greyserman has earned his first PGA TOUR card"
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:2101:AA00:A91E:FA5D:EAB2:D6B0 (talk) 08:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Masada myth
- Comment: Nominated on behalf of an IP editor who will, as usual, provide the QPQ.
Schwede66 08:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC).
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Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: 8 of the 16 citations were checked for verification and close paraphrasing; no issues arose. I prefer ALT2 because the focus is on the subject of the article. ALT1 may mention a record being set, but the PGA Tour is more prestigious than the New Jersey Amateur Championship, so I still prefer ALT2. Yue🌙 17:57, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Unpromoted per WP:ERRORS RoySmith (talk) 15:07, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
Sigh, I forgot to add an icon. The WP:ERRORS discussion was essentially
A huge portion of this article rests on sources connected to the subject, like his old university and the PGA and the U.S. Open – WP:RS requires that articles be based on independent sources. Also, a significant portion of the article is WP:PROSELINE statistics, which read really awkwardly and make the article feel half-finished.
RoySmith (talk) 18:37, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
@Schwede66: Please address the above.--Launchballer 15:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. I will see if I can address Roy's concerns over the next few days. Thank you. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:1979:BEF5:5AEC:99F4 (talk) 20:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Roy. While I have some views as to the difference between league sources and team or self-published sources as to independence, I've made revisions to the article that I hope will address your concern sufficiently. If not let me know, and I will try to do more. And explain what I at least see as the difference mentioned, and why that difference is important to the goal of wp:errors. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:ECDF:78AA:BB1B:9EDE (talk) 04:04, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. I will see if I can address Roy's concerns over the next few days. Thank you. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:1979:BEF5:5AEC:99F4 (talk) 20:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Please read WP:PROSELINE to understand the problem with the Amateur career and Professional career sections. @Theleekycauldron: who raised the original issue at WP:ERRORS.— Preceding unsigned comment added by RoySmith (talk • contribs)
- Don't think I have much to add; some positive changes in the article, but i'd still like to see a reduction in the non-independent sources. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:40, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- OK. I'll seek to make some further positive changes to the article along the lines requested to reduce sourcing to league publication. Also, understanding that proseline is an essay, I'll see what more can be done there. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:A13D:8F1E:26A2:8F66 (talk) 09:43, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- theleekycauldron I've sought to make further positive changes to the article along the lines requested. Although I would be remiss if I did not point out that I still after consideration believe that there is a great difference between a source that is not independent because it is an autobiography, or even the site of a team, and on the other hand a site of the official WP-accepted source of statistics for a league. Treating them all the same does, I expect, lead us to stray somewhat from the goal of the rule in the first place - which is to avoid COI sourcing. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:F485:C373:DBEC:EA24 (talk) 07:39, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
at this point, I think it's best for me to leave this to an independent reviewer. I will say briefly that I strongly disagree with your view of the independence of leagues from their players, especially as it concerns non-team sports. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:36, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 25
[edit]Julie Roy (activist)
- ... that Julie Roy was the first woman to successfully sue her therapist for sexual coercion?
- Source: Dictionary of Women Worldwide (https://www.encyclopedia.com/women/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/roy-julie-c-1938): "Became 1st woman to successfully sue psychiatrist for inveigling her into sexual relationship under guise of therapy"
- ALT1: ... that a future high-profile divorce lawyer represented Julie Roy in the first successful lawsuit against a therapist for sexual coercion? Source: Betrayal - https://archive.org/details/betrayaltruestor00free/mode/2up - referred to as "Bob Cohen" through the book, the foreword gives thanks to "Robert Stephan Cohen and Loren H. Plotkin for their support and assistance"
- Reviewed:
- Comment: this is my second DYK nomination. i learned from the mistakes I made the first time, made sure to cite all important claims in the article, waited until the article was properly evaluated to submit the DYK, and will be active in fixing any issues that may arise.
jeschaton (immanentize) 21:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC).
- As this is a "first" hook, per WP:DYKHOOK, sourcing has to be exceptionally strong to make sure that the fact about it being the first of its kind is accurate. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Neither hook is fine. The first, as said, needs an exceptionally strong source, and it cites a dictionary. The second has a WP:EASTEREGG link. And overall, people notable for only one event should not have an article about the person, but about the event. Please rearrange the info accordingly, and we may make a full review. Cambalachero (talk) 18:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeschaton: Please address the above.--Launchballer 20:25, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 26
[edit]Poll (parrot)
- ... that a parrot reportedly screamed profanities at the funeral of Andrew Jackson?
Di (they-them) (talk) 02:33, 26 July 2024 (UTC).
- Age and length are fine. No copvio/plagiarism concerns (Earwig = 26% but it's a quote). The hook is entertaining, and reliably sourced. I think it's good to go. KJP1 (talk) 05:55, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Pulled per Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Prep 6: Poll (parrot) (nom). SL93 (talk) 16:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Di (they-them): Please address the contents of Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 201#Prep 6: Poll (parrot) (nom).--Launchballer 20:28, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I believe I already addressed the concerns in the discussion. The sources cited are reliable and the hook is confirmed by the sources. Di (they-them) (talk) 20:38, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Looking at the article, I agree. I just tried to rearrange the article so that it would not deserve {{lead extra info}}, but did not see the words "African grey" in either of the sources in the lead. I think this should be added to the body and cited.--Launchballer 08:04, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I believe I already addressed the concerns in the discussion. The sources cited are reliable and the hook is confirmed by the sources. Di (they-them) (talk) 20:38, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Di (they-them): Please address the contents of Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 201#Prep 6: Poll (parrot) (nom).--Launchballer 20:28, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Shapez 2
- ... that Shapez 2 went from a plain white background to outer space? Source: Hardcore Gamer
'''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC).
- I've added an image on the right, which could be used if ALT1 is promoted. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Article is new and just barely long enough, by a margin of 17 bytes. Sourcing in the article looks good, and Earwig checks out. Image licensing looks alright as well. I don't love ALT0 (not quite interesting enough and lacks context), and ALT1 is not present in the article. QPQ is not required as nominator has 1 prior DYK nom. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 13:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- @PCN02WPS: I'll do some expansion later, so length shouldn't be an issue. I agree that the hooks aren't that good, so what about something like this: ALT2: " ... that unlike its 2D monochrome predecessor, Shapez 2 features 3D conveyer belts in space?" The source for ALT2 is the same Hardcore Gamer article. Alternatively, I could add the information in ALT1 to the article. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 14:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- @PCN02WPS: Have your concerns been addressed, and this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 16:44, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
New reviewer needed unless PCN02WPS returns. Z1720 (talk) 14:41, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
sorry all, haven't spent much sustained time on WP recently. I still don't love this hook; it's set up like "monochrome" is going to be contrasted by something later in the hook (especially given it's linked) but nothing in the hook mentions the second iteration being multicolored at all. ALT2 also has the issue that it's not mentioned in the article as worded in the hook. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 20:42, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping CanonNi PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 18:35, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- PCN02WPS Thanks for the ping. Yeah... ALT2 isn't that good either. The information in ALT1 is mentioned in the gameplay section, and I could reword it so that it's similar to the hook. Another possible hook (ALT3) could be "... that in later stages of the game Shapez 2, players will need to supply four thousand copies of the same shape every minute?" The source is this RPS review. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 02:08, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @CanonNi: ALT3 is my favorite. But, again, it is not mentioned in the article. This is a necessity for DYK, see WP:DYKHFC. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @PCN02WPS: Sorry for the late reply; I was quite busy last week. Thanks for pointing the issue out. I'll add the information in ALT3 to the article now. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 10:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- @CanonNi: ALT3 is my favorite. But, again, it is not mentioned in the article. This is a necessity for DYK, see WP:DYKHFC. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- PCN02WPS Thanks for the ping. Yeah... ALT2 isn't that good either. The information in ALT1 is mentioned in the gameplay section, and I could reword it so that it's similar to the hook. Another possible hook (ALT3) could be "... that in later stages of the game Shapez 2, players will need to supply four thousand copies of the same shape every minute?" The source is this RPS review. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 02:08, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
I would like to note that the current image shown is from the original Shapez, and not Shapez 2. 64.39.209.163 (talk) 16:53, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @CanonNi: the fact in the article still does not match the hook. If the IP user above me is correct, the picture will probably need to be dropped or changed as well. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 14:57, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also, looking again at the source, it seems as though this need for 4,000 shapes per minute is a result of this particular user's save file and is not necessarily an unavoidable requirement within the game. As such, I think ALT3 might be slightly misleading in its wording. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:00, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Reminder ping CanonNi PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:41, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
@CanonNi: Given that all of the above hooks violate at least the spirit of WP:DYKFICTION if not the letter as well, I will close this if I don't see an WP:DYKINTeresting hook in the next 24 hours.--Launchballer 16:48, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 27
[edit]Henry Bubb
![Henry Bubb in September 1937](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Henry_Bubb_in_September_1937.jpg/125px-Henry_Bubb_in_September_1937.jpg)
- ... that Henry Bubb (pictured) started as a loan clerk before becoming the president of Capitol Federal Savings Bank 15 years later? Source: "Henry A. Bubb". Kansas Business Hall of Fame. Retrieved 2024-07-24.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
- Comment: Thanks for the review!
Bsoyka (t • c • g) 23:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC).
- I will take this review. Dwkaminski (talk) 20:43, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- see comments below
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- hook says he started as loan clerk but source only states clerk
- Interesting:
- Interesting but perhaps a slight rewrite? Current phrasing makes it seem like he went straight from clerk to president. Also leaves out his role as chairman. Something like "Henry Bubb started as a clerk and became/moved up/progressed to president and chairman of the board of Capitol Federal Savings Bank 15 years later"
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Overall: Dwkaminski (talk) 20:46, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sourcing:
- I can't view the ancestry.com page for reference #1 but AGF. Ancestry.com is allowed by WP:ELPEREN for official documents such as birth certificate
- I'm less forgiving on reference #2 - the reference quotes census but the link goes to Ancestry.com. Is it really necessary to state that "at some point he lived in Gallatin County, Montana"? Recommend to remove due to reliance on non WP:RS. The ksbf.org reference states that he moved to Topeka at an early age and Daily Gazette says Topeka was home since infancy.
- OK for usage of ancestry.com for marriage license for reference #4 and draft card for reference #5
- I can't view newspaper.com for reference #7 but AGF
- ksbf.org reference does not support "Bubb was the president of the United States Savings and Loan League from 1949 to 1950....and the University of Kansas (KU) Alumni Association " statements in career section
- "He was a member of.... (including as the board chairman)" not supported by New York Times reference and "the KU Athletic Board, and the Washburn University Board of Regents." not supported by KBHF ref.
- Plagiarism free:
- Earwing copyvio shows 12.3% - violation unlikely
- Are we sure that this hook is interesting? It seems like quite a straightforward career progression. If he had started out as a casino dealer, that would be attention-grabbing. Surtsicna (talk) 16:23, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- It's not every clerk that reaches the level of business success that Bubb achieved. Is it the most interesting fact in the world? No. Are there more interesting facts in the article? Not really - maybe the fact that he received a distinguished service citation from the U.S. Treasury for World War II War Bonds. Am I willing to reject this submission because it is not the most interesting fact? No. Dwkaminski (talk) 15:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've listed the review as maybe. See the comments above. No source given for loan clerk vs. clerk in the hook. Some other minor issues with sourcing that should be correctable. Please let me know if you have any questions. Dwkaminski (talk) 15:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Bsoyka: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:46, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720 and Dwkaminski: The nominator hasn't been active since August. Is anyone willing to adopt the nomination? If not, the nomination may have to be closed as abandoned. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:05, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 28
[edit]Center squeeze
![Distribution of winning candidates under RCV, showing a bias towards extremes](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Center_squeeze_grid.png/151px-Center_squeeze_grid.png)
... that in Burlington's second election using ranked-choice voting, independent Bob Kiss was elected despite his opponent being preferred by over half the voters?ALT0a:... that in Burlington's second election by ranked-choice voting, Bob Kiss was elected despite his opponent being preferred by a majority of voters?
*ALT0b:... that in Alaska's first election by ranked-choice voting, Mary Peltola was elected despite her opponent Nick Begich being preferred by a majority of voters?- ALT1a:... that candidates can win under ranked-choice voting, even if their opponent is preferred by more than half of all voters?
- ALT1b:... that a candidate can win under ranked-choice voting even if their opponent is preferred by more than half of all voters?
- ALT2a:... that ranked-choice voting tends to favor extremists over consensus picks?
- Reviewed:
Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 01:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC).
This is more of a comment than a review for now, but I have some reservations about the hook. For instance, the subject of the hook is Center squeeze, but the article is more about Burlington's second election. Unless you want to make it a double hook, I'm not sure if the current hook as written is appropriate or at least meets WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE regarding hooks being primarily about the subject. My suggestion would be to write a hook that's specifically about Center squeeze itself (perhaps something about its spoiler effect?), as opposed to a specific example. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:20, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, maybe? I'm a bit torn, since I feel like concrete examples make it easier to understand the topic. I've added some possible alternatives, though.– Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 17:03, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1a might have potential, but it's currently a WP:SEAOFBLUE and so may need to be fixed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:14, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed as best I could in Alt1b. I also added Alt0a, because I think an example of center squeeze is closely related (enough to satisfy the DYK guideline). I've also suggested the example of the AK special election, since I think it gets brought up in the lead of the article.– Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 15:59, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1a might have potential, but it's currently a WP:SEAOFBLUE and so may need to be fixed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:14, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, maybe? I'm a bit torn, since I feel like concrete examples make it easier to understand the topic. I've added some possible alternatives, though.– Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 17:03, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've done some formatting to the hooks which may or may not rectify your concerns.--Launchballer 12:43, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you, the new hooks should work. Given how the hooks based on examples are not only specific but may require specialist knowledge, I've struck them. The nom is ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Closed Limelike Curves: There are huge amounts of unsourced content in this! Please fix them. When you've done that, I will give this a proper review.--Launchballer 11:07, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Fixed. – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 00:57, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I still see unsourced content.--Launchballer 07:42, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Fixed. – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 00:57, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Closed Limelike Curves: There are huge amounts of unsourced content in this! Please fix them. When you've done that, I will give this a proper review.--Launchballer 11:07, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've done some formatting to the hooks which may or may not rectify your concerns.--Launchballer 12:43, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
J1407b
- ... that the "Super Saturn" exoplanet J1407b might actually turn out to be a free-floating planet or brown dwarf?
- Source: "Issues with the stability of any rings combined with the lack of detection of another eclipse, suggests that J1407b may not be bound to J1407." Mentel, R. T.; et al. (2018). "Constraining the period of the ringed secondary companion to the young star J1407 with photographic plates". Astronomy & Astrophysics.; "...the object we called J1407b is floating freely through the Galaxy, and just happened to pass in front of a very young star." Kenworthy, M. A. J1407b. (2024)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/White bear of Henry III
- Comment: The J1407b article was converted from redirect into article as a result of a split from the V1400 Centauri article. I began slowly expanding V1400 Centauri on 8 July 2024, but I did not add much to the J1407b section until 24 July 2024. As of today, it's been 5 days since I significantly expanded the J1407b section. Also, the image is optional; I'm fine whether it is used or not.
Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 20:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: @Nrco0e: Hey, nice work on this article. I just took a look at your previous DYK entries, and this one is slightly different. Per WP:DYKHOOK, "The hook should include a definite fact that is unlikely to change, and citations in the article that are used to support the hook fact must verify the hook and be reliable." Do we know for a fact that J1407b might be a free-floating planet or a brown dwarf? It doesn't seem so. Your current version says it is not a brown dwarf. This hook also gives the impression of WP:CRYSTAL. What do you think? Can you come up with other hooks or do you personally believe this follows the rules? Viriditas (talk) 22:01, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Nrco0e: my guess is you are busy with school, but pinging you just in case that helps draw your attention by the weekend. Viriditas (talk) 20:12, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- @ජපස: I could use your guidance. Could you review my comments up above? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 22:26, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am actually okay with the hook. Brown dwarf seems to not be ruled out and the crucial word "might" makes it facilely correct whether or not it is actually this way or that! There is even a small chance that this thing is just an extremely eccentric orbit, though the chances of this are slim to none. :) jps (talk) 22:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @ජපස: I'm with you. The problem is that the lead of the article currently says "Mamajek's team initially hypothesized that J1407b is an exoplanet or brown dwarf orbiting the star, but that has since been disfavored by later studies", so if we run this hook it will sound incorrect. Could you maybe take a look at the article when you have some time and make any necessary adjustments or propose a new hook? There's also the slight problem that DYK tends to favor hooks that consist of facts that don't change. Thanks, and there's no hurry on any of this. Viriditas (talk) 22:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, you mean because someone might think get confused and think the brown dwarf was not free-floating? It is the orbit that is disfavored as opposed to the identification of the object's planet vs. brown dwarf status. jps (talk) 22:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Right. Any way to clarify that? Viriditas (talk) 22:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- ... that when J1407b (which is either an exoplanet or brown dwarf) was discovered, it was thought likely to be orbiting the star V1400 Centauri, but current evidence implies it is more likely free-floating? jps (talk) 23:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @ජපස and Viriditas: Hi, yes, I've been really busy with school and other personal matters, so I apologize for the delay. jps, I think your hook is good, but I think it needs to mention that J1407b has a disk/ring system, since that is what J1407b is most known for. In that case, perhaps you can say this below?
- ... that when J1407b (a ringed exoplanet or brown dwarf) was discovered, it was thought to be orbiting the star V1400 Centauri, but current evidence implies it is more likely free-floating?
- I feel like that the parenthetical part of this hook can be eliminated to make it more concise (i.e. say "when the ringed exoplanet or brown dwarf J1407b was discovered"), but I'm not sure if it flows any better, so I'd like to hear what you two think. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 00:44, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, this is what we call the "riffing" stage. Parentheticals aren’t really allowed in hooks. Viriditas (talk) 01:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think we should stick with one or the other. Personally, if I had to choose, I would not say anything about the rings/disk. The lack of a repeated transit is more interesting. But, alternatively, you could say something like "... that J1407b is either a brown dwarf with a protoplanetary disk or a ringed exoplanet." jps (talk) 01:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Adding below. Please change or add as necessary. Viriditas (talk) 21:17, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note, the proposed caption for the image is likely too long and needs to be trimmed. Viriditas (talk) 21:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: I'm leaning towards ALT1. The lede of the J1407b article states it is a substellar object (an umbrella term including exoplanets and brown dwarfs), so I think ALT2 would be confusing to the layman. I did change the wording of ALT2 for clarity since the original sounded like J1407b had either a disk or ringed exoplanet, although it still doesn't resolve this aforementioned issue. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 23:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. Can you please trim the lead image caption? I don't think they will allow a long caption like that. Viriditas (talk) 23:03, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: How short does the caption have to be? Would "Illustration of a brown dwarf surrounded by a protoplanetary disk" be enough or does that caption sound too unrelated to the subject? If the latter is an issue, would it work to include "like J1407b" somewhere in the caption? Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 23:11, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure, but "Illustration of a brown dwarf surrounded by a protoplanetary disk" sounds perfect to me, and if there's a problem, others will deal with it. Even better would be "Illus. of a brown dwarf surrounded by a protoplanetary disk" but I don't know if that's gospel. Viriditas (talk) 23:26, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Got it, I've changed the caption. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 23:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure, but "Illustration of a brown dwarf surrounded by a protoplanetary disk" sounds perfect to me, and if there's a problem, others will deal with it. Even better would be "Illus. of a brown dwarf surrounded by a protoplanetary disk" but I don't know if that's gospel. Viriditas (talk) 23:26, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: How short does the caption have to be? Would "Illustration of a brown dwarf surrounded by a protoplanetary disk" be enough or does that caption sound too unrelated to the subject? If the latter is an issue, would it work to include "like J1407b" somewhere in the caption? Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 23:11, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. Can you please trim the lead image caption? I don't think they will allow a long caption like that. Viriditas (talk) 23:03, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: I'm leaning towards ALT1. The lede of the J1407b article states it is a substellar object (an umbrella term including exoplanets and brown dwarfs), so I think ALT2 would be confusing to the layman. I did change the wording of ALT2 for clarity since the original sounded like J1407b had either a disk or ringed exoplanet, although it still doesn't resolve this aforementioned issue. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 23:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note, the proposed caption for the image is likely too long and needs to be trimmed. Viriditas (talk) 21:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Adding below. Please change or add as necessary. Viriditas (talk) 21:17, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- @ජපස and Viriditas: Hi, yes, I've been really busy with school and other personal matters, so I apologize for the delay. jps, I think your hook is good, but I think it needs to mention that J1407b has a disk/ring system, since that is what J1407b is most known for. In that case, perhaps you can say this below?
- ... that when J1407b (which is either an exoplanet or brown dwarf) was discovered, it was thought likely to be orbiting the star V1400 Centauri, but current evidence implies it is more likely free-floating? jps (talk) 23:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Right. Any way to clarify that? Viriditas (talk) 22:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, you mean because someone might think get confused and think the brown dwarf was not free-floating? It is the orbit that is disfavored as opposed to the identification of the object's planet vs. brown dwarf status. jps (talk) 22:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @ජපස: I'm with you. The problem is that the lead of the article currently says "Mamajek's team initially hypothesized that J1407b is an exoplanet or brown dwarf orbiting the star, but that has since been disfavored by later studies", so if we run this hook it will sound incorrect. Could you maybe take a look at the article when you have some time and make any necessary adjustments or propose a new hook? There's also the slight problem that DYK tends to favor hooks that consist of facts that don't change. Thanks, and there's no hurry on any of this. Viriditas (talk) 22:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am actually okay with the hook. Brown dwarf seems to not be ruled out and the crucial word "might" makes it facilely correct whether or not it is actually this way or that! There is even a small chance that this thing is just an extremely eccentric orbit, though the chances of this are slim to none. :) jps (talk) 22:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Nrco0e and ජපස: Earwig doesn't like this:
Mark J. Pecaut, a then-graduate student under the supervision of Eric E. Mamajek at the University of Rochester discovered...
Can you paraphrase and reword? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 01:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)- Seems like excessive detail to me. The names of discoverers are also a bit of a throwback. Unless there was much mention in the media or something about attributing the discovery, it devalues the team nature of how science is actually done. jps (talk) 10:48, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Good point. I will look during my second read through. Do you think the lead section is too dense for the general reader? I know the body is, but it's not too difficult to get through. My only issue is that some of it was kind of boring and I thought the prose could be a touch more exciting particularly in terms of summarizing each section in the first sentence, so the reader knows what's coming and is prepared for the details. I would like to close this soon so I'm going to try and expedite this review. Has everyone chosen the best hook? Viriditas (talk) 20:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @ජපස: Can you clarify what you mean by "devalues the team nature of how science is actually done"? I mention Pecaut and Mamajek in the article because that's what Kenworthy says in his website (ref 8). Other news sources from 2012 explicitly say Pecaut and Mamajek discovered the eclipse.[2][3] I mention the other collaborators of Pecaut and Mamajek in the sentences about the conference and journal paper because that's where they first appear in. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 17:00, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, don't read too much into it. The game is to attribute to one or two people these sorts of discoveries, but we stand on the shoulders of giants. I don't object to you identifying these two as the discoverers. For our purposes, they are. It's just that discovery provenance is caught up in a lot of problematic narratives associated with science, "discovery", and the like. In any case, it's not that big of a deal. Just a thought that perhaps we don't necessarily need to mention who discovered it in a hook. jps (talk) 17:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, alright. Thanks for clearing it up.Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 17:31, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @ජපස: I don't think I'd vote for any hook that mentions the discoverers, and none of the proposed hooks do, so that's kind of a moot point. I suggest we move discussions about the general ethics of science to somewhere else (this thread is getting long enough by itself). Renerpho (talk) 03:27, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, alright. Thanks for clearing it up.Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 17:31, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, don't read too much into it. The game is to attribute to one or two people these sorts of discoveries, but we stand on the shoulders of giants. I don't object to you identifying these two as the discoverers. For our purposes, they are. It's just that discovery provenance is caught up in a lot of problematic narratives associated with science, "discovery", and the like. In any case, it's not that big of a deal. Just a thought that perhaps we don't necessarily need to mention who discovered it in a hook. jps (talk) 17:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Reworded the sentence. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 17:04, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @ජපස: Can you clarify what you mean by "devalues the team nature of how science is actually done"? I mention Pecaut and Mamajek in the article because that's what Kenworthy says in his website (ref 8). Other news sources from 2012 explicitly say Pecaut and Mamajek discovered the eclipse.[2][3] I mention the other collaborators of Pecaut and Mamajek in the sentences about the conference and journal paper because that's where they first appear in. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 17:00, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Good point. I will look during my second read through. Do you think the lead section is too dense for the general reader? I know the body is, but it's not too difficult to get through. My only issue is that some of it was kind of boring and I thought the prose could be a touch more exciting particularly in terms of summarizing each section in the first sentence, so the reader knows what's coming and is prepared for the details. I would like to close this soon so I'm going to try and expedite this review. Has everyone chosen the best hook? Viriditas (talk) 20:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Seems like excessive detail to me. The names of discoverers are also a bit of a throwback. Unless there was much mention in the media or something about attributing the discovery, it devalues the team nature of how science is actually done. jps (talk) 10:48, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Lead:
It was first detected by telescopes of the Super Wide Angle Search for Planets (SuperWASP) and All Sky Automated Survey (ASAS) projects in April–June 2007
. Any reason to include the "April-June" part and just say 2007 instead? Works better for the reader, and there's no reason to know the months here, is there? Viriditas (talk) 02:04, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Astronomers Mark Pecaut and Eric Mamajek
Do we really need a link to astronomers here? Viriditas (talk) 02:05, 30 August 2024 (UTC)- I would say "no". jps (talk) 10:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I changed it to "team of astronomers". @ජපස: I was just looking at various versions of this subject on other language projects. What I found interesting is how different sites treat the subject. For example, at es, the authors write "J1407b is probably a brown dwarf that is not gravitationally attracted by a star", whereas we take a more ambiguous POV. Just wondering what you think of this. Another thing I've noticed is that the other sites are also very easy to read and understand, whereas this article has somewhat unnecessarily complex and confusing language that talks around the subject rather than just directly stating the knowns and unknowns. Viriditas (talk) 21:33, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 seems fine to me. The Spanish article is simpler, at the expense of being wrong (working with an outdated mass estimate in the lede). I appreciate the English version for being thorough, and more careful with keeping apart the different hypothesis. Yes, that makes the article more complex, but I'll prefer that to an oversimplification any day. That said, I also agree that the lede can be made simpler and more concise without losing much. Renerpho (talk) 06:58, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. I'm still standing with ALT1 as I have mentioned earlier. And yes, the other language Wikipedia articles on J1407b are outdated and have not been edited and updated as thoroughly as what I have done to the English article. I personally don't think using these other language Wikipedia articles is really a clear-cut way of qualifying the article. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 17:00, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 seems fine to me. The Spanish article is simpler, at the expense of being wrong (working with an outdated mass estimate in the lede). I appreciate the English version for being thorough, and more careful with keeping apart the different hypothesis. Yes, that makes the article more complex, but I'll prefer that to an oversimplification any day. That said, I also agree that the lede can be made simpler and more concise without losing much. Renerpho (talk) 06:58, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- I changed it to "team of astronomers". @ජපස: I was just looking at various versions of this subject on other language projects. What I found interesting is how different sites treat the subject. For example, at es, the authors write "J1407b is probably a brown dwarf that is not gravitationally attracted by a star", whereas we take a more ambiguous POV. Just wondering what you think of this. Another thing I've noticed is that the other sites are also very easy to read and understand, whereas this article has somewhat unnecessarily complex and confusing language that talks around the subject rather than just directly stating the knowns and unknowns. Viriditas (talk) 21:33, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would say "no". jps (talk) 10:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Nrco0e and ජපස: Earwig doesn't like this:
- @ජපස and Nrco0e: I've been reading our project pages on the same topic and they basically all share one thing in common that is different from this page. They generalize in the lead and present just the bare facts, and I think that's missing here. We have to assume that most of our readers are not astronomers and astrophysicists. For example, I still find this statement confusing based on the way it is written: "Mamajek's team initially hypothesized that J1407b is an exoplanet or brown dwarf orbiting the star, but that has since been disfavored by later studies". We don't even need to go into all of that. Just fix the lead so that first sentence states right away at the beginning that J1407b is either an an exoplanet or brown dwarf that is likely a free-floating object. Then, from there, once the reader understands what exactly it is they are reading, you can go into the nitty gritty. I have read this six times and I still think the lead is too detailed, particularly in the first paragraph. Give us a dumbed down first paragraph, and I think you should be fine slowly introducing the reader to more details. Viriditas (talk) 20:34, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
How about this for the lede section?
J1407b is a substellar object, possibly a free-floating planet, with a massive ring system or circumplanetary disk. It was first detected in 2007 when its rings eclipsed the star V1400 Centauri, causing a series of dimming events for 56 days. J1407b's rings span a radius of about 90 million kilometers (56 million miles) and may eventually form moons over time. Although initially thought to be orbiting V1400 Centauri, later studies suggest J1407b is likely an unbound object passing in front of the star.
This is stripped down to what I think is the bare minimum. Everything else can (and is) handled in the article body. The Spanish Wikipedia article adds a mass estimate, but I think that's not essential (not to mention that it's a bit tricky, and the Spanish version gets it wrong). Renerpho (talk) 07:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- I went ahead and replaced the lede. Renerpho (talk) 07:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that when J1407b was discovered, it was thought to be orbiting the star V1400 Centauri, but current evidence implies it is more likely free-floating?
- ALT2: ... that J1407b is either a brown dwarf with a protoplanetary disk or an exoplanet with a massive ring system?
- ALT3: ... that the "Super Saturn" exoplanet J1407b might turn out to be a free-floating planet or brown dwarf?
- Review
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Overall: Still need to choose a hook. What is the preference of the nom (and others), based on ALT1, ALT2, and ALT3? I would like to see the readable prose in the lead tightened up a bit, but this is not a requirement for DYK, but I do find the lead section less than ideal for general readers per my comments up above. Viriditas (talk) 21:00, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, everyone, I tried to close the deal, but with nobody responding or too busy, I’m afraid my time has run out. I’m going on vacation for the next month. I will put in a request for a second look on the main page. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 05:47, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- The lede has been replaced. I hope someone picks this up for review! Renerpho (talk) 07:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
@Renerpho: Lede's fine for DYK, you'll want to expand it for GA. (WP:LEADLENGTH is as useless as a chocolate teapot but my personal rule of thumb is about one sentence per paragraph.) Not sure I like any of the hooks (WP:DYKDEFINITE doesn't like 'current'/'either'/'might'); I propose ALT4: ... that J1407b caused a series of significant dimming events between 7 April and 4 June 2007?--Launchballer 09:29, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Nrco0e: Thought Renerpho was the nominator.--Launchballer 09:31, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Battle of Tinzaouaten (2024)
... that the Battle of Tinzaouaten likely saw the Wagner Group's largest death toll in Mali since its deployment there in 2021?
- Source: Bloomberg
- ALT1: ... that Ukraine's Main Directorate of Intelligence said that it provided Tuareg rebels assistance that enabled their victory in a battle against Wagner Group mercenaries in Mali?
- Source: The Guardian
- Reviewed:
Chomik! (talk?) 17:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC).
- @Chomik: can you pick a hook that's more definitive? "Likely" sounds ambiguous and usually requires attribution.VR (Please ping on reply) 14:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Vice regent: most sources agree that this was the Wagner Group's biggest loss in Mali ([4] [5] [6]) but I'm not sure if it would be acceptable to remove the word "likely" since there's no confirmed death toll. If not, I could change the hook to be about Ukraine's involvement. Chomik! (talk?) 14:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- If the toll is not confirmed best not to use it as a hook. Ukraine's involvement does sound more interesting.VR (Please ping on reply) 16:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Vice regent: added an alt hook about Ukraine. Chomik! (talk?) 17:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- It looks good as it is. I would prefer "that Ukraine said it provided Tuareg rebels with assistance in their successful ambush of Wagner Group mercenaries in Mali?" As I said on talk this was more of an ambush. But I think your alt is fine too.VR (Please ping on reply) 22:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Vice regent: added an alt hook about Ukraine. Chomik! (talk?) 17:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- If the toll is not confirmed best not to use it as a hook. Ukraine's involvement does sound more interesting.VR (Please ping on reply) 16:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Full review needed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Will take, probably tomorrow. For now, striking ALT0.--Launchballer 14:32, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
@Chomik1129: Long enough, new enough. No copyright concerns, no maintenance templates deserved, no QPQ needed. The hook does not meet WP:DYKINT - please propose a hook that is unusual or intriguing to a broad audience.--Launchballer 07:43, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Will take, probably tomorrow. For now, striking ALT0.--Launchballer 14:32, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 29
[edit]Auckland Central in the 2020 New Zealand general election
- ... that Chlöe Swarbrick won the race for Auckland Central in the 2020 New Zealand general election, the first time a Green candidate had won an electorate without major party endorsement?
- Source: "The Green MP was still pinching herself today after claiming her party's second-ever electorate seat and the first without a major party endorsement." link
- Reviewed:
TheLoyalOrder (talk) 10:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC).
- Reviewing this. On first look, the "Declined" section has to have a ref. I suppose the "Declared" section does not need a separate ref as those are the same people in the "Results" section but other people may think otherwise. In the "Background" section, the background ref has to have a ref on electoral system. Full review to come later. Howard the Duck (talk) 04:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Kia ora, I have done the things in this comment.TheLoyalOrder (talk) 09:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, due to unforeseen personal circumstances, I won't be able to continue the review. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I'd be interested in taking over this review if needed @Howard the Duck:. Ornithoptera (talk) 07:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, no worries! Howard the Duck (talk) 11:37, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I'd be interested in taking over this review if needed @Howard the Duck:. Ornithoptera (talk) 07:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, due to unforeseen personal circumstances, I won't be able to continue the review. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Kia ora, I have done the things in this comment.TheLoyalOrder (talk) 09:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Full review needed; Ornithoptera, are you still interested in doing one? BlueMoonset (talk) 10:28, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, my apologies BlueMoonset, been away from Wiki a bit due to a loss in the family. Since things have winded down, I'll try and look at the article later this week. Apologies for any inconvenience caused. Ornithoptera (talk) 00:27, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: This is the second oldest fully unreviewed nom and I unexpectedly need a second QPQ (ironically for Gigi Perez, who went viral for a song about her late sister!). Do you still plan on reviewing this or should I take over, probably tomorrow?--Launchballer 14:34, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer, it seems like you needed a second QPQ so you're more than welcome to take over, my apologies for the delay. The loss in the family has affected a lot of my concentration more than I would have expected as of late. Cheers Ornithoptera (talk) 21:35, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: This is the second oldest fully unreviewed nom and I unexpectedly need a second QPQ (ironically for Gigi Perez, who went viral for a song about her late sister!). Do you still plan on reviewing this or should I take over, probably tomorrow?--Launchballer 14:34, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- @TheLoyalOrder: I've tried to review this a few times, but I can't get past the fact that the Background section goes into way too much detail for a daughter article (to give one example out of several, content about the electorate should be at Auckland Central). Please cut this right down. When you've done that, I'll try again.--Launchballer 10:04, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Codex Basiliensis A. N. IV. 1
- ... that Codex Basiliensis A. N. IV. 1, a manuscript of the New Testament, was marked with red chalk for it to be used as a page-template for the first published printed edition of the New Testament?
- Source: Scrivener, Frederick Henry Ambrose; Edward Miller (1894). A Plain Introduction to the Criticism of the New Testament. Vol. 1 (4th ed.). London: George Bell & Sons. p. 191.
- Reviewed:
Stephen Walch (talk) 20:00, 29 July 2024 (UTC).
The hook as currently written may be too specialist for general readers; as in, it may be hard to understand for those unfamiliar with the relevant fields (in this case, Biblical studies). The hook fact itself might still have potential, it's just that the hook probably needs rephrasing. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:25, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- How about:
- that a manuscript of the New Testament called Codex Basiliensis A. N. IV. 1, was used as a page-template for the first published printed edition of the New Testament by its editor, Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus?
- Or:
- that Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus used Codex Basiliensis A. N. IV. 1 as a page template for his first published printed edition of the New Testament, marking it with red chalk?
- Want to try and get a mention of the red-chalk marks in if possible :D Stephen Walch (talk) 14:57, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- I still think the hook is rather specialist or too reliant on being familiar with Biblical studies. I'm not sure who else to ask for help with, so I'll see if I can ask for help over at WT:DYK regarding a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:46, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I cannot grasp the importance of the red chalk from either the hook or the article. From the article, red chalk was used to mark changes, by one or more people. What makes this so unusual that it is worth mentioning in the hook? Did texts not often get changes, or is there something unusual about the material? CMD (talk) 10:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @User:Chipmunkdavis - Ancient manuscripts aren't usually written on or marked up by anyone these days: the idea that someone would mark or deface an artefact fills most modern people with dread; that a written manuscript of the NT was, to quote Scrivener, "barbarously scored with red chalk" is quite telling of this even from the 19th century. The MS and how it was used is also very important in the history of printed books, as this was the manuscript used for the first ever published printed Greek NT. Evidently I need to think of a how to word the hook to get this across. :) Stephen Walch (talk) 14:20, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Stephen Walch: Heads up, "New Testament" is a WP:COMMONTERM, so you could probably get away with starting ALT0 at "a manuscript of the New Testament". I'd also lose everything after "template" for interest purposes and replace "it to be used as a page-" with "use as a" for concision. This should simplify the hook somewhat and give you some room to put a quote in there.--Launchballer 11:20, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer:: thanks very much for the suggested improvements. How about then:
- ...that a manuscript of the New Testament was "barbarous scored with red chalk" when used as a page-template for the first published printed edition of the New Testament?
- Source: Scrivener, Frederick Henry Ambrose; Edward Miller (1894). A Plain Introduction to the Criticism of the New Testament. Vol. 1 (4th ed.). London: George Bell & Sons. p. 191.
- Think that works as a decent hook? :) Stephen Walch (talk) 19:37, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- It's better, but I think it's recursive to include "New Testament" twice and that the hook would be more interesting if it left off what it was being used for.--Launchballer 20:48, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer:: thanks very much for the suggested improvements. How about then:
- @Stephen Walch: Heads up, "New Testament" is a WP:COMMONTERM, so you could probably get away with starting ALT0 at "a manuscript of the New Testament". I'd also lose everything after "template" for interest purposes and replace "it to be used as a page-" with "use as a" for concision. This should simplify the hook somewhat and give you some room to put a quote in there.--Launchballer 11:20, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @User:Chipmunkdavis - Ancient manuscripts aren't usually written on or marked up by anyone these days: the idea that someone would mark or deface an artefact fills most modern people with dread; that a written manuscript of the NT was, to quote Scrivener, "barbarously scored with red chalk" is quite telling of this even from the 19th century. The MS and how it was used is also very important in the history of printed books, as this was the manuscript used for the first ever published printed Greek NT. Evidently I need to think of a how to word the hook to get this across. :) Stephen Walch (talk) 14:20, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I cannot grasp the importance of the red chalk from either the hook or the article. From the article, red chalk was used to mark changes, by one or more people. What makes this so unusual that it is worth mentioning in the hook? Did texts not often get changes, or is there something unusual about the material? CMD (talk) 10:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 30
[edit]1990 Serbian general election
- ... that the 1990 Serbian general election elected only two women to the National Assembly of Serbia? Source: Stokić, Ljubiša B. (1994). Demokratija i osvajanje vlasti: izbori u Srbiji 1990 [Democracy and the conquest of power: the elections in Serbia in 1990] (in Serbian). Belgrade: Zenit. p. 624. ISBN 86-81987-06-2.
- ALT1: ... that in the 1990 Serbian general election the Socialist Party of Serbia won 78% of seats despite only winning 48% of the popular vote? Source: Martinov, Zlatoje (2000). U podnožju demokratskih propileja: Izbori u Srbiji, 1990–2000 [At the pedestal of the democratic propylaea: Elections in Serbia, 1990–2000] (in Serbian). Belgrade: Republika. p. 26. OCLC 50410508.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1978 Gilbertese Chief Minister election
- Comment: The only issue that might pop up in this DYK nomination is the timespan of the expansion. I began expanding the article on 8 July when it was at 22k. Now, on 30 July, the article is at 177k. The article met the 5x criteria on 15 July, when it reached 112k, but was not finished. If this is really strict, I won't have any problems with the DYK being rejected now, considering that the article is up for GAN so I'll re-nominate it for DYK once it passes the GA review sometime in the future.
Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 12:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC).
- @Vacant0: Not a review, but have you asked at WP:GARC? Some GANs take several months.--Launchballer 13:10, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Or over a year... GARC is a good idea, but the article is long and mostly relies on foreign-language sources, so I'll think about it. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 18:43, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- You are going to want to get this reviewed very quickly, because this isn't eligible at all. At time of nomination, this was 62,005 characters, and it exceeded one fifth of that on the 10th. You're asking for twenty days to be IAR'd. I won't close this as you might get lucky (e.g. Jesu, der du meine Seele, BWV 78) but as it stands, I won't be reviewing this. Also, you should know that 5x is determined by prose size, not byte size - consider installing WP:DYKCHECK.--Launchballer 17:21, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
at this point, the article has sat waiting for a month for resolution, so I think it's best at this point to close and wait for a GAN to pass. I do hope it does, this article looks to be in good shape :) lots of effort very clearly went into it! Best of luck at GAN, hope to see you back around soon. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks!
Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 08:43, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Apple (song)
- ... that a viral dance for Charli XCX's "Apple", in which performers mimic driving a car, was performed by #Amishtiktok content creators? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/music/article/2024/jul/28/apple-dance-charli-xcx-brat-tiktok
Launchballer 10:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC).
- I can't escape this damn album... well let me review what you've got :)
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- I know many Amish families famously disavow all modern forms of technology (though as with any religion there is internal diversity), so there is potential here. However, some tweaking can be done, removing a couple of unnecessary information. Do we need to specify the title of the song, or the platform where the dance went viral? Wrt the article itself, I have some concerns - what makes neonmusic.com, Resident Advisor, and Whynow RS? Furthermore, the article uses two student newspapers. Once these are addressed, I will be glad to look at the hook again. Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 05:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Neonmusic has a proper editorial structure in place, so I'm inclined to trust it. The rest are all attributed opinion. (Whynow and Resident Advisor don't put theirs on their website, however google tells me they both have editors.) Student media "can sometimes be considered reliable on other topics". ALT0a: ... that a viral dance in which performers mimic driving a car was performed by Amish content creators?--Launchballer 07:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer, RSSM also says that "professional sources are typically preferred when available." Surely given the big cultural moment Brat is going through, there are more reliable, professional reviews you can use to replace those student publications. Wrt hook, I would highlight that it was a viral dance from the Internet: perhaps ALT0b: ...that some of the many participants of a recent Internet dance challenge were Amish people? Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 08:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't agree that existence of other coverage has any bearing on whether the student publications should be included. For what they're being used for, i.e. attributed opinion, they're fine. You're right that there is lots of extra coverage of Brat, however Apple wasn't released as a single until very recently and all of the critical reception predates the song going viral, so there's much less of it than you'd think. Surprisingly few critics mentioned it as a highlight. (Much of the coverage went on some of the tracks that actually were singles; most of the hits for ""charli xcx" brat review apple" include phrases like "Apple Music" and "Fiona Apple".) I've added one more WP:EXPERTSPS which I missed when I looked the first time. (You'd need a second reviewer for ALT0b as neither of my hooks mention when the track was released, and I'm tempted to ask them about this as well.)--Launchballer 08:36, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- I see @Ss112: has removed the student reviews. I don't agree with their removal, but I don't feel strongly enough to put them back.--Launchballer 05:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @PSA: Does the above address your concerns, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 19:40, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Z1720 @Launchballer, sorry that I left this in the backburner for quite a while - school had just started and I had to stay away from editing for a bit to keep focus. Now that I'm freer these days though, I looked at the article again and am glad to see the critical reception has been changed to reflect the comments. On that end, it LGTM, but since I proposed another hook myself I might need to get a second opinion
. Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 02:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Fairly sure a new reviewer is only needed where new information is added and that ALT0b is a rewording of ALT0, so you could in theory approve it.--Launchballer 11:58, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
New reviewer needed; the various ALT0 hooks are different enough that an independent review is warranted. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:12, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- New reviewer here, Alt0b doesn't seem like it presents the interest here in my opinion given I'm sure Amish content creators do other dances as well; I'd say a slightly different form of Alt0a, Alt0c: "... that a viral dance in which performers mimic driving a car was performed by Amish content creators, who substituted operating a horse?"? (134 chars) That seems like the most interesting part to me. Hopefully another new reviewer is not needed now. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- That hook is fine by me. (The "unusual or intriguing" bit is in "Amish people have participated in an Internet dance challenge", as the Amish notoriously steer clear of technology.)--Launchballer 06:07, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Fairly sure a new reviewer is only needed where new information is added and that ALT0b is a rewording of ALT0, so you could in theory approve it.--Launchballer 11:58, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Z1720 @Launchballer, sorry that I left this in the backburner for quite a while - school had just started and I had to stay away from editing for a bit to keep focus. Now that I'm freer these days though, I looked at the article again and am glad to see the critical reception has been changed to reflect the comments. On that end, it LGTM, but since I proposed another hook myself I might need to get a second opinion
- @PSA: Does the above address your concerns, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 19:40, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I see @Ss112: has removed the student reviews. I don't agree with their removal, but I don't feel strongly enough to put them back.--Launchballer 05:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't agree that existence of other coverage has any bearing on whether the student publications should be included. For what they're being used for, i.e. attributed opinion, they're fine. You're right that there is lots of extra coverage of Brat, however Apple wasn't released as a single until very recently and all of the critical reception predates the song going viral, so there's much less of it than you'd think. Surprisingly few critics mentioned it as a highlight. (Much of the coverage went on some of the tracks that actually were singles; most of the hits for ""charli xcx" brat review apple" include phrases like "Apple Music" and "Fiona Apple".) I've added one more WP:EXPERTSPS which I missed when I looked the first time. (You'd need a second reviewer for ALT0b as neither of my hooks mention when the track was released, and I'm tempted to ask them about this as well.)--Launchballer 08:36, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer, RSSM also says that "professional sources are typically preferred when available." Surely given the big cultural moment Brat is going through, there are more reliable, professional reviews you can use to replace those student publications. Wrt hook, I would highlight that it was a viral dance from the Internet: perhaps ALT0b: ...that some of the many participants of a recent Internet dance challenge were Amish people? Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 08:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Neonmusic has a proper editorial structure in place, so I'm inclined to trust it. The rest are all attributed opinion. (Whynow and Resident Advisor don't put theirs on their website, however google tells me they both have editors.) Student media "can sometimes be considered reliable on other topics". ALT0a: ... that a viral dance in which performers mimic driving a car was performed by Amish content creators?--Launchballer 07:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
New reviewer needed for ALT0c; the horse is a new fact and should be checked by someone other than Mrfoogles, who proposed the hook. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:14, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 1
[edit]Rabbinic period
![Ruins of the ancient synagogue at Kfar Bar'am](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Ruins_of_the_Ancient_Synagogue_at_Bar%27am.jpg/140px-Ruins_of_the_Ancient_Synagogue_at_Bar%27am.jpg)
- ... that during most of the Rabbinic period, starting in the aftermath of the Bar Kokhba revolt, the center of Jewish life in the Eastern Mediterranean shifted from the now-destroyed Judea to the Galilee?
- Source: Aharon Openheimer, Rebuilding the Jewish Community in the Galilee, in Z. Baras, S. Safrai, M. Stern, Y. Tsafrir (editors), Eretz Israel from the destruction of the Second Temple to the Muslim Conquest, volume one, Jerusalem : Yad Ben Zvi, 1982, ISBN 9652170062 (Hebrew), pages 75-92.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations
Dovidroth (talk) 10:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC).
Reviewing... Flibirigit (talk) 17:50, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: The article was created on August 1, and nominated within seven days. It is long enough and subsequently expanded significantly by User:Mariamnei, so I have added a DYKmake credit accordingly. The article meets sourcing requirements, and is neutral in tone. All of the images used in the article have a free license on the Commons. The nominated picture is clear at a low resolution, and used in the article, but I am unsure of its relevance since the hook is not worded correctly with (pictured) or similar. Please explicity mention how the picture is related to the hook. As for the hook, I'm not sure exactly where it is cited in the article. It seems more like a general overview of the article, rather than any specific point being cited. QPQ is not required for a new nominator. The article is a welcome contribution to Wikipedia, but this nominaton needs some attention to the hook to be promoted to DYK. Flibirigit (talk) 18:09, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you Flibirigit for your review. Here in an alternate hook that I hope will work better with the requirements you mentioned:
- ALT1 ... that the Bar Kokhba revolt ultimately failed and resulted in many Jewish casualties, a general economic downturn and a prohibition on the residence of Jews in Jerusalem and its surrounding area. However, this prohibition was not always enforced, and there appears to have been a small Jewish community in Jerusalem towards the end of the second century.
Sources: Goodman, M. (2000) ‘Judaea’, in A.K. Bowman, P. Garnsey, and D. Rathbone (eds.) The Cambridge Ancient History. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press (The Cambridge Ancient History), pp. 664–678 (Source for first sentence) and S. Safrai, The Holy Assembly of Jerusalem, in Zion 4 (1957), pages 183-193 (Hebrew) (Source for second sentence).
In terms of the image, perhaps we can use the lead image currently in the article:
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Beit_Shearim_in_Lower_Galilee.jpg/220px-Beit_Shearim_in_Lower_Galilee.jpg)
Please let me know if that works. Dovidroth (talk) 12:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- The proposed hook ALT1 is well beyond the 200-character limit. Please see WP:DYKCRIT for guidelines. If needed, I can seek assistance from others to help you propose hooks. Flibirigit (talk) 15:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Kayangan Lake
- ... that Kayangan Lake, located in Coron Island, is regarded as the cleanest lake in Asia?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Oedipus (opera)
- Comment: Gained permission to nom this by DarkNight0917.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
04:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC).
I will do a full review of this later, but for now my main concern is the hook. The claim of it being the cleanest lake in Asia is an exceptional claim, so per WP:DYKHOOK and WP:EXCEPTIONAL would require exceptional sourcing. Right now the article uses The Straits Times as the source for the fact: it is yellow on WP:RSP, which generally means it is to be used with caution on Wikipedia, and its suitability is a case-by-case thing. In this case, it may not be completely safe for it to be what supports the source. Either more independent or stronger sourcing should be found, or a different hook be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:43, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, propose this one: ALT1:... that a tribe performed rituals in a lake to let outsiders use it? Source:TST this hook uses the Straits times, let me know if it's okay or not.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
12:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
ALT1 should be okay as the article isn't about the Singaporean government and there's no reason to doubt that the ST is unreliable in this case. The main issue right now is that part of the article appears to be a close paraphrase of the Straits Times article, so that needs urgent attention. The sourcing in the article isn't the best since it seems to rely on tourist guide websites, but for the purpose of the article it probably isn't disqualifying since they aren't used to support contentious information. As for the rest of the DYK checks, the article is new enough and long enough and a QPQ has been provided. In addition for the need to resolve the close paraphrasing, the article could also use a copyedit. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:05, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- One final suggestion: as the claim of it being the cleanest lake in Asia is an exceptional claim, and I do not believe that the sources provided are exceptional sources, my suggestion would be to make the statement in the article less definitive. Something like "The Straits Times stated that the lake is reputed..." or wording to that effect. Maybe Launchballer can help out here with the wording and copyediting? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:58, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- A possible alternate wording of ALT1, if for whatever reason it does not pass scrutiny, could be something like:
- ALT3 ... that prior to allowing outsiders to visit Kayangan Lake, the Tagbanwa tribe performed a ritual to seek permission from nature spirits?
- It's much longer than ALT2 and I think ALT2 is still suitable, this is just a backup option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will take a look at this when I'm done with Talk:Megan Barton-Hanson/GA1, and I'll get to that when I'm feeling a little more clear-headed. (There's clearly something big there I'm not seeing.)--Launchballer 13:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am really not liking some of the sources used in this article - Journey Era, Philippinetravels.ph, and Richandsunnytravels.ph are all WP:SPS blogs and Guidetothephilippines.ph is a travel agency. What makes them reliable?--Launchballer 14:45, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- They're travel websites that give information about the subject. They aren't ideal, but it's often the case that coverage about less well-known Philippine destinations are lacking. As long as they aren't being used to support contentious information, as in what they're saying is uncontroversial and unlikely to be made up, I don't necessarily see them as a problem for DYK purposes. This isn't aiming for FA or even GA. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Having said that, the claim of it being the cleanest lake in Asia is an exceptional claim, and I'm not comfortable with how it is currently presented as a fact in the article. As stated above, my suggestion would be for it to be attributed to the Straits Times, while also making the presentation less definite. If this isn't addressed, I can't see this article running on DYK since that statement will likely be challenged at WT:DYK and/or WP:ERRORS. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- @TheNuggeteer: Please address the concerns raised above; the nomination may be marked for closure if they are not resolved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:09, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am really not liking some of the sources used in this article - Journey Era, Philippinetravels.ph, and Richandsunnytravels.ph are all WP:SPS blogs and Guidetothephilippines.ph is a travel agency. What makes them reliable?--Launchballer 14:45, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will take a look at this when I'm done with Talk:Megan Barton-Hanson/GA1, and I'll get to that when I'm feeling a little more clear-headed. (There's clearly something big there I'm not seeing.)--Launchballer 13:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Done, added note. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
13:55, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, but the attribution to The Straits Times has to be in-text and not a footnote. So the article should say something like "A The Straits Times article called the lake the cleanest in Asia." or something like that, and even, I'm not even sure if the claim would meet scrutiny to other editors. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @TheNuggeteer and Narutolovehinata5: "Asia's cleanest lake" is a scientific claim, and not one The Straits Times is qualified to make. What even defines "cleanest"? "widely regarded" by scientists, or average people, or who? Hook currently fails verification. Also, are the travel blogs reliable sources? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:39, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I see this came up earlier. Launchballer seems to be right under WP:DYKG, which says that all sources cited need to meet a minimum standard of reliability (i.e. can't be self-published). theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:40, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Oxford zero emission zone
- ... that buses in Oxford accounted for as much as 80% of pollution in the city centre before the low emission zone was launched in 2014?
- Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25557090 "The LEZ [low emission zone] will only apply to buses which account for up 80% of the pollution in the city centre"
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Should be good as this article is just above 1500 characters. My third article.
JuniperChill (talk) 08:57, 2 August 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but there was an excellent piece in Roads.org.uk that talks about this. I'll leave it to you to decide whether he constitutes an WP:EXPERTSPS or not.--Launchballer 09:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ah yes, I never thought about reading that article. It's very useful for readers. I have heard of roads.org.uk but never thought about them publishing a ZEZ article. JuniperChill (talk) 11:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- You might want to do something about the unsourced content in this. (I don't plan on reviewing this any time soon as I review oldest first, but I might pop in and expand it once I've finished the stuff on my to-do list.)--Launchballer 12:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
@JuniperChill: Not a full review, but I have tagged the article with two "citation needed" tags. These need to be resolved before this nomination can be approved. Z1720 (talk) 03:54, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: I added two references to replace the {{cn}}. Should be good JuniperChill (talk) 09:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- You might want to do something about the unsourced content in this. (I don't plan on reviewing this any time soon as I review oldest first, but I might pop in and expand it once I've finished the stuff on my to-do list.)--Launchballer 12:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have modified the hook for what happened after buses accounted for up to 80%. JuniperChill (talk) 15:17, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
This needs a reviewer to look at all the criteria. Z1720 (talk) 11:56, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @JuniperChill: Was about to review, however I see that the phrase "nine streets in Oxford" is in the lead but not in the body and sourced nowhere. This should be rectified.--Launchballer 18:13, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 3
[edit]Asik-Asik Falls
- ... that the Asik-Asik Falls (pictured) were accidentally discovered?
- Source: INQUIRER
ALT1: ... that the Asik-Asik Falls (pictured) became viral after its discovery?Source: INQUIRER-2ALT2: ... that a picture of the Asik-Asik Falls (pictured) won a picture contest?Source: INQUIRER-2- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kimi wa Bara yori Utsukushī
- Comment: Accepted by the author.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
09:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC).
- Here are some more alt hooks:
- ALT3: ... that you can't see what feeds the Asik-Asik Falls (pictured)? Source: INQUIRER-2
- ALT4: ... the Asik-Asik Falls (pictured) aren't fed by a visible source? Source: INQUIRER-2
These are kind of what the falls are really known for, so I think that these would be more interesting. - DarkNight0917 (talk / contr) 23:57, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
new enough, long enough, image is fine, qpq done. some concerns:
- on the verge of rejecting alt0; to discover something, by definition, has to be an accident.
- rejecting alt1; not mentioned in article. also, readers won't know what it means for a waterfall to go viral. it was an image of the falls that went viral, and that's uninteresting, a lot of things go viral.
- rejecting alt2; uninteresting (and probably undue to mention in the article).
- alt3/4's source says that
Where the water comes from is still a mystery.
it's not visible, yes, but it's also not known, unless there's something i'm missing.
- refs 2, 3, and 7 are travel guides/blogs; are these reliable?
It receives over 500 tourists on weekdays and 1,000 on weekends
is cited to a 2014 source and probably outdated
ltbdl☃ (talk) 07:30, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Don't know what's wrong with alt3 and 4, the blogs are reliable since these are usually for expansion and regularly do no harm in DYK. Fixed the outdated thing by adding a note.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
13:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)- @TheNuggeteer:
regularly do no harm
? do you have examples? ltbdl☃ (talk) 17:42, 2 September 2024 (UTC) - @TheNuggeteer: If the article cites blogs with no kind of peer review or editorial process, ltbdl is right that those should be removed before appearing at DYK. Could that be addressed? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:07, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @TheNuggeteer:
Articles created/expanded on August 4
[edit]Articles created/expanded on August 5
[edit]Liberalism in the Philippines
- ... that liberalism in the Philippines was mostly used during revolutions?
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
04:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC).
- @TheNuggeteer: There are multiple {{page needed}} tags on this article. Please rectify them.--Launchballer 23:38, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
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Long enough, new enough. QPQ done. Earwig highlights a couple of phrases, but I can't think of another way of wording them so calling WP:LIMITED. I think the {{improve categories}} template should be resolved. Could you talk me through the sourcing for the hook?--Launchballer 23:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed the improve categories tag, what do you need?
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
03:50, 11 September 2024 (UTC)- I'm not seeing where in the article the hook is spelt out, unless I'm going blind.--Launchballer 09:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed the improve categories tag, what do you need?
Sienna Green
- ... that at 193 centimetres (6 ft 4 in) tall, Australian Olympic water polo player Sienna Green is the tallest person in her family?
- Reviewed: National Hospital Service Reserve
- Comment: Nominated on behalf of an IP editor who will (as usual) provide the QPQ.
Schwede66 11:06, 6 August 2024 (UTC).
- Update: QPQ now added (just so that it doesn't get overlooked). Schwede66 23:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Any better hook than this? Being that tall isn't always uncommon depending on where you're from. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: Pinging for possible additional hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:25, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I can't see a better hook than that. If we don't hear from 2603:7000:2101:AA00:5DFC:4931:AA8F:8FB5 within a few days, I suggest you close that. Schwede66 00:52, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
With no response from the IP and Schwede66 being open to a closure, it unfortunately seems that the article is not a good fit for DYK at this time given the lack of hooky material. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:33, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll give it some thought. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:D919:443A:176C:AE5B (talk) 07:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I can't see a better hook than that. If we don't hear from 2603:7000:2101:AA00:5DFC:4931:AA8F:8FB5 within a few days, I suggest you close that. Schwede66 00:52, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've been musing about the concern that "Being that tall isn't always uncommon depending on where you're from." So I thought I would check.
While I'm not sure what "uncommon" is meant to be in that comment, this site indicates that a 6' 4" woman in Australia would be in the "Extremely Tall 99.999 Percentile". (By way of comparison, our article (for what it is worth) suggests that the average Australian woman 18+ a dozen years ago was a foot or so shorter[9] (N.B. - it also indicates that Australian women are among the tallest 20% in the world).)
She's also 19. Of US women at that age (wrong country, but according to our article, US women are a bit taller than Australian women), that would put her in the 99.9% percentile.
Not that we need more. But the hook does not simply reflect her height - which does given the above appear to be very much uncommon. But points to the fact that she is the tallest in her family. Lmk if you want me to look for evidence that it is, in addition, not common for a 19 year old girl to be the tallest in her family. There are studies that touch on the issue of a child's height relating to the parents' height, as well as there being a marked sex difference in height with women tending to be shorter than men,[10] but I haven't taken the time to find the best one, as I suspect what I've detailed may perhaps suffice.
All-in-all, I think that the assumption that led to the hook being rejected isn't in line with the evidence. Many thanks. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:F804:C954:1D4C:5D11 (talk) 03:33, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- The issue is that simply being the tallest in one's family is not by itself a hooky fact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:03, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Of course it is not. But that ignores your original complaint above - which is what I've addressed directly above. You wrote: "Being that tall isn't always uncommon". I tend to think that being in the 99.999 percentile might, just perhaps, qualify as uncommon.
And, of course, the hook speaks to that fact, as well as the fact that she is the tallest in her family... it's clearly not, as you now suggest, only about her being the tallest in her family. I'm a but confused by your most recent comment. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:A13D:8F1E:26A2:8F66 (talk) 05:49, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
CyberJoly Drim
- ... that an early Polish cyberpunk short story, "CyberJoly Drim" from 1998, aroused a significant controversy in the Polish science fiction and fantasy community? Source: https://ejournals.eu/pliki_artykulu_czasopisma/pelny_tekst/3d32c44d-af77-4c7d-9404-a10a190a3a2c/pobierz
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 6
[edit]Midland Main Line upgrade
- ... that that the electrification of the Midland Main Line north of Kettering was revived in December 2021 after being paused in 2015, then scrapped in July 2017?
- Source: paused scrapped in 2017, then revived
- ALT1: ... that the Midland Main Line electrification project is going at a "snail's pace"? Source: https://westbridgfordwire.com/midland-mainline-electrification-by-2030-in-government-plans/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Azahriah
- Comment: My fifth nomination and I need a QPQ for the first time. Luckily, I did that a few months ago. Also, my first GA article, though I didn't make that
JuniperChill (talk) 20:52, 6 August 2024 (UTC).
- What's surprising or interesting about this hook? "Infrastructure project delayed" is not surprising anywhere in the world, especially an Anglophone country. (t · c) buidhe 04:55, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hopefully this is more interesting, but idk if the wording is the best.
- Alt2: "that when the Midland Main Line was first electrified in the 1980s between London and Bedford, driver-only operation was introduced, leading to industrial dispute?" JuniperChill (talk) 18:03, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Drive-by ALT3: ... that although the electrification of the Midland Main Line was designated high priority in 1981, work to electrify the northern part of the line did not begin until over 30 years later? Kimikel (talk) 02:18, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Kimikel: Remember that the section of the MML south of Bedford was electrified in the 80s. However, north of Bedford, it remained unelectrified until 2019, and it only extends to just south of Leicester, formerly Kettering until July 2024. So maybe adding "north of Bedford" would make more sense. JuniperChill (talk) 10:34, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the correction, just clarified. Kimikel (talk) 21:47, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Kimikel: Remember that the section of the MML south of Bedford was electrified in the 80s. However, north of Bedford, it remained unelectrified until 2019, and it only extends to just south of Leicester, formerly Kettering until July 2024. So maybe adding "north of Bedford" would make more sense. JuniperChill (talk) 10:34, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Alt2: "that when the Midland Main Line was first electrified in the 1980s between London and Bedford, driver-only operation was introduced, leading to industrial dispute?" JuniperChill (talk) 18:03, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Clay Webb
... that Clay Webb was named in a lawsuit concerning bullying that occurred when he was in high school?
- Source: [1]
ALT1: ... that Clay Webb once allegedly encouraged a minor to drink a bottle filled with Webb's semen? Source: [2]- Reviewed:
- Comment: I think the secondary hook grabs your attention more, but I can understand if it is denied because of the vulgar nature concerning it.
TarheelBornBred (talk) 13:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC).
- ALT1 definitely breaches WP:DYKHOOKBLP, probably ALT0 also, and I'd question the WP:DUEness of that entire section per WP:SUSPECT.--Launchballer 22:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
@TarheelBornBred: This needs a new hook.--Launchballer 22:01, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe ALT2: ... that Clay Webb, a five-star recruit from the class of 2019, was named a preseason All-American in 2024? [3] The interesting nature being that it took him from 2019 to 2024 which is an abnormally long stretch of time in college football already. Truthfully, I had the original hook in mind as the main selling point, but I can understand why it won't work. TarheelBornBred (talk) 16:35, 19 August 2024 (UTC).
Full review needed.--Launchballer 19:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
@TarheelBornBred: More of a comment for now rather than a review, but the issue with ALT2 is that it might not meet WP:DYKINT. A reader unfamiliar with college football and its intricacies may not get what "five-star recruit" and "All-American" are, especially if they are outside of America like the majority of readers. Ideally, a hook should be as understandable to as many people as possible without requiring too much context, and I don't think the hook meets that. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:44, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note that I have struck the original hook as the parts about the bullying are no longer in the article. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:13, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @TarheelBornBred: Please address the above.--Launchballer 20:44, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, this totally slipped my mind. Maybe to make it more understandable to readers unfamiliar with college football, the hook could be ALT 3: ...that Clay Webb, a top recruit for the college football class of 2019, was named a preseason candidate for a team of the best college football players in 2024? In my opinion this hook sounds a little more clear to those who might not understand college football. TarheelBornBred (talk) 23:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
- It's more understandable, but probably still too technical for general readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:16, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note that I have struck the original hook as the parts about the bullying are no longer in the article. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:13, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Jackson, Lily (January 3, 2020). "Alleged high school prank, bullying leads to federal suit against former Oxford 5-star recruit". AL.com. Retrieved August 5, 2024.
- ^ Jackson, Lily (January 3, 2020). "Alleged high school prank, bullying leads to federal suit against former Oxford 5-star recruit". AL.com. Retrieved August 5, 2024.
- ^ Londergan, Joe (July 3, 2024). "Jacksonville State Gamecocks' Lineman Named Preseason All-American". Sports Illustrated. Retrieved August 5, 2024.
Articles created/expanded on August 8
[edit]Punam Krishan
- ... that following a string of scandals, the contestants on the twenty second series of the BBC One celebrity dancing competition Strictly Come Dancing included a locum GP (pictured)? Source: https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/views/regulation/new-sessionals-welcome-on-board/ for 'locum'; https://news.sky.com/story/strictly-come-dancing-2024-go-compare-singer-wynne-evans-joins-line-up-13191912 for everything else
ALT1: ... that Dr Punam Krishan (pictured) "learned the hard way to live without patient ‘satisfaction’"? Source: https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/views/regulation/ive-learned-the-hard-way-to-live-without-patient-satisfaction/- ALT1a: ... that Dr Punam Krishan (pictured) "learned the hard way to live without patient 'satisfaction'"?
- ALT2: ... that Dr Punam Krishan (pictured) was raised on curry and Irn-Bru? Source: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17800808.dr-punam-krishan-reality-life-scottish-gp/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chand Sifarish
- Comment:
The contestants for this show are being drip-fed, so I may add articles to this if anyone else lacks an article.(Update August 12: Lineup complete. Shame actually, there were rumours that Sunil Patel might have participated and he's a cryptoentrepreneur.) I'd suggest running this on the day the series starts, probably the 21st of September. (Update 30 August: 14th September, as they're running a special programme at the end of the series.)
Launchballer 11:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC).
- I didn't know what a "locum GP" is. Maybe that's a good thing, as it makes the first hook more "hooky". But can you clarify that in the lead of the article? Eg you can write "is a Scottish locum general practitioner (GP) from Glasgow." Also, in "Early life and medical career" please also clarify what's a "locum"? Might be helpful to link to Locum#United Kingdom healthcare.VR (Please ping on reply) 13:15, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- We have a (somewhat execrable) article about what locum GPs are at sessional GP, a term I've never heard of. I've made some edits to the article.--Launchballer 19:11, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- The original hook is problematic: there's an implied cause and effect—because of the scandals, they've brought in a locum GP—that is nothing of the sort. So I think the special occasion request will need to drop as well. You'll need to fix the single quote marks in ALT1; curly punctuation is against the MOS on Wikipedia. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Proposed ALT1a above. I'm guessing that "the Strictly Come Dancing contestant" would qualify for WP:DYKTRIM, right?--Launchballer 00:04, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 9
[edit]Ajah Pritchard-Lolo
- ... that Ajah Pritchard-Lolo is Vanuatu's first Olympic weightlifter?
- Source: Vanuatu Daily Post says she's the first female weightlifter; however, as per Olympedia, the nation has never had a male weightlifter, thus she is the first regardless of gender
BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:49, 16 August 2024 (UTC).
- @BeanieFan11: Please provide a QPQ as, per the ongoing discussion, consensus is leaning towards making QPQs mandatory at the time of the nomination and noms without QPQs may be closed without warning. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:51, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
Full review needed now that QPQ has been provided.--Launchballer 20:19, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 10
[edit]Mokulubete Makatisi
- ... that Mokulubete Makatisi placed eighth at the Commonwealth Games in the marathon while running in shoes she had never worn before?
- Source: Public Eye News ("Makatisi, 26, finished the race on position eight in the women’s commonwealth marathon last Saturday ... Makatisi’s mentor ... says his athlete has tried very hard despite the setback of having to run in new shoes which she began to use for the first time on the day of the race.")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/William Aitken (architect) (2/4)
BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:27, 17 August 2024 (UTC).
Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 15:45, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- "She competed in the Maputo All-Africa Games in 2011" doesn't seem to be supported by ref 1, so use ref 2 for that (go to statistics -> results -> 2011). Page says 1:09:45 but ref 6 says 1:09:44. No other issues though.
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Should clarify something like how late these shoes were and/or how much they're needed for running, but no other issues.
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Nom one week after creation and size 2330 B. Ref 4 ad 6 is broken, so I used [11] and [12]. @BeanieFan11: fix these issues and I'll approve. You may wanna update the article, but consider this optional. ミラP@Miraclepine 16:23, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Abortion in Africa, Abortion in Senegal, Abortion in Madagascar
... that in Africa, the only countries that have passed reproductive health laws without grounds for legal abortion are Senegal and Madagascar?
- Source: [13] Eleven Sub-Saharan countries have passed reproductive health laws, and nine of them specify grounds for legal abortion (the exceptions are Senegal and Madagascar).
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Upper Skagit Indian Tribe, Template:Did you know nominations/Mama (My Chemical Romance song), Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Neary's
- Comment: I proposed an individual hook at Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Abortion_in_Senegal, so cancel that one if this one is approved.
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 17:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC).
- @Vigilantcosmicpenguin: The source specifies sub-Saharan Africa, so there could be theoretically countries in North Africa that have such laws which are not reflected and thus make the hook inadequate. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:22, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Right, thanks for pointing that out. I could just tweak the hook to specify Sub-Saharan Africa; I think it's still reasonable to link that to the article.
- ... that in Sub-Saharan Africa, the only countries that have passed reproductive health laws without grounds for legal abortion are Senegal and Madagascar?
- The article already specifies this, so it still passes that requirement. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 20:19, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Vigilantcosmicpenguin: I'm planning on reviewing this when I'm not falling asleep, however I suspect that any hook saying that they haven't passed a reproductive health law yet could fall foul of WP:DYKDEFINITE as they could theoretically pass one at any minute. I think this should be futureproofed. Also, I'll be looking to run all three in one hook, so I have closed the individual nom.--Launchballer 23:57, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Human history
- ... that the agricultural and industrial revolutions are key turning points in human history?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that in early human history, humans migrated out of Africa and populated most of the Earth during the Last Ice Age? Source: [2]
- ALT2: ... that for most of human history, children did not have access to public education? Source: [3]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Betty Hanley
- Comment:
References
- ^
- Cajani 2013, § Current Trends
- Christian 2008, pp. 102–103
- ^
- Christian 2015, pp. 316, 400, "Dispersal over an unprecedented swath of the globe...coincided with an Ice Age...by the end of the era of climatic fluctuation, humans occupied almost all the habitats their descendants occupy today"
- Pollack 2010, p. 93
- ^ Scott & Vare 2020, pp. 54–56
- Sources
- Cajani, Luigi (2013). "Periodization". In Bentley, Jerry H. (ed.). The Oxford Handbook of World History. Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-968606-3.
- Christian, David (2008). This Fleeting World: A Short History of Humanity. Berkshire Publishing. ISBN 978-1-933782-04-1.
- Christian, David, ed. (2015). Introducing World History, to 10,000 BCE. The Cambridge World History. Vol. 1. Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/CBO9781139194662. ISBN 978-0-521-76333-2. Archived from the original on 26 January 2023. Retrieved 26 January 2023.
- Pollack, Henry (2010). A World Without Ice. Penguin. ISBN 978-1-101-52485-5.
- Scott, William; Vare, Paul (2020). Learning, Environment and Sustainable Development: A History of Ideas. Routledge. ISBN 978-1-000-20802-3. Archived from the original on 10 December 2023. Retrieved 3 May 2023.
Phlsph7 (talk) 11:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but two friendly comments. First, Agricultural revolution in ALT0 is a disambiguation page (I'm guessing it refers to the First agricultural revolution, which redirects to Neolithic Revolution). Second, if it's possible to make a hook about life expectancy and/or child mortality, that could be a very interesting hook indeed—I know I found John Green's video "Most People Have Never Been 20" interesting. TompaDompa (talk) 12:26, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing this out, I fixed the link. A hook on changes to life expectancy could be interesting. I think the article only covers this in the sentence Advances in medical science led to a sharp increase in global life expectancy from about 31 years in 1900 to over 66 years in 2000.[552], which does not give us much to work with. Maybe:
- ALT3:
... that in modern human history, advances in medical science helped raise global life expectancy from about 31 years in 1900 to over 66 years in 2000. - Phlsph7 (talk) 12:53, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not a big fan of ALT2, which is rather anachronistic: for most of human history, children did not live in societies in which "public education" was a meaningful concept. Given the wide scope of this article, I think a hook that encompasses a broad timescale would make the most sense. – Joe (talk) 11:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Many societies didn't really have public education so children didn't have access to it. Maybe you are concerned about something like the following: some readers may misconstrue the statement as implying that these societies did have public education but just not for most children. This is not what the hook says but it could happen. This problem could be solved by talking about formal education instead of public education but the claim in our article is about public education so this may not be acceptable according to the DYK rules. Phlsph7 (talk) 12:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- What I mean is that 'public education' to be a meaningful concept there first needs to exist the idea of a formal education and a state that provides public services, neither of which existed for "most of human history". In other words I think the hook anachronistically implies that children were missing out on something that was not even conceptualisable until recently. Kind of like saying "for most of human history, satellites did not use reusable launch vehicles". Technically true, but not very meaningful. – Joe (talk) 09:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Can people miss out on something for which they lack the relevant concepts? For example, the ancient Egyptians didn't have the concept of antibiotics. Can we say that "the ancient Egyptians didn't have access to antibiotics"? To my ears, this sounds acceptable. But I'm also open to different ways of expressing the idea. Phlsph7 (talk) 10:56, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- What I mean is that 'public education' to be a meaningful concept there first needs to exist the idea of a formal education and a state that provides public services, neither of which existed for "most of human history". In other words I think the hook anachronistically implies that children were missing out on something that was not even conceptualisable until recently. Kind of like saying "for most of human history, satellites did not use reusable launch vehicles". Technically true, but not very meaningful. – Joe (talk) 09:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Many societies didn't really have public education so children didn't have access to it. Maybe you are concerned about something like the following: some readers may misconstrue the statement as implying that these societies did have public education but just not for most children. This is not what the hook says but it could happen. This problem could be solved by talking about formal education instead of public education but the claim in our article is about public education so this may not be acceptable according to the DYK rules. Phlsph7 (talk) 12:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 is not very well sourced. It cites page 1 of The Twentieth Century: A World History, which doesn't cite any sources for these figures, and a textbook on marketing for the "due to advances in medical science" part, which also doesn't cite a source for this claim. Neither source make it clear what specific measure of life expectancy they're using, but it's probably life expectancy at birth, which was largely a function of infant mortality in premodern societies and therefore the change involved more factors than just medical science (also improvements in public health, contraception, reduction of child poverty and malnourishment, etc). – Joe (talk) 11:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 is not my favorite either but I think the sources fulfill our requirements even though they themselves do not cite other sources for these claims. The hook says "helped raise" to not imply that there were no other factors. Phlsph7 (talk) 12:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say they fulfil the basic requirement of being reliable sources, in this context, per WP:EXCEPTIONAL. But this is probably best continued on the article talk page. – Joe (talk) 09:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- adjusted hook per talk page discussion at Talk:Human_history#Increase_in_life_expectancy:
- ALT3a: ... that in modern human history, public health measures and advances in medical science helped raise global life expectancy from about 31 years in 1900 to over 66 years in 2000?
- Phlsph7 (talk) 07:44, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- adjusted hook per talk page discussion at Talk:Human_history#Increase_in_life_expectancy:
- I wouldn't say they fulfil the basic requirement of being reliable sources, in this context, per WP:EXCEPTIONAL. But this is probably best continued on the article talk page. – Joe (talk) 09:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 is not my favorite either but I think the sources fulfill our requirements even though they themselves do not cite other sources for these claims. The hook says "helped raise" to not imply that there were no other factors. Phlsph7 (talk) 12:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 11
[edit]Jacques Lewis
- ... that Jacques Lewis is believed to have been the last living French veteran of D-Day?
- Source: "Believed to be the last surviving Frenchman to wade ashore with Americans, he was attached to an Army unit that stormed Utah Beach and helped drive Germans out of France."
Thriley (talk) 16:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC). Review
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- The article was copied from the French Wikipedia
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- The NYT source does not support the hook as written because it only covers the US landings but there were British and Canadian beaches on D-Day too. A claim of first/last is a
Redflag and so needs excellent verification.
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
- "Believed" is a weasel word and/or expression of doubt. If this is a definite fact, as it should be, then we should state it as such without such tentative language.
QPQ: - Not provided yet. Note current discussions about limiting nominations on credit like this.
Overall: I'm not sure of the formal status of translations but this review template asks
Is the article free of material copied from other sources?
and it isn't. The article seemed to need some copy-editing and so further work of that kind may soften the issue. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for your review. Will fix up shortly. Thriley (talk) 21:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
ALT1... that Jacques Lewis, a 105 year old French veteran of D-Day, insisted that he participate in a ceremony commemorating the invasion's 80th anniversary? Thriley (talk) 20:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
A House in Jerusalem
- ... that the Netflix-released film A House in Jerusalem tells the story of a British-Jewish child who encounters the ghost of a Palestinian girl in the house where she used to live until 1948?
Makeandtoss (talk) 11:35, 11 August 2024 (UTC).
Not a full review, but as the subject is a work of fiction, a new hook will need to be proposed per WP:DYKFICTION. Essentially, hooks about fictional plots alone aren't allowed on DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for pointing out this guideline.
- ALT1 ... that the director of the Netflix-released film A House in Jerusalem, Muayad Alayan, is a Palestinian whose family was expelled from what had become Israel during the Nakba in 1948? Makeandtoss (talk) 09:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Not too fond of the hook as it seems to be more about the director than the movie itself, but will let a different editor decide. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:59, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the director of the Netflix-released film A House in Jerusalem, Muayad Alayan, is a Palestinian whose family was expelled from what had become Israel during the Nakba in 1948? Makeandtoss (talk) 09:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Council Working Party
- ... that while Council Working Parties formally only prepare decisions by the Council of the European Union, they de facto shape the majority of those decisions? Source: Häge 2016, p. 686 "Formally, working parties only ‘prepare’ the ministers’ work, but de facto, they make the majority of Council decisions."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tamurbek Dawletschin
(claimed, not done)(done)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tamurbek Dawletschin
WatkynBassett (talk) 07:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 14
[edit]Madhavi (princess)
- ... that in Hindu mythology, Madhavi, who was blessed with the miraculous ability to regain her virginity after each childbirth, was married to three kings, each in exchange for 200 rare horses?
- Source: Jamison, Stephanie W. (1996). Sacrificed wife/sacrificer's wife : women, ritual, and hospitality in ancient India. Internet Archive. New York : Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-509663-7., pg 209-210
- ALT1: ... that after fulfilling her duties as a wife to four men, Princess Madhavi chose a life of asceticism, abandoning royal luxuries to seek spiritual fulfillment in the solitude of the forest? Source: Jamison, Stephanie W. (1996). Sacrificed wife/sacrificer's wife : women, ritual, and hospitality in ancient India. Internet Archive. New York : Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-509663-7., pg 210
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is my 4th nomination, so QPQ doesn't apply. Though I created article on 11th Aug, it was completed 2 days back
Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 10:18, 21 August 2024 (UTC).
Hammond's Hard Lines
- ... that depending on the edition, a fairy or a gremlin grants wishes to the titular character of Hammond's Hard Lines?
- Source: "Books of the Day: 'Hammond's Hard Lines'". The Liverpool Mercury. 1901-12-12. p. 10. Retrieved 2024-08-20 – via Newspapers.com. / "Review of Books for Backward Readers". The Slow Learning Child. 3 (3): 173–183. 1957. doi:10.1080/0156655570030308. ISSN 1034-912X. Retrieved 2024-08-20 – via Taylor & Francis Online.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Takara's Treasure
- Comment: A.K.A. C for Charlie (as a handful online have nicknamed the 1957 version for almost a decade and a half now).
Filler project in light of higher-priority AFC tasks; inspired by this August 2024 filing at the Literature StackExchange, which came up on the parent service's "Hot Network Questons" feed one day during my perusal at GIS.SE (I'm currently engaged in a comeback geofictional project). First of two DYK nominations from yours truly today; stay tuned in a few hours for the other one.
Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:21, 20 August 2024 (UTC).
Note that the hook as currently written might possibly not meet WP:DYKFICTION; as such, it will either need to be revised with additional real-world context, or a new hook needs to be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:16, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Slgrandson: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:42, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Hammond's Hard Lines was one of the few school stories to feature fantasy in its plot? Source: Wotton, Joy; Auchmuty, Rosemary, eds. (2000). "Skelton Kuppord (Pseudonym for Sir John Adams)". The Encyclopaedia of School Stories. Ashgate. p. 211. ISBN 0-7546-0083-1. Retrieved 2024-09-08 – via Google Books Snippets.
- ALT1 as currently written is inaccurate: there are countless examples from anime and manga alone, let alone other genres of literature. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Slgrandson: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:42, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
William, Prince of Wales, in film and television
- ... that William, Prince of Wales (pictured), inspired the character Prince Wheeliam in Cars 2?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that William, Prince of Wales (pictured), has no plans to watch his depiction in The Crown? Source: [2]
- ALT2: ... that William, Prince of Wales (pictured), has been depicted by four actors in The Crown? Source: [3]
- ALT3: ... that Prince William's (pictured) marriage ceremony was parodied in an episode of South Park? Source: [4]
- ALT4: ... that William, Prince of Wales (pictured), has appeared in two documentaries about his mother Princess Diana? Source: [5][6]
- Reviewed:
- Comment:
Elevator pitch to increase appeal of subject matter
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Many years ago, European royal families were the most powerful politicians of their countries. Compare that to today, where (aside from Pope Francis) royalty serve as figureheads in kingdoms such as Belgium and Sweden. Or, in the case of the United Kingdom, you have a family of princes as the ultimate form of soft power, appealing to the masses worldwide through their charity work and family milestones. Arguably, nowhere is this soft power more popular (at least for now) than in the form of Prince William, on deck to be king of the birthplace of the English language, the Great White North, Down Under, and 12 other countries. By presenting this article on Did you know, readers will learn much more about the public's fascination with this prince on the big screen and small screen alike. From two films on his wedding to a documentary on his advocacy for climate change, there will be plenty of intrigue and critique that will not disappoint! |
Finally, as a more serious comment, I would like to note that this page's parent article appeared on Did you know less than a year ago as of this post. If this affects eligibility, please let me know.
AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 04:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC).
- I've moved the article to bring it in line with MOS:COMMA, and edited this page accordingly. Ham II (talk) 07:51, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Reynolds, Simon (20 April 2011). "Vanessa Redgrave to voice the Queen in 'Cars 2'". Digital Spy. Sky Digital. Retrieved 18 August 2024.
- ^ Hill, Erin (16 January 2024). "Kate Middleton and Prince William's True Feelings About The Crown Revealed". People. Dotdash Meredith. Archived from the original on 28 February 2024. Retrieved 18 August 2024.
- ^ Robinson, Abby; Knight, Lewis (19 December 2023). "The Crown season 6 cast: Full list of actors and characters". RadioTimes.com. Immediate Media Company Ltd. Retrieved 18 August 2024.
- ^ Ward, Kate (11 May 2011). "'South Park' spoofing Royal Wedding tonight. What other current events should it parody?". Entertainment Weekly. Dotdash Meredith. Archived from the original on 27 July 2024. Retrieved 18 August 2024.
- ^ Scheck, Frank (22 July 2017). "'Diana: Our Mother: Her Life and Legacy': TV Review". The Hollywood Reporter. Eldridge Industries. Archived from the original on 26 February 2024. Retrieved 18 August 2024.
- ^ Mackelden, Amy (1 September 2017). "10 Things We Learned About Princess Diana and Her Death from Diana, 7 Days". Harper's Bazaar. Hearst Magazine Media, Inc. Archived from the original on 28 July 2024. Retrieved 18 August 2024.
Articles created/expanded on August 15
[edit]Benoit Blin
- ... that during his service with the French Navy pastry chef and television judge Benoit Blin cut off the tips of his fingers in a kitchen accident?
- Source: " For me, when I was a young lad I made a silly mistake during my military service. I used a butcher knife to slice a tomato when I was doing staff food. It was extremely sharp and chopped the end of my fingers off with the tomato." from "The man behind the chef: Benoit Blin - The Staff Canteen Live". www.thestaffcanteen.com. Retrieved 14 August 2024.
- ALT1: ... that in 2011, French-born chef Benoit Blin was president of the British team at the World Pastry Cup? Source: "Benoit is no stranger to high-end pastry competitions. He was team president of the UK Pastry Team in the 2011 Pastry World Cup " from: "BBC Two - Bake Off Creme de la Creme, Series 1 - Benoit Blin MCA". BBC. Retrieved 14 August 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Togo
Dumelow (talk) 14:32, 15 August 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review (and no matter how much I like Bake Off The Professionals, I still do my QPQs oldest first!), but the WP:METRO is not a reliable source.--Launchballer 20:59, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up Launchballer, luckily everything was covered by the BBC source so I've switched it over to that - Dumelow (talk) 21:18, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
You should consider installing WP:UPSD. Full review needed.--Launchballer 21:44, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, that is a very handy gadget that should be more widely known, thanks - Dumelow (talk) 07:47, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up Launchballer, luckily everything was covered by the BBC source so I've switched it over to that - Dumelow (talk) 21:18, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 16
[edit]Joe Wirkkunen
- ... that Joe Wirkkunen coached the Finland men's national ice hockey team after receiving a recommendation from Canada?
- Reviewed: Grace Panvini and Robert Aiello
- Comment: I volunteer two QPQ credits for one nomination, to help reduce the backlog of nominations without reviews.
Flibirigit (talk) 17:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: I have some concern about the roundabout way the citation verifies the hook. Presently, I think there are two logical leaps being made from "sought suggestions from the local hockey community, and Joe's name was recommended" → "receiving a recommendation from Canada?" and then "Finland was searching for a Finnish speaking instructor with knowledge of the Canadian ice hockey system." → "coached the Finland men's national ice hockey team" connected by the "after receiving" makes it sound like the coaching position was directly a result from the recommendation from Canada. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:25, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm okay with Canada being a stand-in for "local community" (we're small, I get it; and it is limited at DYK) but the implied timeline seems like a bit of a stretch, but could be easily remedied. Suggested alternative: ALT1: "... that Joe Wirkkunen, after receiving a recommendation from Canada, would go on to coach the Finland men's national ice hockey team?" just to clarify. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:26, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Another opinion is needed for ALT1 since neither I nor the original reviewer are eligible to approve it. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 00:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Vollpension
- ... that Vollpension employs grandpas and grandmas (pictured) to bake cakes according to their own recipes, and during the COVID-19 pandemic offered live baking-courses from elders across the world?
- Source: "In 2020, at the height of coronavirus pandemic, the Vollpension launched the 'world’s first Grandma Baking School'. BakAdemy is an online platform that offers on-demand, live baking courses taught by the cafe’s elderly staff, helping to spreading their knowledge and recipes worldwide.." [14]
- ALT1: ... that Vollpension provides additional income and generation-bridging interaction to Viennese grandpas and grandmas (pictured) by employing them to bake and serve their own cakes?
- Source: "But it is also a highly successful experiment in 'social good' or 'social entrepreneurship,' a commercially sustainable way to provide much-needed extra income. Equally important, it provides friendly generation-bridging interaction for older people who may otherwise feel lonely or isolated." [15]
- ALT2: ... that the Viennese café Vollpension (employees pictured) addresses poverty and loneliness in elders by employing them to bake and serve their own cakes?
- Source: "Beyond being a cafe, however, the Vollpension is seen as a statement against social issues such old-age poverty and loneliness.." [16]
- Reviewed: Agnes Crane
- Comment:
QPQ is coming.Alternative hooks suggestions are welcome!
Surtsicna (talk) 22:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC).
- @Surtsicna: Per a recent WT:DYK discussion, there has been loose consensus to change the rules so that a QPQ now needs to be provided at the time of the nomination, instead of up to a week after. Please provide a QPQ at the earliest opportunity, otherwise the nomination is liable to be closed as incomplete without warning. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Narutolovehinata5. I'm on it! Surtsicna (talk) 20:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done. I was not aware of the rule change. It seems perfectly reasonable. Surtsicna (talk) 20:49, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Full review needed now that QPQ has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Italian Campaign of 1796-1797
- ... that the Italian Campaign of 1796–1797 helped Napoleon Bonaparte establish himself as a general? Source: https://www.thoughtco.com/napoleon-and-the-italian-campaign-1221692
- ... that the Italian Campaign of 1796–1797 demonstrated that Napoleon Bonaparte was a "great strategist"? Source: https://www.napoleon.org/en/young-historians/napodoc/timeline-consulate1st-french-empire/
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is a translated article. The only issue I have personally encountered is citations, which I am currently working out.
Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 16:27, 19 August 2024 (UTC).
- I screwed up the nomination template, can someone please correct. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 16:33, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 17:32, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
@Sir MemeGod: a few things need straightening out here:
- There are a lot of Harvard errors in the citations and referencing. If you haven't already, I suggest installing this script to catch and fix them.
- The two sources cited here are not really up to the bar of WP:RS. We need published works, ideally in print, by people acknowledged as experts in their field. Fortunately, Napoleon is not short of people who have written good academic work about him.
- The hooks need to be explicitly stated within the article itself: neither of these two seem to be.
I would suggest giving the article a fix for the citations, and then looking for two or three good facts from within it for which you have good sources already cited. I notice you've written that it's a translation, so make sure that these are from works that you can access to verify the citation. UndercoverClassicist T·C 13:21, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I will work to fix the issues addressed by later today, and will get back to you once everything is done. Thanks for the review! Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 13:26, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- @User:UndercoverClassicist I can't, for the life of me, figure out how to fix the "HarvNoTarget" error. I can fix the other issues though, and have already placed the hooks in the article. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 13:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- No Target Errors mean that there isn't a unique reference defined with that ID. For example, you have two references defined as Chandler2006, so any link pointing to that will show an error. The simple way to fix this is to make one Chandler 2006a and the other Chandler 2006b. I've seen the additions to the article, but would encourage you to read what I said about sourcing: this webpage is not a quality academic source. Honestly, I think there's more specific and more interesting material for hooks in the article anyway: can you come up with a couple that are cited to good-quality sources? UndercoverClassicist T·C 15:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- @User:UndercoverClassicist I can't, for the life of me, figure out how to fix the "HarvNoTarget" error. I can fix the other issues though, and have already placed the hooks in the article. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 13:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, here's a few I came up with:
1. "...that the Italian Campaign of 1796–1797 ended with the Treaty of Campo Formio?"
1b. Source: https://www.britannica.com/event/Treaty-of-Campo-Formio#:~:text=Treaty%20of%20Campo%20Formio%2C%20(October,Napoleon%20Bonaparte's%20first%20Italian%20campaign.
2. "...that the Italian Campaign of 1796–1797 was led by Napoleon?" (Kind of generic, I know)
2b. Source: https://www.worldhistory.org/Napoleon's_Italian_Campaign/
2c. Source:https://www.pbs.org/empires/napoleon/n_war/campaign/page_1.html#:~:text=First%20Italian%20Campaign%2C%201796%2D97,Piedmontese%2C%20then%20conquer%20each%20separately. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 15:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'd also have one about the campaign being Napoleon's first major campaaign (which it was), but I can't find an RS for it. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 15:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- To add one more thing, I figured out how to fix the harverror and now it is clean. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 15:31, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- We need hooks that are going to be interesting or unknown to most readers -- I'm not sure either of those two really pass that muster. Did anything interesting, exciting, surprising or consequential happen during (or as a result of) the campaigns? Can you find citations that are printed books, ideally in academic presses? UndercoverClassicist T·C 15:52, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- I do have one more that does have reliable sources behind it, and was interesting (at least to me) when I first read about it.
- We need hooks that are going to be interesting or unknown to most readers -- I'm not sure either of those two really pass that muster. Did anything interesting, exciting, surprising or consequential happen during (or as a result of) the campaigns? Can you find citations that are printed books, ideally in academic presses? UndercoverClassicist T·C 15:52, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT0" Did you know... that Napoleon defeated the Sardinian army in just two weeks at Montenotte and Mondovì as part of the Italian Campaign of 1796–1797?"
Sources (which I've checked WP:RS/PS for reliability):
1. https://www.pbs.org/empires/napoleon/n_war/campaign/page_1.html (passes WP:RS/PS)
2. https://www.britannica.com/event/French-revolutionary-wars/Campaign-in-Italy (there is no consensus, but the information is non-controversial, so it should be fine)
Also, printed books shouldn't be a requirement, if it's stated from a RS then it should be fine.
Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 16:47, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- They're not a requirement, but most of the websites you had been citing weren't good RSs for historical information -- I think Britannica is fine; PBS is acceptable but not great for history: we can trust their integrity, but they don't claim any real academic expertise or credibility. I think the most recent ALT (which I've labelled ALT0) is good; I've taken the liberty of making some minor edits for concision and markup. Hook is in the article, but the reference doesn't quite check: PBS give the two week figure as the combined total for Montenotte and Mondovi. UndercoverClassicist T·C 17:50, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Issue has been fixed, I just added "Mondovi" to the hook and to the article. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 17:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Lovely stuff. A few copyright issues:
- File:Paintings of Napoleon I on the battlefield.jpg needs a US PD tag.
- So does File:Renault - André Masséna, duc de Rivoli, prince d'Essling, maréchal de France (1756-1817).jpg
- So does File:Rampon Monte Legino.jpg
- So does File:Il generale Bonaparte dopo la vittoria di Montenotte.jpg
- So does File:Myrbach-Battle of Lodi.jpg
- So does File:Victor Adam - Battle of Castiglione - 1836.jpg
- So does File:Bataille de Rivoli ag1.jpg
- So does File:Archdukecharles1.jpg
- So does File:Örebroporträttet.jpg
- So does File:Bonaparte di Edouard Detaille.jpg, and it also needs better source information.
- So does File:Johann Peter Beaulieu.jpg
Not strictly required, but as we're going to be directing many readers from the main page to this article, it would be good to have alt text on the images for the benefit of blind people using screen readers. UndercoverClassicist T·C 18:26, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will add the alt text for all the images shortly. I may be able to add the PD-US templates to the images within the next hour, but if not, I'll just ask for someone else to do it (Commons sometimes doesn't work on my device). Thanks! Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 18:35, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- All alt-texts for the images have been added. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 18:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- And, for the grand finale, all PD-US-EXPIRED templates have been added. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 21:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Everything has been fixed. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 13:27, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- And, for the grand finale, all PD-US-EXPIRED templates have been added. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 21:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Request new reviewer, reviewer has not responded in 4 days. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 14:18, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Happy to respect that request, though I note for the future reviewer that the source information on File:Bonaparte di Edouard Detaille.jpg is still insufficient. Good luck with the nomination. UndercoverClassicist T·C 15:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 17
[edit]Liebigs Annalen
- ... that scientists publishing in Liebigs Annalen were subject to criticism and attacks by editor Justus von Liebig?
- Source: Partington, James Riddick (1961). A history of chemistry. London : Macmillan ; New York : St. Martin's Press. p. 299. ISBN 978-0-333-08366-6.
- ALT1: ... that Liebigs Annalen was first published in English 163 years after its first issue? Source: Engberts, Jan B. F. N.; Hafner, Klaus; Hopf, Henning (September 20, 1997). Temme, Robert (ed.). "What is going to become of Chemische Berichte/Recueil and Liebigs Annalen/Recueil?" (PDF). Jahrgang. Archived (PDF) from the original on May 28, 2024. Retrieved July 2, 2024., Royal Society of London (1 January 1875). "Obituary Notices of Fellows Deceased". Proceedings of the Royal Society of London. 24: xxvii–xxxvii. Retrieved 5 February 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Eternaut
- Comment: ALT1 uses the first source for its first English publication year and second source for the start of publications year.
Reconrabbit 15:37, 20 August 2024 (UTC).
1961 Pittsburg State Gorillas football team
- ... that the undefeated 1961 Pittsburg State Gorillas (pictured with UPI trophy) shut out seven opponents, featured four All-Americans and won three national championships?
- Source: Seven shutouts: here
Four All-Amerians: Snadon here, Archer, Beal, Hess here
Three national championships: UPI national small college champion (here), NAIA national champion (here), and AP small college national champion (here).Cbl62 (talk) 11:30, 18 August 2024 (UTC).
Post-tuberculosis lung disease
- ... that many people who recover from tuberculosis lose more than half of their lung capacity (pictured)?
(t · c) buidhe 06:26, 17 August 2024 (UTC).
@Buidhe: QPQ done, only 13% overlap, the page is an orphan (possibly add it to Template:Tuberculosis) and also airways is a disambiguation link please fix that, new enough. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 15:34, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. The article was de orphaned and the daB link was fixed. (t · c) buidhe 17:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Abortion in Guinea
- ... that Guinea has a law banning abortion, but an interpretation of the law says that receiving an abortion is not illegal?
- Source: [17] [my translation] For this legal journalist, the Guinean penal code cannot condemn a woman who has had an abortion.
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 04:59, 17 August 2024 (UTC).
- Not surprising or interesting, most abortion laws focus on prosecuting abortion providers rather than recipients. (t · c) buidhe 06:27, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 18
[edit]Agnes Crane
- ... that Agnes Crane (1852–1932) was an English amateur paleontologist who nonetheless described a new species of brachiopod and presented her work at the 1893 World's Congress in Chicago?
- Source: new brachiopod - 'On a Brachiopod of the Genus Atretia .. ' I have therefore thought it my duty to publish a short description of Atretia brazieri .. to secure priority for .. [this] species' https://https://archive.org/details/biostor-99964/page/n1/mode/2up Proc Zool Soc, 1886, p 182
Chaiten1 (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2024 (UTC).
There is probably nothing I like seeing more on DYK than women scientists. Thanks for this one, Chaiten1. The article is new and long enough. It covers the subject's life and career perfectly well. The sources are of very high quality and even quite accessible too. There are two issues, however. Firstly, "Crane lived in Brighton for the rest of her life" and "a role later taken on by Crane's father" require citations. Secondly, the wording of the hook can be improved. I would propose something like:
- ALT1: that despite having no university training, Agnes Crane described a new species of brachiopod in 1886?
- Let me know what you think. Surtsicna (talk) 20:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the encouragement! I have added citations to the statements in the page: one is Crane's births/marriages/death entry from FreeBMD, as other sources (like probate) are behind paywalls; the other is from Edward Crane's obituary. I do like your suggestion for rewording in ALT1 - I have just inserted 'of brachiopod' - thank you!Chaiten1 (talk) 09:06, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Let me know what you think. Surtsicna (talk) 20:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 19
[edit]Serekunda, Kanifing
![Downtown Serekunda](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Serekunda_0001.jpg/162px-Serekunda_0001.jpg)
- ... that because the capital of the Gambia is on a small island, its population has overflowed into nearby Serekunda (pictured)?
- Source: [18] Banjul, Gambia's capital city, is positioned on St. Mary's Island at the mouth of the River Gambia and long ago reached its residential carrying capacity. Adjacent Serekunda has accommodated the overflow.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dublin Castle scandal, Template:Did you know nominations/A. I. Namm & Son Department Store
- Comment: Alt hooks welcome. I may come up with a more interesting hook as I continue to expand the article.
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 00:40, 21 August 2024 (UTC).
- Going to review this later, the hook already looks interesting!
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
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Overall:
I don't see the article as new, needs an explanation. The hook is a book source so AGF. I see multiple un-broad sentences, like about the dictator's rule, which isn't related to the city (only a tiny bit). 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
23:42, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- @TheNuggeteer: Article was 5x expanded on August 19. The mentioned events of the dictator's rule took place at specific locations in Serekunda, which I think makes them relevant. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 23:57, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Good explanation, changing.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
00:46, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Good explanation, changing.
I would like to reopen this nomination to add another article I have expanded. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 22:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that because the capital of the Gambia is on a small island, its population has overflowed into Serekunda (pictured) in the nearby municipality of Kanifing?
- Source: Same as before
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 22:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note: reviewer needed to review second article, Kanifing, and the new ALT1 hook with both articles included. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Kanifing review
Article was expanded from 1761 characters/288 words to 8988 characters/1422 words. This is on the border of x5 expansion, and some copyediting may bring this down. There are some paraphrasing concerns. The lead has "Kanifing is a municipality in the Gambia, to the west of Banjul...It includes Serrekunda, the largest urban area in the Gambia", which is very close to "Kanifing, a local government area, lies to the west of Banjul, the capital. It includes Serrekunda, the largest urban area in the country". "It has the largest population of any of the districts in the Gambia" in the lead is very similar to "Kanifing municipality has the largest population of any administrative district in the country" of the same source. "Kanifing is the most densely populated part of the Gambia" in the body is very similar to the same source's "making it the most densely populated area in The Gambia". "In 1991, it became the Kanifing Municipal Council" seems taken from "In 1991, KUDC was given the status of a municipal council, becoming Kanifing Municipal Council (KMC)", "Kanifing and Banjul comprise the Greater Banjul Area" is "Kanifing and the City of Banjul together form the Greater Banjul Area", both also from this source. There may be other areas, I have not checked every place this was cited. Some of these might be fine on their own as basic information, but seeing so many examples demonstrates the paraphrasing is too close. (While I cannot access many of the sources used here, I could access this waste management one, which does not seem closely paraphrased in the same way.) A related aside, the "Senegalese people comprise 92% of these" in the article is wrongly contextualised, the source notes 92% is for all of The Gambia, not just Kanifing. Talib Ahmed Bensouda's political party does not seem to be in the mentioned source.I have not re-checked the Serekunda article other than to check the hook. While I am not sure what "overtaking its status" in the body there means, the main point in the hook is supported. I find the hook interesting. A second QPQ was completed. CMD (talk) 10:58, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: I've made tweaks to the prose to address the paraphrasing issues. I've kept the sentence "Kanifing and Banjul comprise the Greater Banjul Area" since I really don't think there's a more concise phrasing of that, and I don't know how to rephrase "the most densely populated part of the Gambia" while staying faithful to the source. I've checked for close paraphrasing from other sources and I believe I have addressed everything. Also removed the wrong statistic about refugees, thanks for pointing that out.
As for article length, it has been expanded much more than fivefold since the expansion began. The prose size as of the revision before my edits was 561 B. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 16:00, 8 September 2024 (UTC)- You're right on the expansion, I was calculating one diff off, so my concern about length was mistaken. On the paraphrasing, there is still some rewriting needed. Shifting a few words doesn't remove the text echoing the source in style and structure. Shifting from saying the area has most of the country's coastal resorts and hotels to saying it has most of the country's hotels and coastal resorts does not read as a new piece of writing. "Youth unemployment (those aged 15–35 years) is 6.5%, lower than many districts in the country" should not be copied with a small change to "youth unemployment rate is 6.5%, lower than most of the country". The shifting of the "It includes Serrekunda" sentence did not affect its structure being lifted from the source. The salient information should be extracted from the source, not the sentences or structure. For example, the article currently has the text "...people who are 15 or older...and 254,337 who are unemployed". I've just realised that that figure doesn't match the preceding figures, so please check that, but whatever the figure is, that is a place that information about youth unemployment would naturally fit, say "Of workers between 15 and 35, just 6.5% are unemployed." CMD (talk) 17:43, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- More tweaks made, though it may be imperfect as I'm multitasking right now. Kept the phrasing "lower than most of the country" since it's more precise than just saying it's "low". I can't think of a better phrasing for the sentence about hotels. Thanks for putting in more effort than most DYK reviewers would. And thanks for pointing out the unemployment statistic; that's the kind of blunder that happens when I've stared at PDFs with tables for a bit too long. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 18:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- You're right on the expansion, I was calculating one diff off, so my concern about length was mistaken. On the paraphrasing, there is still some rewriting needed. Shifting a few words doesn't remove the text echoing the source in style and structure. Shifting from saying the area has most of the country's coastal resorts and hotels to saying it has most of the country's hotels and coastal resorts does not read as a new piece of writing. "Youth unemployment (those aged 15–35 years) is 6.5%, lower than many districts in the country" should not be copied with a small change to "youth unemployment rate is 6.5%, lower than most of the country". The shifting of the "It includes Serrekunda" sentence did not affect its structure being lifted from the source. The salient information should be extracted from the source, not the sentences or structure. For example, the article currently has the text "...people who are 15 or older...and 254,337 who are unemployed". I've just realised that that figure doesn't match the preceding figures, so please check that, but whatever the figure is, that is a place that information about youth unemployment would naturally fit, say "Of workers between 15 and 35, just 6.5% are unemployed." CMD (talk) 17:43, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Janet Panetta
- ... that Janet Panetta, who started dancing as physical therapy for childhood polio, would go on to teach dance all over Europe, becoming a "launchpad" for many dancers including Jérôme Bel?
- Source: "Janet Panetta, who overcame childhood polio to become a dancer with American Ballet Theater, a performer in New York’s thriving downtown modern dance scene and a revered ballet teacher, died on Saturday in Brooklyn. She was 74."
"The French choreographer Jérôme Bel, also interviewed by The Times in 2010, said of Ms. Panetta, “If a dancer would be a rocket, she would be a launchpad.” He was her student at the National Center of Contemporary Dance in France, where she was the founding ballet teacher in the early 1980s. “Not telling you where to go, just giving you confidence in the universe,” he said."
NY Times- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Book of Virtues
- Comment: Alt hooks welcome!
Thriley (talk) 16:07, 27 August 2024 (UTC).
- I'd actually focus on the childhood polio aspect rather than the launchpad aspect given that's a much more surprising fact and already works by itself. The current hook seems too complicated as is compared to the shorter option. Thus:
- ALT1 ... that Janet Panetta started dancing as physical therapy for childhood polio?
- @Thriley and DaffodilOcean: Thoughts on the simplified hook? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:24, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - the new hook is fine by me, though I welcome @Thriley:'s thoughts as they made the nomination. DaffodilOcean (talk) 15:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Daniela Larreal
- ... that although cyclist Daniela Larreal thought in 2004 that she would only have a few more years in her career, she was preparing for the 2016 Summer Olympics when forced into exile?
- Source: Sources in article
Kingsif (talk) 20:44, 20 August 2024 (UTC).
Self-withdrawing as this is currently at ITN (as RD). Kingsif (talk) 22:28, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingsif: Note that if a subject is featured on ITN under Recent deaths, it remains eligible for DYK. DYK ineligibility only applies to bolded links in blurbs (so for example, Paetongtarn Shinawatra is ineligible for DYK for one year after the blurb was posted), but not to Recent deaths entries. With that in mind, are you sure you want to withdraw the nomination instead of allowing it to proceed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: If that's the case, happy to proceed with it, and I've struck my last comment. Kingsif (talk) 15:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingsif: Note that if a subject is featured on ITN under Recent deaths, it remains eligible for DYK. DYK ineligibility only applies to bolded links in blurbs (so for example, Paetongtarn Shinawatra is ineligible for DYK for one year after the blurb was posted), but not to Recent deaths entries. With that in mind, are you sure you want to withdraw the nomination instead of allowing it to proceed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Public image of JB Pritzker
- ... that Socialists, nomadic warriors, Anarchists, and frat bros support the richest governor in the United States of America?
- ALT1: ... that the Great Khan of the Midwest has a large following among nomadic warriors, frat bros, socialists, and anarchists? Source: https://www.chicagotribune.com/2022/11/04/jb-pritzker-conqueror-of-worlds-the-memeing-of-the-illinois-governor-gets-weird/
- Reviewed:
Microplastic Consumer (talk) 22:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but I don't think ALT0 would pass scrutiny as Pritzker being the richest governor in the US is not a fact that is unlikely to change. It will change either when Pritzker is no longer in office, or another governor becomes wealthier. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:53, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also not a review but Alt 1 also appears to be changeable opinion using possibly stereotypes (ie not a sociological or even cultural study or statistical fact). I don't remember the rules for opinion presentation, if any, though. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 13:50, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hooks about opinions usually require some kind of attribution. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:07, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- There are essentially hundreds of JB Pritzker fan accounts, some of whom who have received media coverage (See sources linked here and in the article). "Nomadic Warriors for Pritzker" is one of this accounts, and refers to Pritzker as the "Great Khan" Microplastic Consumer (talk) 12:12, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe something like ALT2 ... that JB Pritzker has been nicknamed the "Great Khan of the Midwest" by supporters? would work then? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:26, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 20
[edit]Jools Lebron
- ... that following the success of Jools Lebron's "demure" videos, she stated that she was able to use the proceeds to pay for her gender transition - only for someone else to trademark it? Source: https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/demure-creater-tiktok-jools-lebron-gender-transition-1236109680/ for transition, https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/08/26/very-demure-very-mindful-jools-lebron-tiktok/ for skulduggery
- ALT1: ... that the August 2024 "demure" TikTok trend was started by Jools Lebron? Source: per ALT0
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Michael Jerrell
- Comment: Drive-by nom. Appears to meet minimum standards, will go through with a fine-toothed comb when I don't have a 7-day clock ticking. The bit of ALT0 after the dash probably deserves WP:DYKTRIMming but I see no harm in adding it post hoc for the promoter's consideration.
Launchballer 16:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC).
Arekia Bennett
- ... that despite graduating with a physics degree, Arekia Bennett turned to civic activism due to her political concerns regarding reproductive rights and the electoral process?
- Source: https://www.splcenter.org/news/2020/11/02/vote-your-voice-mississippi-grantee-organizations-are-challenging-systemic-voter Arekia Bennett was a physics and chemistry major at a Mississippi university when she tuned into local and regional politics. “As a young woman in the Deep South, I started to understand that there were so many issues I cared about, like control over my own body, that were intrinsically tied to the electoral process,” Bennett said.
- Reviewed:
CaptainAngus (talk) 16:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC).
- How is this surprising or interesting? Many people who go into politics or advocacy don't have polisci degrees. (t · c) buidhe 13:48, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Two alternative hooks below:
- ALT1: ...that despite intending to become a physics teacher, Arekia Bennett turned to civic activism due to her political concerns regarding reproductive rights and the electoral process?
- Additional source for ALT1: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/25/us/freedom-summer-mississippi-votes.html “This is about creating a culture of civic engagement, not just during the election season. We want people to understand the political landscape and be involved on and off the clock,” said Ms. Bennett, a Jackson State University graduate who wanted to be a physics teacher before turning to civic activism.
- ALT2: ...that voting-rights activist Arekia Bennett based a 2017 mass voter registration effort in Mississippi on Freedom Summer?
- Source for ALT2: https://jacksonadvocateonline.com/ms-votes-the-next-generation-of-freedom-fighters-are-here/ “In 2017, [the organization] started to test this theory of what it means to do mass voter registration in the same ways that folks did during Freedom Summer,” says Bennett.
- CaptainAngus (talk) 01:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about these hooks either: #1 are very common reasons for political activism in the US and #2 is a commonly cited inspiration for voter registration. (t · c) buidhe 02:40, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Additional alternative hooks below:
- ALT2a: ...that voting-rights activist Arekia Bennett aimed to recreate Freedom Summer, Mississippi's 1964 voter registration drive, in 2017?
- Source for ALT2a: https://jacksonadvocateonline.com/ms-votes-the-next-generation-of-freedom-fighters-are-here/ “In 2017, [the organization] started to test this theory of what it means to do mass voter registration in the same ways that folks did during Freedom Summer,” says Bennett.
- ALT3: ...that Arekia Bennett is focused on voting rights for Mississippi citizens including young queer people and children who have gone through the juvenile justice system?
- Source for ALT3: https://www.djournal.com/mississippi-today/the-story-behind-the-technology-that-mississippi-votes-uses-to/article_8fe12716-715e-56e3-9a32-fc3a38f033e8.html Arekia Bennett throws herself into a chair in front of a dark red accent wall and rattles off a list of positions she hopes to fill as quickly as possible at Mississippi Votes, the nonprofit she has led as executive director for almost a year. <break> More specifically, they focus on people ages 18 to 35 as well as young queer people and people who have experienced the juvenile justice system.
- CaptainAngus (talk) 01:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 21
[edit]Heat 2
- ... that Michael Mann made a sequel and a prequel to his 1995 film Heat with a novel, Heat 2?
- Reviewed:
Iheartmylibrary22 (talk) 18:16, 25 August 2024 (UTC).
- I will review this. TompaDompa (talk) 09:45, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article moved to mainspace on 21 August, and is well beyond the required minimum length. There are sourcing and neutrality issues I described in more detail below. Earwig, despite giving a low copyvio percentage score, reveals that
It covers the formative years of homicide detective Vincent Hanna and criminals Neil McCauley and Chris Shiherlis.
in the WP:LEAD comes from a source cited elsewhere in the article which says The book covers the formative years of homicide detective Vincent Hanna (Al Pacino) and Neil McCauley (Robert De Niro)
. I do not think WP:LIMITED applies in this instance, and even if it did the source is (intentionally or otherwise) obfuscated here. See WP:PLAGIARISM. The hook is properly cited in the article (in the lead, specifically). I think the hook is interesting, but I would not protest if others do not find it so. I would link both Michael Mann and Heat in the hook. An argument could be made that Gardiner should be mentioned in the hook as co-author; with a hook this focused on the connection to the 1995 film, I don't think this is necessary (Gardiner's name is prominent in the lead of the article). This is the nominator's first DYK nomination, so they are QPQ exempt. Some comments about the content:
- The article needs a fair amount of copyediting, both for grammar reasons or similar and to improve the writing quality (the latter not strictly being a DYK requirement). I have done some copyediting myself, and will give a few (but decidedly non-exhaustive) examples further down where I think copyediting is needed or at least definitely desirable.
- There is some information in the WP:LEAD that is not in the body of the article. This is usually (with some limited exceptions) an indication that the information should either be covered in the body or removed from the lead. Examples:
- The notion that the book received
critical acclaim
. This is also not something the cited source actually says, which is a problem both in terms of WP:Verifiability and WP:Neutrality. - The description of Mann as
an English lit major
. I doubt that this is necessary at all (and if it is, it should be written out in full as "English literature") as the source only mentions it once, briefly, in a quote by Mann. - The discussion about where it fits in Mann's body of work (
Heat 2 was part of a renewed era of productivity for Mann [...]
. This also isn't properly sourced.
- The notion that the book received
- Sentences like
Mann's debut novel, Heat 2 is both a prequel and a sequel to his 1995 crime film Heat.
andAnnounced in 2016 as a prequel, Heat 2 released in August 2022 to critical acclaim and landed on the New York Times bestseller list.
—where the subject of the sentence comes directly after some information about it and a comma and is then followed by the rest of the sentence—look out of place in encyclopedic writing, being more reminiscent of the style used by e.g. newspapers. It's not necessarily wrong, but should be used sparingly if at all to maintain WP:Encyclopedic style and tone. - A couple of the cited sources are podcasts. Most podcasts are not WP:Reliable sources, but here they are interviews with Mann and WP:ABOUTSELF thus applies (presumably—I haven't looked into the contents all that closely here). That being said, a timestamp should be provided.
- The "Plot" section is significantly longer than the 400–700 words recommended at WP:NOVELPLOT. This is not a DYK requirement in itself, but it is worth keeping in mind when copyediting this section (as will be necessary). A few specific suggestions on copyediting (that will however not reduce the word count):
- Avoid using abbreviations such as "LA" or "M.O.". On the other hand, "GPS" is probably better than writing it out in full.
- See MOS:OVERLINKING.
- Consider whether all of the footnotes are necessary. I don't think the one that says "1996" is, for instance.
- The section is not consistent in its use of first versus last name for different characters—which it need not necessarily be, but if it is not there should be a good reason for the inconsistency. Think about whether that is the case here.
Later that evening, Hanna kills Neil as the latter tries to flee.
has a footnote that saysImmediately after the events of the 1995 film
. That doesn't seem right—that is the ending of the film, is it not?- A decent amount of the "Development" and "Planned film adaptation" sections resembles WP:Proseline writing.
It was announced in March 2016 that Mann was writing a prequel novel to the film Heat.
– why the passive voice?It was formally announced in spring 2023
– see MOS:SEASON.- A "Reception" section about what the reviews for the book were like is generally expected for articles like this. This is not a DYK requirement.
- The "Connections to other Mann works" section lacks proper sourcing, and should almost certainly be removed in its entirety. This kind of content is only appropriate if the sources on the topic of the article (i.e. Heat 2) make these points, and it should basically never be presented in a bulleted list format.
- The photos of Driver and Butler seem excessive given that this is apparently all rumour? This is not a DYK requirement.
My recommendation at this point would be to withdraw this nomination and keep working on this article until it is ready for WP:Good article nomination (which, to be clear, is a ways off), and then renominating it here as a new WP:Good article rather than a new article. Ping nominator Iheartmylibrary22. TompaDompa (talk) 17:29, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Hi -- could someone remove this from the nomination list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iheartmylibrary22 (talk • contribs) 20:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
...Well, Better Than the Alternative
- ... that "...Well, Better Than the Alternative" contains lyrics that act as "conceptual red herrings" to obstruct Will Wood's intention?
- ALT1: ... that the music video for "...Well, Better Than the Alternative" applies handmade paintings to live action footage of Will Wood through EBsynth? Source: https://newnoisemagazine.com/video-premiere-will-wood-well-better-than-the-alternative/
- Reviewed:
Koopastar (talk) 02:06, 22 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 22
[edit]No net loss environmental policy
- ... that more than 69 countries have no net loss environmental policies?
- Reviewed:
Manxshearwater (talk) 14:30, 26 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 23
[edit]Elayne Harrington
... that Irish rapper Temper-Mental MissElayneous was arrested for lèse-majesté with a bodhrán?
- Source: Feehan, Conor (29 August 2013). "Riot-arrest rapper fronts Guinness ad". Irish Independent. Retrieved 23 August 2024.
- alt1 ... that when Temper-Mental MissElayneous was a child, she followed her mother to union meetings?
- Source:O’Connor, Ruth. "Inspiring women, inspiring stories" (PDF). National Women's Council of Ireland. pp. 7–8. Retrieved 23 August 2024.
- alt2 ... that poet and rapper Elayne Harrington carried all her property in her bodhrán case when homeless in Dublin?
- Source:Sheridan, Colette (17 March 2021). "'It takes years to recover from homelessness': Elayne Harrington on getting her art career on track". Irish Examiner. Retrieved 23 August 2024.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I am the subject of this article (not the author), and it was suggested to me that I should try for DYK.
Elayne Adamczyk Harrington (talk) 16:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
- Comment. The proposed "hook" is not stated in the body and is not supported by either of the proposed references. Where does "arrested for lèse-majesté" ("defamation against the dignity of a ruling head of state"?) come from? The linked Evening Herald article says "arrested for breach of the peace and failure to comply with gardai". Not the offence we are listing here. And the linked Irish Independent (entertainment section) article also says "charged with threatening and abusive behaviour and failing to comply with gardai". Per WP:DYKRULES and WP:DYKHFC, the facts of the hook need to appear in the article (they don't), and the facts of the hook need to be supported by reliable references (they aren't). As it stands, the proposed hook text fails verification and doesn't meet DYK criteria. (Update: I can find no evidence that anyone [including the subject] has ever been arrested in Ireland for "lèse-majesté". There is nothing to indicate that any such offence or law is "on the books" in Ireland.) Guliolopez (talk) 11:46, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Correct, Ireland does not have "lèse-majesté" laws afaik. Being a republic and all that. It is intended to be humorous/non-literal, alluding to "arrested following protests during the Queen's visit in 2012." That is in the article. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:43, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi. While I understand the humour aspect. And I know myself to be more of a pedant than most. But I'd suggest that "not true" is more accurate than "not literal". Per the guideline, hooks should (indeed) be interesting. But "interesting" shouldn't be prioritised to the extent that "accurate" is ignored. As you note, I don't think the proposed hook "works". Because it's not true or accurate. (We haven't exaggerated the facts - so much as we've changed them.) To the extent that, personally, I don't think that hook should be promoted to the homepage. (propose "... arrested
for lèse-majesté with a bodhránat a protest against Elizabeth II's 2011 state visit to Ireland" as alternative hook.) Guliolopez (talk) 14:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)- Fair enough, alt will come. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:56, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Correct, Ireland does not have "lèse-majesté" laws afaik. Being a republic and all that. It is intended to be humorous/non-literal, alluding to "arrested following protests during the Queen's visit in 2012." That is in the article. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:43, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. While the proposed alt1 is better than the originally proposed hook, it is not ideal (as "followed" implies a sense of wile that isn't in the source - which gives "attended with"). If it were me, I think a hook which focused on the subject's experience with homelessness (and attempts to challenge perceptions of homelessness and destigmatise the issue) would make for a more interesting hook. And is a much more topical issue. In Ireland at least. IMO anyway. Guliolopez (talk) 20:14, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Elayne Adamczyk Harrington, anything you wish to add to this discussion? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:13, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. While the proposed alt1 is better than the originally proposed hook, it is not ideal (as "followed" implies a sense of wile that isn't in the source - which gives "attended with"). If it were me, I think a hook which focused on the subject's experience with homelessness (and attempts to challenge perceptions of homelessness and destigmatise the issue) would make for a more interesting hook. And is a much more topical issue. In Ireland at least. IMO anyway. Guliolopez (talk) 20:14, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Maryvonne Le Dizès
... that Maryvonne Le Dizès, violinist of the ensemble intercontemporain, commissioned a trio for saxophone, trombone, and violin from Gilbert Amy for the ensemble?Source: [21]- Reviewed: Cécile Fatiman
Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:16, 28 August 2024 (UTC).
This will need a new hook per WP:DYKINT, as the hook as currently written is not likely to be perceived as interesting or unusual by people without specialist knowledge. It is reliant on names and knowledge unknown to most readers, and her writing the trio is part of her job and may not meet scrutiny from other reviewers. My suggestion would be to propose a hook about her being the first woman to win the Paganini Competition (which is an exceptional claim, but shouldn't be hard to prove), while adding context about the competition for the benefit of general readers. A hook about her quote
"Teaching is as vital to me as playing my instrument. I cannot teach if I do not play, and I cannot play without teaching."
might also work. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:02, 10 September 2024 (UTC)- Kindly read the article (or just the hook). She didn't compose as far as we know. The competition is just one of those "first" hooks we were told to avoid. The special thing about her - compared to other violinists - is that she played in this influential ensemble of contemporary music, and people who don't know it get a chance to change that. Being of influence in the composition of new works is a more unusual contribution to world culture than winning a competition, and the combination of instruments is unusual as well. She devoted her life to contemporary music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:23, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24 and Launchballer: Do you see anything in the article that could work as a hook? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24, Launchballer, ScottishFinnishRadish, and Valereee: Please look and also read above. As you may have read on my talk, she - whom I also didn't know - became dear to me. Did you know should be about something people don't know, imho. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:03, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- I was going to suggest something like "that when Maryvonne Le Dizes became the first woman and first foreigner to enter the Carnegie Hall competition, she was performing less to focus on her children" on the grounds that they'll keep a record of all its competitors, so there's little danger of us being proved wrong. I'm not seeing how the source backs up that her appearance took place in that time period though. I could also recommend "that the violinist Maryvonne Le Dizes "cannot play without teaching"" but that seems less than reverent.--Launchballer 09:36, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the ideas! In order to run a beauty contest, better format them in a way that a promoter could take them without changes. I hope that we can get "contemporary music" in because that's truly what distinguishes her from most violinists with a DYK that I met. Fewer performances because of children is no surprise. Finding teaching essential as nothing that could be said only about her. For examples:
- ALT3: ... that Maryvonne Le Dizès, the first woman to win the Paganini Competition, became a long-term violinist of the ensemble intercontemporain?
- ALT4: ... that Maryvonne Le Dizès, the first woman to win the Paganini Competition, became a long-term violinist of the ensemble intercontemporain run by Pierre Boulez?
- Pierre Boulez, featured article, centenary next year, is a name that Main page readers should know. However: He will be TFA on his centenary next year, - why promote him? Same for the other with whom she collaborated there, György Ligeti, centenary last year and celebrated. (Remember Le Grand Macabre)? So why promote him? The composer I found has a decent article and should be known more. Commissioning new music is unusual, and should be known more. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:26, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- I was going to suggest something like "that when Maryvonne Le Dizes became the first woman and first foreigner to enter the Carnegie Hall competition, she was performing less to focus on her children" on the grounds that they'll keep a record of all its competitors, so there's little danger of us being proved wrong. I'm not seeing how the source backs up that her appearance took place in that time period though. I could also recommend "that the violinist Maryvonne Le Dizes "cannot play without teaching"" but that seems less than reverent.--Launchballer 09:36, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Probably not a popular opinion, but I feel modifying ALT 3 and 4 thusly would be the best solution here:
- ALT1: ... that Maryvonne Le Dizès was the first woman to win the Paganini Competition?
- "Long-term violinist" doesn't sound idiomatic. (It reminded me in passing of "Part-Time Lover"!) To you and me, working with the EC and Boulez is a big deal, but to the average person who would potentially read those hooks, it means nothing. Another ALT just came to me after re-reading the article...
- ALT2: ... that for the violinist Maryvonne Le Dizès, "teaching was as vital as playing [her] instrument"?Source: Ibid.
- I get where Gerda is coming from, but I feel the most successful hooks rely on exactly the sort of facts that she wants to avoid here. Whereas her preference to mention Le Dizès' work in modern music seems to me a tough sell for the casual reader unaware of classical music. Of course, what do I know? Please feel free to disagree! ;) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the ALTs and especially for thinking.
- "tough sell" - I am not here to sell but to inform, and that goes for the Main page as for articles. I am here to inform about the less known topics, about minorities, and want a place for those, and that goes for the Main page as well. I am here for team spirit, and like her being part of an ensemble most of all, not a virtuoso soloist. I want to give some idea of this to the reader of the one sentence who will not click. Please find a way. - I renamed your ALTs because they were the ideas from above, - why I began with ALT3.
- ALT3a: ... that Maryvonne Le Dizès, the first woman to win the Paganini Competition, became violinist of the ensemble intercontemporain? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- I could also call it ALT1a, trying not to leave the impression of her with good old virtuoso Paganini and competition winning alone. Repeating: she dedicated her life to contemporary music, and the name of the ensemble shows that elegantly. ALT1 requires knowledge of Paganini having been a violinist to deduce that she was a violinist, - isn't that asking too much from our general audience? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
full review needed :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Atsuko Tanaka (voice actress)
- ... that voice actress Atsuko Tanaka often named pandas? Source: TBSラジオ「安住紳一郎の日曜天国」のパンダ命名企画にラジオネーム「完熟マンゴー」として電話出演したものの、安住アナに声でバレてしまった過去もある。また、アドベンチャーワールドのジャイアントパンダ「結浜(ゆいひん)」、「彩浜(さいひん)」の名付け親の1人となった。 /She appeared under the radio name "Kanjuku Mango" on the TBS Radio's "Azumi Shin'ichirō no Nichiyō Tengoku" for a panda-naming project ... She was also one of the godparents of the giant pandas "Yuihin" and "Saihin" at Adventure World.
- ALT1: ... that voice actress Atsuko Tanaka was one of the godparents of two giant pandas at the Adventure World zoo? Source: As above
- ALT2: ... that Nicole Kidman's Japanese dub actress Atsuko Tanaka once called herself "the one person in Japan who underst[ood] her acting the best"? Source: ニコール・キッドマンとはとても相性の良さを感じています。演じやすいというか。日本中で彼女のお芝居を一番理解しているのは自分だと自負しています(笑)。/I feel that I have a very good chemistry with Nicole Kidman. It's easy to act with her. I'm proud to say that I'm the person in Japan who understands her acting the best (laughs).
- ALT3: ... that before her voice acting career, Atsuko Tanaka worked as a background extra for Shochiku while studying at Ferris University? Source: 大船の松竹撮影所が近かったので夏休みに演劇部仲間とエキストラのアルバイトをしていて、岩下志麻さんをお見かけした時はテンションが上がりました。/The Shochiku Ofuna studios were nearby, so during the summer holidays I worked part-time as an extra with my friends from the drama club [at Ferris University, and I got really excited when I saw Shima Iwashita.]
- ALT4: ... that Atsuko Tanaka turned to voice acting because she found it unreasonable to work as an office lady until retirement? Source: これから定年までOLをし続けるのって無理だって思いました...そして、安定はしていなくても、好きな仕事に就けたなら、やりがいもあるし、一生続けていけるんじゃないかなあと考え始めたわけです。―そんなとき、声優の仕事と出逢ったんですね。/TANAKA: I realized that it would be impossible for me to continue working as an office lady until retirement ... Then I started to think that even if it wasn't stable, if I could get a job I liked, it would be rewarding and I could do it for the rest of my life. [... INTERVIEWER: And that's when you discovered voice acting.]
- ALT5: ... that voice actress Atsuko Tanaka originally worked as an office lady in Tokyo? Source: 横浜で大学を卒業し、東京で民間企業の事務職に就いた。/I graduated from university in Yokohama and got a job as an office worker at a private company in Tokyo. + こういうやくざなことからは足を洗うんだと、OLになりました。/I decided to get away from all that rough stuff and became an office lady.
- ALT6: ... that although her parents initially disapproved of Atsuko Tanaka's voice acting career, they reconsidered after she starred in a Lupin the Third television special? Source: ルパン三世のヒロイン役で両親公認に ... OLを辞めて声優になると宣言したとき、ご家族の反応は?猛反対でした ... 1993年、30歳のとき、「ルパン三世ルパン暗殺指令」という作品のヒロインに抜擢していただきました。これはテレビでのオンエアですから、両親も見てくれたようです。/Approved by parents for the role of the heroine in Lupin III ... What was your family's reaction when you announced that you were going to quit your office job to become a voice actress? He was strongly against it ... In 1993, when I was 30 years old, I was chosen to play the heroine in the film "Lupin III: Orders to Assassinate Lupin." This was broadcast on television, so my parents also watched it.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ban Hyo-jin
- Comment: Expanded from 1126 (18 August) to 6336 (23 August, when almost all the expansion took place). There is an ITN nom (albeit improved a little too late; the section hadn't been updated in days when it was added), but it's recent deaths so should be fine.
ミラP@Miraclepine 16:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC).
Diet culture
- ... that diet culture was intertwined with scientific racism in the late 19th century, including the common belief among medical practitioners that black women were unable to control their consumption?
- Source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-racist-roots-of-fighting-obesity2/, “In the eyes of many medical practitioners in the late 19th century, Black women were destined to die off along with the men of their race because of their presumed inability to control their “animal appetites”—eating, drinking and fornicating. These presumptions were not backed by scientific data but instead embodied the prevailing racial scientific logic at the time. Later, some doctors wanted to push Black men to reform their aesthetic preferences. Valorizing voluptuousness in Black women, these physicians claimed, validated their unhealthy diets, behaviors and figures.”
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I’m open to alternative hook ideas. Thank you very much!
FortunateSons (talk) 17:20, 23 August 2024 (UTC).
- I made an error: I wrote the article through AfC, but I’m not the person who moved it into mainspace. Can I just fix that manually, or is there a different way to do it? FortunateSons (talk) 17:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
Dilaw (song)
- ... that "Dilaw" was a dominant song in the Philippines and gained international recognition?
- Source: ABS-CBN, Billboard Philippines
- ALT1: ... that "Dilaw" reached the top spot on Billboard Philippines Hot 100 and Top Philippines Songs chart and entered the Spotify Global Chart at 200?
- Source: ABS-CBN NEWS. Billboard Philippines
- Source: ABS-CBN CORPORATE, TRIBUNE
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The title of Dilaw (Maki song) changed to Dilaw (song).
Royiswariii (talk) 16:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but the hooks are a bit suspicious. The hooks have a summary of the song, which isn't regularly added to hooks, maybe trim like this? ALT0:... that "Dilaw" was the dominating song in the Philippines and international too? and ALT1: ... that "Dilaw" was entered on Billboard Philippines securing the number one spot, and the Spotify Global Chart entered at number 200? and I also saw two "hooks" in alt1, which can be added here, ALT2: ... that the creator of the song Dilaw is a male OPM artist with the most listeners on Spotify? Thanks,
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
11:53, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your suggestion @🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 I'll fix the Hook. ALT1 and ALT2. Royiswariii (talk) 04:30, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
Typhoon Virginia (1957)
- ... that along with fatalities and damages, 1957's Typhoon Virginia also damaged 14 ships?
- Source: SRC
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
13:18, 23 August 2024 (UTC).
Typhoons in Taiwan
- ... that missionary George Leslie Mackay recorded 19 typhoons affecting Taiwan in the 1890s?
- Source: PDF
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
07:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 24
[edit]Statue of John Stockton
- ... that the sculptor re-positioned the statue of John Stockton about 20 times by using a wrench to adjust ball-and-socket joints on steel rods?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that the statue of John Stockton was adorned with a mask during the COVID-19 pandemic? Source: [2][3]
- Reviewed: 0
Left guide (talk) 13:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC).
References
- ^ Robinson, Doug (June 14, 2004). "Sculpting Stockton no way a slam-dunk". Deseret News. Retrieved August 24, 2024.
- ^ Kalbrosky, Bryan (January 25, 2022). "Somebody put a mask on a John Stockton statue because he refuses to do it himself". USA Today. Retrieved August 24, 2024.
- ^ McCarriston, Shanna (January 25, 2022). "Fan puts face mask on John Stockton statue outside of Jazz's Vivint Arena". CBS Sports. Retrieved August 24, 2024.
Bed Chem
- ... that one of Barry Keoghan's favorite songs by Sabrina Carpenter is a "horny" one that contains several euphemisms about penis sizes?
- ALT1: ... that "bed chem" is short for "bedroom chemistry"? Source: Slate
- ALT2: ... that it was "real hot and heavy" in the studio where Sabrina Carpenter recorded the song "Bed Chem"? Source: Paper
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wake Me Up When September Ends
- Comment: I think the mysterious element of ALT1 is beneficial to interestingness but I am open to suggestions.
NØ 14:11, 25 August 2024 (UTC).
Albert Bumgardner
- ... that the Pacific Architect & Builder boosted Albert Bumgardner's career after he designed the magazine's office building?
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:27, 24 August 2024 (UTC).
Ibsen Nelsen
- ... that Dust Bowl refugee Ibsen Nelsen received the Purple Heart and the Fellowship of the American Institute of Architects?
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:17, 24 August 2024 (UTC).
Slave-owning slaves
![Pope Callixtus I, former slave of a slave of a slave](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Pope_Callistus_I_%E2%80%93_Santa_Maria_in_Trastevere.jpg/112px-Pope_Callistus_I_%E2%80%93_Santa_Maria_in_Trastevere.jpg)
- ... that in some human societies there were slaves who owned slaves (example pictured)?
- Source: Gamauf (2023),"Peculium: Paradoxes of Slaves With Property". In Schermaier, Martin (ed.). The Position of Roman Slaves: Social Realities and Legal Differences. Berlin and Boston: De Gruyter. pp. 87–124. doi:10.1515/9783110987195.
- Reviewed:
Ttocserp 15:37, 24 August 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Per DYK rules, you need at minimum one citation at the end of each paragraph that covers all content preceding it. You also need a source for all statements introduced in captions (not cited elsewhere in the article) that go beyond identification of the image's subject. I've added some cn tags where a citation is missing, or axed transition sentences that Wikipedia tends not to use, but I may have missed some.
- Neutral:
- I'd like to see the talk page complaint resolved
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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QPQ: None required. |
Overall: Interesting article. Please consider WP:GAN! (t · c) buidhe 00:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Ttocserp: Please address the above concerns. Z1720 (talk) 23:38, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Typhoon Nat (1991)
- ... that 1991's Typhoon Nat was described as having an erratic track (pictured)?
- Source: Hong Kong Government
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
12:36, 24 August 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- The section titled Analysis is missing an inline citation.
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- The hook is located under Analysis, which contains no inline citations.
- Interesting:
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: The above issues need to be addressed. Also, the article calls the track "erratic," which makes more sense than "erroneous," which is the word the hook uses. Ergo Sum 16:01, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @TheNuggeteer: Please address the above concerns. Z1720 (talk) 23:37, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
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- @TheNuggeteer: Thanks for adding the inline citation. However, since that is a 96 page PDF, there should be citations to specific pages at each inline use, for example, using {{Sfn}}. I did a quick control-F search in that PDF and "erratic" does not come up, so citation to a specific page is necessary. Ergo Sum 01:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Used {{rp}} instead.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
02:18, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Used {{rp}} instead.
Articles created/expanded on August 25
[edit]Self-Ish
- ... that multiple songs on Self-Ish express amnesia caused by recreational drug use?
- ALT1: ... that Self-Ish had frenetic two-hour writing sessions containing screaming because Will Wood was unmedicated? Source: https://nyunews.com/arts/music/2022/04/29/will-wood-interview-in-case-i-make-it/
- Reviewed:
Koopastar (talk) 07:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC).
Happy of the End
- ... that Ogeretsu Tanaka wanted to draw a manga series featuring scenery in Shinjuku, which led to the creation of Happy of the End?
- ALT1: ... that Ogeretsu Tanaka was inspired to create the manga series Happy of the End after taking a morning walk in Shinjuku? Source: https://www.chil-chil.net/compNewsDetail/k/801authors108/no/26553/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Statue of Dirk Nowitzki
lullabying (talk) 03:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC).
Pell v The Queen
- ... that in Pell v The Queen, the High Court of Australia unanimously overturned Cardinal George Pell's conviction for child sex offences?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Palace Theater Light
- Comment: Open for alternative hooks
— MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:59, 27 August 2024 (UTC).
2024 Ohio Issue 1
- ... that the Republican-led Ohio Ballot Board was sued because its official summary for Ohio Issue 1, designed to improve redistricting, stated instead that the initiative would require gerrymandering?
- Source: the Board's summary "describes the amendment, which is specifically intended to prevent partisan gerrymandering, as specifically requiring it."
- ALT1: ... that advocates for Ohio Issue 1, an initiative to stop partisan gerrymandering, sued the Republican-led Ballot Board for a summary that claimed the 2024 initiative would require gerrymandering? Source: see above. On the parties to the lawsuit itself, see: https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/ohio-group-garners-over-700000-signatures-for-ballot-initiative-to-end-gerrymandering/
- ALT2: ... that Ohio Issue 1 was created to end partisan gerrymandering after 5 redistricting maps by the Republican-led legislature were rejected by the Ohio Supreme Court -- and flawed maps were used in 2022? Source: "Courts rejected two congressional maps and five sets of Statehouse maps as gerrymandered. Amid the court disputes, Ohio’s elections were allowed to proceed last year under the flawed maps." https://apnews.com/article/ohio-redistricting-constitutional-amendment-attorney-general-e3e8759ceeabc9538dd4bd49b6c84b52
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I hope the hooks and article are carefully NPOV. Reliable sources usually mention that the legislature and ballot board are Republican-led, since gerrymandering is about partisanship. Fwiw, Issue 1 proponents are described in the press as bipartisan.
ProfGray (talk) 17:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC).
Time (2021 film)
- ... that Patrick Tse won the Hong Kong Film Award for Best Actor with the film Time at the age of 85, making him the oldest recipient of the award?
Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 13:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC).
References
- ^ Lim, Ruey Yan (18 July 2022). "Patrick Tse is oldest Best Actor winner at Hong Kong Film Awards". The Straits Times. Archived from the original on 24 August 2024. Retrieved 24 August 2024.
Veteran actor Patrick Tse has become the oldest actor to win the Best Actor prize at the Hong Kong Film Awards (HKFA) on Sunday (July 17), while Anita, the biopic on late Cantopop superstar Anita Mui, was the biggest winner with five awards. Tse, 85, won the award for his role as a retired assassin in the black comedy Time, which also starred veteran actress Petrina Fung Bo Bo, actor Lam Suet and former radio DJ Chung Suet Ying.
- ^ "Dad joins son with film award". The Standard. 19 July 2022. Archived from the original on 19 July 2022. Retrieved 24 August 2024.
Patrick Tse Yin, aged 85, has become the oldest Best Actor winner in the Hong Kong Film Awards for his role in the 2021 film Time.
Tropical Storm Kai-tak
- ... that the government used military trucks and bulldozers to rescue people from a tropical storm?
- Source: Bulldozers Military trucks
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
01:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC).
Article is in good shape, recently promoted to GA. The hook checks, though the provided source on bulldozers was incorrect -- I have changed it. It might not be the most interesting, given that trucks and bulldozers are commonly used in disaster recovery operations -- could you perhaps suggest a few ALTs?
- I would like to see source data information for File:Urduja 17 Animation.gif, but that is not strictly a requirement for GA, and the article would also benefit from some further copyediting. I can find no evidence of the supposed CC1.0 licence on File:Kai-tak imerg 13-18 december 2017 animated.gif and File:Analysis of Tropical Storm Kai-Tak.jpg, but both should be PD as the work of a US government employee. I can find no other copyvio, BLP or other serious concerns.
- QPQ needs to be done. UndercoverClassicist T·C 16:16, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weird, but I'll try: ALT1: ... that Tropical Storm Kai-tak weakened and strengthened multiple times? [22] [23].
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
04:36, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weird, but I'll try: ALT1: ... that Tropical Storm Kai-tak weakened and strengthened multiple times? [22] [23].
- Again, I'm not sure we've passed the threshold of interest there -- most tropical storms do that, and it's not particularly interesting that they do. Per WP:DYKINT:
The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest
. Can you find anything in the article that would meet that -- for example, things which apply only to this particular storm, or might otherwise be surprising and motivate a reader to click on the article? UndercoverClassicist T·C 08:45, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Again, I'm not sure we've passed the threshold of interest there -- most tropical storms do that, and it's not particularly interesting that they do. Per WP:DYKINT:
- @TheNuggeteer: Please provide a QPQ as soon as possible, as the nomination may be closed without warning if one is not given within a reasonable timeframe. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:53, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ooh! Found an interesting one. ALT2: ...that while soldiers carried out relief operations for Tropical Storm Kai-tak, the New People's Army attacked them? SRC2
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
04:36, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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- I think the text of that one is good -- perhaps creates the false suggestion that the NPA was doing the rescue operation, though. I don't know the source very well but it smells a bit local/tabloidy to me -- have I read that wrong, or do we have a more authoritative source to corroborate? UndercoverClassicist T·C 06:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, definitely local. But the source is regional, and has a three-or-four person editorial team, changed the wording of the hook a bit.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
09:20, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Great -- I've made a couple of my own tweaks for grammar, repetition and concision. We don't generally consider local news or tabloid journalism to be WP:RS -- did it make national or international news? UndercoverClassicist T·C 10:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- What do you mean? The journal itself made national news on other news sources or the journal made national news?
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
11:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Do we have a source that would qualify under WP:RS that supports this hook -- for instance, a piece of national or international news? UndercoverClassicist T·C 13:37, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- What do you mean? The journal itself made national news on other news sources or the journal made national news?
- Yep, definitely local. But the source is regional, and has a three-or-four person editorial team, changed the wording of the hook a bit.
- Ooh! Found an interesting one. ALT2: ...that while soldiers carried out relief operations for Tropical Storm Kai-tak, the New People's Army attacked them? SRC2
Milan A. P. Harminc
- ... that when World War II began, the consul-general of the Slovak Republic in London, Milan A. P. Harminc, broke with his government and sided with the Allies?
- Source: Mikuláš Teich, Dušan Kováč, Martin D. Brown. Slovakia in History. Cambridge University Press, 2011. pp. 194-195
Soman (talk) 18:11, 25 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 26
[edit]YSL Records racketeering trial
- ... that the YSL Records racketeering trial, involving rapper Young Thug, became the longest criminal trial in Georgia's state history?
- ALT1: ... that Young Thug's lawyer claimed during the YSL Records racketeering trial that the "Thug" in his client's name stands for "Truly Humbled Under God"? Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/young-thugs-name-stands-truly-humble-under-god-defense-lawyer-2023-11
- ALT2: ... that song lyrics from Young Thug and other YSL defendants were allowed as evidence in the YSL Records racketeering trial? Source: https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-rules-rap-lyrics-conditionally-evidence-young-thug/story?id=104760646
- ALT3: ... that during the YSL Records racketeering trial, defense attorney Brian Steel was jailed after refusing to reveal the source of information about an alleged secret meeting between the judge and the prosecution? Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/2024/06/12/young-thug-ysl-rico-trial-explained/
- ALT4: ... that during the YSL Records racketeering trial, a drug exchange took place in the courtroom between Young Thug and a co-defendant, leading to new charges? Source: https://www.nbcmiami.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/young-thug-and-kahlieff-adams-made-hand-to-hand-drug-exchange-in-court-prosecutors-say/2955162/
- Reviewed: Thomas Bertrand-Hudon
C F A 💬 02:14, 27 August 2024 (UTC).
Félag hljómplötuframleiðenda
- ... that in 2007–2008, Félag hljómplötuframleiðenda tried to close the Istorrent file sharing website, but failed? Source: Félag hljómplötuframleiðenda sem fóru fram á lögbannið á vefnum (Félag hljómplötuframleiðenda requested the ban on the website); Félag Hljómplötuframleiðenda sem höfða málið (Félag hljómplötuframleiðenda is suing the case); "Torrent.is Wins Case. To Re-open May 16th". Archived from the original on 2018-02-28.
The Supreme Court... dismissed the case over legal formalities.
- ALT1: ... that in 2007–2008, Félag hljómplötuframleiðenda tried to close the Istorrent file sharing website, but the Supreme Court of Iceland dismissed the case? Source: Same as above
- ALT2: ... that only about ten titles have been awarded multi-platinum status by Félag hljómplötuframleiðenda in Iceland? Source: Aðeins um tíu titlar hafa náð slíkri sölu. (Only about ten titles have achieved such sales)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/UnMetal
Muhandes (talk) 11:25, 26 August 2024 (UTC).
Michael P. Walsh (Jesuit)
- ... that Michael P. Walsh oversaw the construction of 15 buildings as president of Boston College?
- Source: Clark, Alfred E. (April 24, 1982). "Rev. Michael Walsh, Headed Fordham During Fiscal Crisis". The New York Times. p. 11. Archived from the original on November 19, 2022. Retrieved August 28, 2023.: "During his years at Boston College, he saw its enrollment greatly expand, supervised the construction of 15 new buildings..."
Ergo Sum 04:51, 26 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 27
[edit]You Liked This (Okay, Computer!)
- ... that the former text-to-speech voice actor of TikTok narrated with predatory corporate language and buzzwords in Will Wood's "You Liked This (Okay, Computer!)"?
- ALT1: ... that the music video for "You Liked This (Okay, Computer!)" ends with an anthropomorphic lizard on the Moon alongside the phrase "Wake Up Sheeple!" on a billboard? Source: https://cloutcloutclout.com/features/unwrapped/will-wood-you-liked-this/
- Reviewed:
Koopastar (talk) 05:22, 5 September 2024 (UTC).
Hermética (album)
- ... that thrash metal band Hermética has a failed project to release a version of their debut album in English?
- Source: Juan Ignacio Provéndola (May 7, 2018). "Hermética: diez curiosidades a 30 años de su debut" [Hermética: 10 trivia 30 years after their debut] (in Spanish). La izquierda diario. Retrieved August 28, 2024.
- ALT1: ... that "Desde el oeste", from Hermética's debut album, was the first recorded song singed by Ricardo Iorio? Source: Blumetti, Frank; Mora, Miguel (October 1993). "Hermética: el sonido de la gente". Madhouse Extra (in Spanish) (2). Buenos Aires: Editorial Llamoso: 14.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Vadym Sukharevsky
Cambalachero (talk) 15:08, 28 August 2024 (UTC).
Centre of Indian Communists
- ... that the Centre of Indian Communists was banned by the Indian central government in July 1975?
- Source: Manoranjan Mohanty. Revolutionary Violence: A Study of the Maoist Movement in India. Sterling Publishers, 1977. pp. xxi, 166
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Rwanda
- Comment: In 2019 this article was converted into a long incoherent essay, with most of the material unrelated to CIC and references used that didn't mention the group at all. I removed all of that, and began expanding from how the article had looked before.
Soman (talk) 22:16, 27 August 2024 (UTC).
I'm going to WP:BOLDLY reject this nom. Uncited and rambling-essay-like text still counts as part of the word count especially when it's around ~ 3 years (unless the text was a copyvio). The way I see it, you went from a 8453 byte article to a 2372 byte article which isn't what DYK eligibility is about. (If I have made a mistake, any reviewer is free to overturn this descision.) Sohom (talk) 03:10, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
I'm confused: did you mean to comment on this nomination, or a different one? This is your own nomination, but your comment above seems to be talking about a nomination other than your own. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC)@Sohom Datta: Fixed ping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)- Narutolovehinata5 The account creating the nom is Soman (who has been around for a lot longer) and I'm Sohom Datta, both of whom are very different people. Sohom (talk) 11:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, I got confused there; I even tried using hovercards to make sure I wasn't seeing things. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- This does seem like this could qualify for IAR, given that the content removed qualified for WP:TNT. I've had a couple of articles accepted on similar grounds (Donna Taggart due to COI expansions, Simone Murphy for BLP violations). That said, a lead section should probably be added and probably some subsections.--Launchballer 14:00, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Lede expanded and sections added. --Soman (talk) 22:30, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, although I've split them into subsections. I'll let an actual reviewer adjudicate on this.--Launchballer 19:06, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Lede expanded and sections added. --Soman (talk) 22:30, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- This does seem like this could qualify for IAR, given that the content removed qualified for WP:TNT. I've had a couple of articles accepted on similar grounds (Donna Taggart due to COI expansions, Simone Murphy for BLP violations). That said, a lead section should probably be added and probably some subsections.--Launchballer 14:00, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, I got confused there; I even tried using hovercards to make sure I wasn't seeing things. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 The account creating the nom is Soman (who has been around for a lot longer) and I'm Sohom Datta, both of whom are very different people. Sohom (talk) 11:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
A lot of wikipedians, myself included, do ground-up rewrites for pretty much every article they approach. But I think there's a difference between wanting to start from scratch because familiarizing yourself with others' content is challenging and starting from scratch because the previous article is a policy violation. In this case, while the article clearly had major problems in structure and formatting, I'm seeing a fair amount of content that wasn't violating any particular policy, and the article could have reasonably preserved it. It also doesn't look like the article could have been eligible for any kind of deletion. So, I don't think I could reasonably call this a new article, unfortunately. As such, I'm marking for closure as ineligible, but my thanks to Soman for submitting a healthy article otherwise :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. So I'd just emphasize that the pre-expansion article version as of Aug 27 could have qualified for WP:HOAX. There were a various false claims made about the CIC in this article, that seem to be completely made up by the wiki author and with fake references (or rather, real books and articles, but that don't mention CIC at all). The Aug 27 may look like a decent article at a glance, albeit with some need need for copy-editing, but once going through the references it was all fake. --Soman (talk) 10:50, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Aviation Accidents in Japan Involving U.S. Military and Government Aircraft Post-World War II
- ... that a secret CIA U-2 spy plane crash-landed in Japan in 1959, sparking a Cold War mystery and cover-up, later shot down by the Soviet Air Defence Forces?
- Source: https://books.google.fr/books?id=uOcrDF0y-CAC&pg=PR7&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=2#v=snippet&q=Fujisawa&f=false (Click on "page 151")
- Reviewed:
Global Donald (talk) 02:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 28
[edit]Dim Montero
- ... that Dim Montero "could pick up a rock and find an outstanding football prospect"?
- Source: The Morning News
- ALT1: ... that football coach Dim Montero was considered such a great recruiter that it was said he "could pick up a rock and find an outstanding football prospect"? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tonya Burns
- Comment: Sorry, I've been distracted with other work and I'm two days late. Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines says
The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:27, 6 September 2024 (UTC).
Eddie Canales
- ... that efforts by Eddie Canales and other activists led to the discovery that some bodies of undocumented immigrants in Texas had been buried in shopping bags?
- Source: Eddie Canales, who campaigned to prevent migrant deaths, dies at 76, Washington Post: "For years, when unidentified bodies were recovered in the county, they were buried, at times in unmarked graves. Mr. Canales and other activists helped push for the enforcement of a Texas law mandating that unidentified remains undergo DNA testing, and championed the exhumation of unidentified bodies from the county cemetery... The effort led to a horrifying revelation when researchers exhuming a mass burial site at the cemetery found remains “in trash bags, shopping bags, body bags, or no containers at all,”"
- ALT1: ... that Eddie Canales set up nearly 200 water stations along an area of the US-Mexico border to save the lives of undocumented immigrants? Source: Eddie Canales, who set up nearly 200 water stations along U.S.-Mexico border, dead at 76, CBC: "He spent much of the last decade of his life travelling along the U.S. southern border to place and refill large barrels of water for those making the dangerous — and often deadly — journey across the arid desert to the U.S... The South Texas Human Rights Center estimates he placed nearly 200 of these water stations across seven counties..."
- Reviewed:
Mrfoogles (talk) 22:35, 4 September 2024 (UTC).
- Note from author: Would appreciate some guidance on how many wikilinks should be added, it seems like DYKs have more of those but I'm not sure exactly how much more. Mrfoogles (talk) 22:47, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Eniaios
- ... that the ongoing premiere of Gregory Markopoulos's Eniaios started 20 years ago?
- Source: "Since 2004, the work has been revealed two or three cycles at a time, at intervals of four years" [24]
hinnk (talk) 22:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
Maximiliano Hernández Martínez
- ... that Maximiliano Hernández Martínez (pictured) was responsible for the deaths of up to 40,000 Salvadoran peasants during La Matanza?
- Source: Tulchin, Joseph S. & Bland, Gary, eds. (1992). "Is There a Transition to Democracy in El Salvador?". p. 167
- ALT1: ... that although Maximiliano Hernández Martínez (pictured) was a fascist, he declared war on the Axis powers during World War II? Source: Astilla, Carmelo Francisco Esmeralda (1976). "The Martinez Era: Salvadoran–American Relations, 1931–1944". pp. 151, 169, 184
- ALT2: ... that Maximiliano Hernández Martínez (pictured) married Arturo Araujo's mistress in order to be his running mate in the 1931 Salvadoran general election? Source: Anderson, Thomas P. (1971). "Matanza: El Salvador's Communist Revolt of 1932". p. 50
- ALT3: ... that the 1939 constitution of El Salvador prohibited re-election, but it granted an explicit exception to incumbent president Maximiliano Hernández Martínez (pictured)? Source: Rauda Zablah, Nelson (11 September 2023). "Re-Election in El Salvador Rhymes with Dictatorship".
- ALT4: ... that Maximiliano Hernández Martínez (pictured) believed in the occult and regularly performed séances at his home while he served as president of El Salvador? Source: Anderson, Thomas P. (1971). "Matanza: El Salvador's Communist Revolt of 1932". p. 51
- ALT5: ... that Maximiliano Hernández Martínez (pictured) believed that hanging colored lights across San Salvador would cure a smallpox epidemic? Source: Haggerty, Richard A., ed. (1990). "El Salvador: A Country Study" (2nd ed.) p. 17
- ALT6: ... that Maximiliano Hernández Martínez (pictured) sold remedies as president of El Salvador which supposedly cured various illnesses, earning him the reputation of being a witch doctor? Source: Anderson, Thomas P. (1971). "Matanza: El Salvador's Communist Revolt of 1932". pp. 50–51 Astilla, Carmelo Francisco Esmeralda (1976). "The Martinez Era: Salvadoran–American Relations, 1931–1944". p. 43
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/325 East 38th Street
- Comment: This guy was such a bizarre character that several more hooks could be created if necessary. I just proposed some of the ones I think are the most strange and interesting.
PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 15:30, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
- @PizzaKing13: As you already have more than five nominations, you are required to provide a QPQ. As per a recent rule change, a QPQ should have been provided at the time of the nomination. One must be provided soon, or else the nomination is liable to be closed without warning. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:34, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
El Eternauta: tercera parte
- ... that El Eternauta: tercera parte kept its creator Héctor Germán Oesterheld as a viewpoint character, even though he was dead?
- Source: Daniel Riera (April 27, 2022). "El Eternauta: la inmortal historieta de Héctor Oesterheld, el guionista desaparecido" [The Eternaut: the immortal comic of Héctor Oesterheld, the disappeared writer] (in Spanish). Big Bang News. Retrieved August 29, 2024.
Cambalachero (talk) 18:49, 29 August 2024 (UTC).
Looking over this now. Will return with a review shortly... —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Article is new and long enough. No problems with Earwig. A few small issues, however. Some of the material in the article lack citations. For example, the lead contains two statements that are missing citations to confirm (they're not confirmed anywhere in the article body). The entire "Plot" section is unsourced. The proposed hook itself is interesting, but needs to be rewritten. It states that Héctor Germán Oesterheld himself was a character in his own comic, who was retained after he died. In fact, the cited source states that the character of Germán was "Oesterheld's character" ("el personaje de Oesterheld"), but does not explicitly state that it is him. (Native Spanish speaker here, by the way.) The source makes clear that the character is certainly based on him; the hook needs to be reworded accordingly. Another detail that needs to be ironed out is that the hook unequivocally states that Oesterheld is dead. However, all sources I've read state that he is presumed dead. Even if his death is certain, I'm not sure that it could've been declared official at the time this third part of the comic was published in 1981, while the Dirty War was still ongoing. Otherwise, this is a very interesting article about a subject I previously had zero knowledge of! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have rewritten the lead. Plot sections of articles about works of fiction do not require citations; it is accepted that the book itself is the source. That Oesterheld included himself as a character within the first two stories he wrote does not need to be referenced either, for similar reasons (he's not even the first author who uses that trick, see here). The hook, however, focuses on the real-life stuff about the character. As for his death, it is correct that his death had never been officially confirmed by the military, but his kidnapping was denounced by the family and other organizations shortly after April 1977, and informed by Cadena Informativa on September 1977. It's all in reference 1. A bit off-topic for this article (better suited for HGO's biography, or the second part), but clearly not a situation that Ediciones Record didn't know. They may be in the dark about the details, but not about their star writer being missing and reported kidnapped by the military. Cambalachero (talk) 01:31, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Over My Dead Body (2023 film)
- ... that Jer Lau, who starred in the film Over My Dead Body, also performed its theme song because the director felt his role was too minor?
- Source: [1]
Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 12:45, 29 August 2024 (UTC).
References
- ^ "死屍死時四十四|何爵天專訪 自認鏡粉睇中「Jerdan」化學作用 搵柳應廷唱高難度主題曲「加戲」" (in Chinese). am730. 26 March 2023. Archived from the original on 28 August 2024. Retrieved 26 August 2024.
何導更自爆嫌客串演出的阿Jer戲份太少,故特地找他唱高難度的電影主題曲《鹹魚遊戲》,並呼籲觀眾要一戲呵成聽埋首主題曲。
[Director Ho (Cheuk Tin) even revealed that he found Jer Lau's cameo role too small, so he specifically invited him to sing the challenging theme song "Salted Fish Game" as well, urging the audience to listen closely to the theme song as they watch the film.]
Kitsap (Suquamish leader)
- ... that in 1825, the Suquamish leader Kitsap led an alliance of tribes stretching from the Columbia River to Puget Sound to stop the Cowichan slave raids wreaking havoc on the Sound?
- Source: Buerge (2017)[25] p.33: "....when the Suquamish chief Kitsap organized a confederacy to meet a threat from the north."
Ibid. p. 41-42: "The most feared were the Cowichan ... Slave raids had led the Cowichan far from their homes in search of human merchandise ... by spreading havoc on the sound, they likely intended to eliminate rivals and make the HBC come to them"
Ibid. p.42: "The confederation Kitsap engineered stretched from central Puget Sound to the Columbia River, and Old Man House was its nexus."
Ibid. p. 43: "The attack likely took place around 1825 ... Kitsap and other Suquamish men took the lead"- Reviewed:
PersusjCP (talk) 16:51, 28 August 2024 (UTC).
- QPQ done: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Counterintelligence_Group PersusjCP (talk) 16:54, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Afrique Victime
- ... that Mdou Moctar's Afrique Victime was also released on Nokia devices (specifically the Nokia 6120) to honor his former albums?
- Source: SRC
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
03:41, 28 August 2024 (UTC).
GA status confirmed, date is fine. Various GA-related quality aspects confirmed as meeting DYK standards. Still needs a QPQ review. Hook needs improvements; not Nokia devices, but a single device (the article states "In homage to his first albums, which he spread using Bluetooth, he released a collector's edition Nokia 6120 handset."). And while this is not a DYK concern, I think this part of the article should be expanded - how can one spread albums using Bluetooth? How does one include an album in a handset (the source states it was pre-loaded onto a classic handset, which is confusing - what exactly was that item)? If I was a GA reviewer I'd expect this to be addressed (expanded with clarifications in the text). Ping GA reviewer User:Vigilantcosmicpenguin.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- The "spreading albums using Bluetooth" thing is already explained in the article Mdou Moctar, so I figured it's WP:Summary style to exclude that info from this article. But I agree that the article should be clearer, so tweaked. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 16:12, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Finished the hook request.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
09:04, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 29
[edit]Seed oil misinformation
- ... that despite a panic to the contrary, most researchers think seed oils are healthy and reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease?
- Source: "most cardiovascular health researchers believe omega-6 fatty acids are safe and healthy. The American Heart Association has stated that a reduction in omega-6 fatty acids could lead to an increase, not reduction, in cardiovascular disease."
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I understand this is beyond the seven-day limit; however, I'd like to request an extension for two reasons. First, that this is my first DYK so I didn't know there was a deadline; and second, that this is a medical-related topic so it's best that the article has been shown to be stable.
Dan • ✉ 04:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
- Way too weak. It's not a "most researchers think" thing; the seed oil misinformation is utter nonsense on many levels. Bon courage (talk) 06:01, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Lake Erie Walleye Trail fishing tournament cheating scandal
- ... that the two anglers caught cheating in a Cleveland fishing tournament two years ago today might have been able to win without putting weights in their fish?
- Source: "Even without the weights, the men’s fish might have been heavy enough to earn them team of the year, prosecutors said." Fishermen who cheated at Lake Erie walleye tournament in Cleveland get jail time", The Plain Dealer; May 11, 2023.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Laurence Patrick Lee
- Comment: Per the wording of the hook I would like this to run on the anniversary of the event: September 30, so we have plenty of time
Daniel Case (talk) 19:34, 5 September 2024 (UTC).
BenSw
- ... that BenSw is the face behind the NotLikeThis meme?
- ALT1: ... that BenSw, the younger brother of the late Aaron Swartz, led a team archiving the USENET posts in Google Groups to the Internet Archive as a tribute to Aaron? Source: https://bensw.com/blog/Aaron-5-Years-Later/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Adam Berdichevsky
paul2520 💬 14:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
- @Fluddsskark: Please provide a QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:09, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: What is that? Fluddsskark (talk · contributions) 11:52, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I provided one as part of the nomination. See Reviewed above! = paul2520 💬 12:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Norma Bahia Pontes
- ... that Norma Bahia Pontes was once said to be "the only Brazilian filmmaker who has worked professionally with half-inch videotape"? Source: Norma é a única cineasta brasileira que trabalhou profissionalmente com o videotape de meia polegada./Norma is the only Brazilian filmmaker who worked professionally with half-inch videotape.
- ALT1: ... that filmmaker Norma Bahia Pontes had to work as an advertising executive with the escalation of the military dictatorship in Brazil? Source: A partir de 1970, Norma trabalhou como diretora de publicidade ... Com recrudescimento da repressão ... Considerando o vínculo de Norma ao PCdoB, a esta altura na ilegalidade, Norma e Rita optaram pelo auto exílio em Nova Iorque/From 1970 onwards, Norma worked as an advertising director ... With the intensification of repression ... Considering Norma's ties to the PCdoB, which was now illegal, Norma and Rita opted for self-exile in New York (p. 31-32)
- ALT2: ... that some of the work of lesbian feminist filmmaking pioneer Norma Bahia Pontes is lost media? Source: Norma Bahia Pontes ... was a pioneer in lesbian feminist video production in the United States during the 1970s. (p. 21) + Just another crime, next door this (s/d) time ... Sua cópia até agora não pôde ser localizada assim como a cópia de The Kid at Times Square and the Bird on Broadway (s/d) / Just another crime, next door this (undated) time ... A copy of it has not yet been located, as has that of The Kid at Times Square and the Bird on Broadway (undated). (p. 35) + Rita admite ter destruído a cópia do vídeo por achar que havia falas demais. Nos trechos que restaram ... o único o vídeo que realizou na década foi A Cor da Terra (1988, 35') com Ana Porto, cuja cópia não foi possível localizar. / Rita admits to having destroyed [her copy of the video because she thought there were too many lines. In the remaining excerpts ... the only video she made in the decade was A Cor da Terra (1988, 35') with Ana Porto, a copy of which could not be located. (p. 42)]
- ALT3: ... that during her last years, lesbian feminist filmmaking pioneer Norma Bahia Pontes was committed to psychiatric hospitals by her homophobic sister? Source: Com a deterioração de sua saúde, passou a viver com a irmã que condenava seu o estilo de vida livre e sua lesbianidade, e que a internou em clínicas psiquiátricas até sua morte em 2010/As her health deteriorated, she began to live with her sister, who condemned her free lifestyle and her lesbianism, and who admitted her to psychiatric clinics until her death in 2010. (p. 42)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/ComicBook.com
ミラP@Miraclepine 03:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC).
List of oral repositories
- ... that oral repositories are individuals trusted with memorising a society's oral traditions, and have been termed "walking libraries"?
- Reviewed:
Kowal2701 (talk) 16:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC).
Actinote zikani
- ... that Actinote zikani was rediscovered in Brazil ten years after being declared extinct?
- ALT1: ... that Actinote zikani is one of only two butterflies on the IUCN's list of the 100 most threatened species? Source: https://portals.iucn.org/library/sites/library/files/documents/2012-096.pdf
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Voss (Alexander McQueen collection)
- Comment: This is a translated article.
- comment: Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins has significantly contributed to the article GA
Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 12:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
Reviewing..., Article is new enough and long enough. The citations need formatting and duplication clean-up immediately, you have the same refs multiple times, and names should not be capscase, among other issues. Also citations should not be in the lede, if something is in the lede, it should be in the body with a citation there. Also beware of peacockery.--Kevmin § 16:46, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Sir MemeGod: of initial comments.--Kevmin § 17:18, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: I have fixed the lede, fixed (most) of the peacockery issues, and there are no duplicate citations as of my last check, 2 minutes ago. Apologies for not getting back sooner, I had COVID and really wasn't in the mood to edit. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 12:38, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- The fixes are good, I'm going to pause the nom review to see what the GA review outcome is.--Kevmin § 16:31, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, that makes sense. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 16:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
KXXV
- ... that a Texas TV station was founded by a man claimed to be an "artful dodger"? Source: https://newspapers.com/article/waco-tribune-herald-man-denies-allegatio/129515949/
- ALT1: ... that seven people died when their helicopter struck supporting wires of a Texas TV station's tower and crashed? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/waco-tribune-herald-fort-hood-black-hawk/133056231/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Josh Katz
- Comment: ALT0 is not a BLP issue; the man in question died in 2008.
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:29, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review (and as much as I'm thankful for you reviewing three of my GAs, I still review oldest first!), but it took me a while to parse ALT0, as I wrongly assumed it was missing the word "who". I would suggest either "once described as" instead of "claimed to be" or taking out "a man claimed to be". (Also, you mentioned that The Cock Destroyers was a red link at Talk:Megan Barton-Hanson/GA1, and you may be interested to know it now has an article.)--Launchballer 17:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
The Right and the Wrong
- ... that The Right and the Wrong was one of the first two films produced by Trinidad and Tobago?
- Source: Paddington, Bruce; Warner, Keith Q. (Winter 2009). "The Emergence of Caribbean Feature Films". Black Camera. 1 (1). Indiana University Press: 94, 98–99. doi:10.2979/blc.2009.1.1.91. JSTOR 10.2979/blc.2009.1.1.91. S2CID 144560687. Retrieved 2024-08-29 – via JSTOR.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Book of Longings
- Comment: In May 2022, this began life as my second-ever page creation at AFC (arriving just a day after my work on the Carib Theatre, a venerable landmark of Kingston, Jamaica). Sadly, due to space limitations on my old Galaxy Tab, and lack of time/commitments, the traction trailed off and G13 took hold. Fast forward to late June two years later, when I requested it back after beginning to revive my fortunes at this project. (There's a reason I set up that certain queue to begin with.) After a days-long expansion stint with The Book of Virtues (itself a DYK candidate at this writing), I decided to fulfill my article-ETA and last-DYKN-before-end-of-August promises--and here we finally are. (Despite me coming down with a cold a couple of days before this writing [due to spending so many hours awake], and still feeling the effects as I type here.)
- To say this topic's title sounds highly reminiscent of the Bell Dramatic Serial soaps...but that's besides the point here.
- For those keeping track on XTools (at least for the next couple of hours), this nomination officially marks my 20,000th edit on the English Wikipedia--14 years after my last milestone. (Helped a lot--and then some--by my ongoing backlog-clearance drive of AFC's unassessed list, whose near-conclusion my pitch also coincides with.) Many thanks to those I've met on this edition ever since February 2005--whether they're still editing or not.
- Seriously, WP needs more coverage on audiovisual media from the Commonwealth Caribbean--and we've only just started by now. A special shout-out to Trinidadian stalwart Guettarda (talk · contribs · count), and CaribDigita (talk · contribs · count) of Barbados; as an occasional reminder, I'm a Commonwealth of Dominica expatriate. Guettarda's recent essay, "Decolonizing Wikipedia" (which I discovered several hours before press time), is recommended reading for future Caribbean-based editors. Here's hoping more from my own native homeland take up the mantle from here.
- As always, stay tuned for several more candidates of mine in the months to come. Take care--and I'll see you back!
- P.S. Reddit's loss had better be this community's gain--and I know it as a veteran of both platforms. (It'll be Digg all over again when reports of the userbase's vitriol this week over an extremely loathed, uncalled-for UI revamp hit the wires of The New York Times et al....if they ever do--and they should.)
Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 02:47, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:11, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
- some
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Looks mostly good. Have to AGF on the paywalled source. As for the hook, the article seems a bit unclear: the hook says one of the first two in Trinidad, but all I see in the prose of the article is
1970's The Right and the Wrong and The Caribbean Fox, both directed by Harbance Kumar, were the first English-speaking films to be produced natively in the West Indies.
Could you clarify in the article that it is one of the first two Trinidad films if that is the case? Also, would it be better to say it is one of the first two films produced in Trinidad, rather than by Trinidad? BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:17, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Shinichi Ishizuka
- ... that manga artist Shinichi Ishizuka was told that becoming a manga artist would be "absolutely impossible"? Source: https://tokion.jp/2021/02/26/shinichi-ishizuka-creative-expression/
- Reviewed: Cosmetic Playlover
Created by Link20XX (talk). Self-nominated at 00:21, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
Manhood: The Masculine Virtues America Needs
- ... that Josh Hawley's book Manhood was his second published by Regnery, after being dropped by Simon & Schuster for his support of the January 6 United States Capitol attack?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Noting that with Missouri's polls opening October 23 and in accordance with WP:DYKELECT: if approved, this will have to appear no later than September 23 or be held until after the 2024 United States Senate election in Missouri, to November 6. Thanks, Bobby Cohn (talk) 00:31, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Bobby Cohn (talk) 00:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 30
[edit]Mitch Torres
- ... that writer, director, and first Indigenous Australian on-air presenter for SBS Television Mitch Torres is a "self-proclaimed damper destroyer"?
- Source: "Mitch Torres was SBS’s first Indigenous presenter (1988) and went on to do her journalism cadetship with ABC TV news, later becoming the first presenter and field journalist for GWN’s long-running magazine program Millbindi." "AFTRS Honorary Degrees For Lynette Wallworth, Cherie Romaro and Mitch Torres". Australian Film Television and Radio School. 21 May 2021. Retrieved 30 August 2024.
- ALT1: ... that in the mockumentary BabaKiueria, Mitch Torres played the role of a reporter following the lives of a "‘typical’ white family", described a football match as "ritualised violence" and betting at the TAB as a religion? Source: "Presenter Duranga Manika (Michelle Torres) describes her fascination with white people and their customs and explains how she spent six months living with a ‘typical white family’" "Elsewhere Manika describes the football match as ritualised violence and betting at the TAB as a religion" Matthews, Kate. "Babakiueria: 'This strange and fascinating people'". National Film and Sound Archive. Government of Australia. Retrieved 1 September 2024.
- Reviewed: Dorothy Stanley
- Comment: Per DYK guidelines, there is a two day eligibility window following a week after creation so it should fall within this window. Thank you for the reviewer for your time in advance! ALT1 is a bit lengthy, so I am open to any ways for it to be shortened while keeping the hook-iness.
Ornithoptera (talk) 20:28, 7 September 2024 (UTC).
Brenden Bates
- ... that Brenden Bates "loves moving people against their will"?
- Source: Kentucky.com
BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:44, 6 September 2024 (UTC).
- @BeanieFan11: Please provide a QPQ as soon as possible. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:55, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- I will do it tomorrow. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:56, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra
- ... that İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra once opened the national women's chess championships as Northern Cyprus' Minister of Health? Source: Açılışını Sağlık Bakanı İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra’nın yaptığı ... Kadınlar Satranç Şampiyonası çekişmeli ve heyecanlı bir şekilde sona erdi./The Women's Chess Championship, which was opened by the Minister of Health İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra ... ended in a competitive and exciting manner.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Diplodus argenteus
- Comment: Northern Cypriot DYKs are very rare, and I haven't done one of these before. Hope I did this right.
ミラP@Miraclepine 15:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC).
Filomena Fortes
- ... that Filomena Fortes once said she was "a bit critical of top-level sports in Cape Verde" despite being president of both its National Olympic Committee and its handball governing body? Source: Fortes [became president of the Cape Verdean Handball Federation. In 2014, she became the first woman to become president of the Cape Verdean Olympic Committee.] + Sou um pouco crítica em relação ao desporto de alta competição em Cabo Verde, talvez por não ter estado sempre cá e ter tido outra vivência do que é o desporto de alta competição./I am a bit critical of top-level sports in Cape Verde, perhaps because I haven't been here all the time and have had a different experience of top-level sports.
- ALT1: ... that Filomena Fortes once said she was "a bit critical of top-level sports in Cape Verde" despite being president of its National Olympic Committee? Source: As above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Don Goodwin
ミラP@Miraclepine 15:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC).
Destruction of cultural heritage during the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip
- ... that cultural heritage sites damaged during the Israeli invasion of Gaza include the Great Mosque of Gaza, an ancient port, a university library, and cemeteries?
- Source: The information in the hook is drawn from a few different sources:
- Gostoli, Ylenia; Abu Riash, Abdelhakim (2023-10-20). "'We were baptised here and we will die here': Gaza's oldest church bombed". Al Jazeera. Archived from the original on 2023-10-28. Retrieved 2024-04-01.
- "Images show major damage to Gaza's oldest mosque". BBC News. 2023-12-08. Archived from the original on 2024-06-21. Retrieved 2024-06-26.
- "How Israel has destroyed Gaza's schools and universities". Al Jazeera. Retrieved 2024-05-25.
- Diamond, Jeremy; Darwish, Muhammad; Salman, Abeer; Brown, Benjamin; Mezzofiore, Gianluca (2024-01-20). "At least 16 cemeteries in Gaza have been desecrated by Israeli forces, satellite imagery and videos reveal". CNN. Archived from the original on 2024-01-20. Retrieved 2024-04-04.
- Gostoli, Ylenia; Abu Riash, Abdelhakim (2023-10-20). "'We were baptised here and we will die here': Gaza's oldest church bombed". Al Jazeera. Archived from the original on 2023-10-28. Retrieved 2024-04-01.
- "Images show major damage to Gaza's oldest mosque". BBC News. 2023-12-08. Archived from the original on 2024-06-21. Retrieved 2024-06-26.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Victoria Siddall
- Comment: The choice of image may not work as well with Alt1.
Richard Nevell (talk) 21:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC).
MyRadar
- ... that the weather app MyRadar created a satellite constellation to help predict the forecast?
- ALT1: ... that the weather app MyRadar was created after the creator wondered if a meal he was eating outdoors would get rained out? Source: https://www.floridatrend.com/article/29787/an-orlando-app-developer-builds-on-his-50-million-downloaded-myradar
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Henry Kailimai
Johnson524 14:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC).
Kim Hye-seon
- ... that South Korean comedian Kim Hye-seon once went to the hospital before a recording of the sketch comedy show Gag Concert?
- Reviewed: N/A
Wuju Daisuki (talk) 22:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC).
Psycho Mantis
- ... that the boss battle with Psycho Mantis in Metal Gear Solid required players to switch controller ports in order to beat him?
- https://www.escapistmagazine.com/psycho-mantis-quest-ce-que-cest/
- "But unfortunately for him, these technological shenanigans work both ways – through he can read every button press on controller 1, controller 2 is a mystery to him. By plugging your controller into the second port, your movements are concealed, leaving Psycho Mantis as little more than a bug-eyed piñata."
- https://www.ign.com/articles/2009/11/17/big-boss-of-the-day-metal-gear-solids-psycho-mantis
- "Gamers will initially find that Mantis can block all of Snake's attacks with ease. The only solution is to physically switch the controller from one port to another."
- ALT1: ... that the character Psycho Mantis in the video game Metal Gear Solid breaks the fourth wall by telling the player other games they play?
- Banks, Jamie; Meija, Robert; Adams, Aubrie (June 23, 2017). 100 Greatest Video Game Characters. Rowman and Littlefield Publishers. pp. 155–156. ISBN 978-1442278127.
- "After this, Psycho Mantis probes deeper by scanning the player’s physical memory card and commenting on select Konami titles; for example, “You like Castlevania, don’t you?”"
- https://www.escapistmagazine.com/psycho-mantis-quest-ce-que-cest/
- "He turns every scrap of information into a dirty little secret he dangles over your head, even going so far to bring up other games you’ve played: Castlevania, Suikoden, Vandal Hearts. A remake of the game is on the GameCube, and it’s particularly disconcerting to hear Mantis hiss, as if through clenched teeth, “So … you’ve been playing Super Mario Sunshine, haven’t you?”"
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Been a while since I've done a nomination, so I hope everything is alright with this nomination.
Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 17:43, 31 August 2024 (UTC).
Tuhi Martukaw
- ... that Pinuyumayan journalist Tuhi Martukaw led youth delegations to the United Nations Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues for 10 years in a row?
- Source: "At 31, Hung Chien has been attending the U.N. Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues for 10 years in a row." Yu, Pei-hua (9 September 2016). "Puyuma youth speaks for indigenous peoples worldwide". Taiwan Today. taiwantoday.tw.
- ALT1: ... that Pinuyumayan journalist Tuhi Martukaw is known to international Indigenous activists as "Jocelyn" and to local Indigenous youth activists as "Sis"? Source: "Members of local indigenous youth organizations nickname her Sis, and her indigenous movement activist friends from overseas call her Jocelyn. She is Jinumu among her tribal friends and relatives, while her official Puyuma name at the TITN is Tuhi Martukaw." Yu, Pei-hua (9 September 2016). "Puyuma youth speaks for indigenous peoples worldwide". Taiwan Today. taiwantoday.tw.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Auckland (meteorite)
- Comment: Thank you so much in advance to the reviewer for their time in advance. I hope you have a wonderful time reading the article!
Ornithoptera (talk) 02:35, 31 August 2024 (UTC).
AdventHealth Daytona Beach
- ... that AdventHealth Daytona Beach is the home of the 10th Timmy's Playroom?
- Reviewed:
- ALT1 : ...that AdventHealth Daytona Beach has won an "A" grade from The Leapfrog Group twenty-five consecutive times in a row?
- ALT2 : ...that AdventHealth Daytona Beach was originally from Ormond Beach?
Catfurball (talk) 21:00, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
This is not intended to be a full review and I have no plans of giving this a full review, but a quick look at the article suggests that this is in need of a copyedit. In addition, the current hook probably does not meet WP:DYKINT as not being likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing. A new hook will be needed here, in any case. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
String Quartet No. 16 (Shostakovich)
- ... that had Dmitri Shostakovich composed his String Quartet No. 16, it would have completed a "mathematical version" of his DSCH monogram?
- Source: "The Thirteen-ness of the Thirteenth Quartet" by Iain Strachan in the DSCH Journal (July 2024): "Shostakovich had apparently intended to make a mathematical version of his DSCH signature in the key sequence of his quartets. Given that the musically logical sequence of keys indicated that if the composer had lived to complete a sixteenth quartet, it would have been in B major, this meant that the major key quartets of DSCH would all have been on the quartets whose numbers were perfect squares, namely 4, 9, 1, and 16".
- ALT1: ... that there is no String Quartet No. 16 by Dmitri Shostakovich? Source: "Shostakovich and the 'Sixteenth Quartet'" by Krzysztof Meyer and Henny van der Groep in the DSCH Journal (July 2014)
- ALT2: ... that Dmitri Shostakovich's String Quartet No. 16 has three movements, including a lyrical middle, ends with a double fugue, and does not exist? Source: Ibid; "Fifty Years Ago: April–September 1974" by Krzysztof Meyer (translated by Bryan Rowell) in DSCH Journal (July 2024)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/El Eternauta: tercera parte
- Comment:
QPQ coming soon.For what it's worth, my preference for these ALTs are in reverse order, with ALT2 being my most preferred. Also, is it possible to run this DYK on September 25, for the 118th anniversary of Shostakovich's birth?
CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:20, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. It is properly sourced; as all the sources are offline I am assuming good faith on verification here. ALT0 has a sourcing issue: the reference backing it up comes at the end of the relevant paragraph; according to WP:DYKG, the supporting footnote should be at the latest at the end of the sentence supporting the hook fact, which in this case is the DSCH signature aspect. ALT2 is a rather complicated hook so I'm rather disinclined to approve it. My preferred hook is actually ALT1; however, the article does not actually seem to back it up. The article is unclear if the String Quartet was even started, or if it was started but simply unfinished: if it was the former, then ALT1 is accurate. To be sure, I'm pinging Kingsif and RoySmith regarding ALT1 as both are knowledgeable about quirky hooks and their suitability. If ALT1 is unsuitable, only ALT0 will be approved.
- There is another major concern: the lack of a QPQ. Per a recent discussion, the guidelines have changed so a QPQ should now be provided at the time of the nomination, rather than up to a week afterwards. As such, please provide a QPQ as soon as possible, as the nomination may be failed without further warning if one is not given soon. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingsif and RoySmith: It appears that the above ping did not work for some reason. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:04, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I strongly prefer ALT1; the others are just too complicated. Also see T371948. RoySmith (talk) 10:13, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- While I have some questions about the focus of the article and whether it should really be about Meyer's work and how it was inspired by an uncomposed Shostakovich, if the reviewer is happy with it as is, I have no problems with alt1. I would object to alt0 on being too difficult. Kingsif (talk) 11:41, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 could work, but it's cruising for a pruning, as in ALT2a: ... that Dmitri Shostakovich's String Quartet No. 16 does not exist?--Launchballer 15:35, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you all for bearing with me. QPQ is done. May I suggest the following amended ALT?
- ALT2b: ... that Dmitri Shostakovich's String Quartet No. 16 has three movements, but does not exist?
- @Narutolovehinata5: Meyer seems to imply in the transcript of his 1974 visit to Shostakovich and in his 2014 interview that the quartet was never even sketched. However, in the latter he also states ambiguously (emphasis mine): "[A]las, [Shostakovich] was not able to complete the project regarding the Sixteenth [Quartet]". Neither of the articles cited specifically details how much progress, if any, Shostakovich had made on this work at this point or ever. My copy of Meyer's monograph on the composer (in the Spanish translation) is also of no help; his mention of the work therein is even more fleeting. I've looked through the various books by Sofia Khentova, Shostakovich's official biographer, including her massive two-volume biography, which is far more exhausting in detail than any current English language books on the composer. It mentions various obscure odds-and-ends and aborted projects—but no String Quartet No. 16. Derek C. Hulme's Dmitri Shostakovich: The First Hundred Years and Beyond has an entire appendix devoted to such works. Again, no mention of this quartet. I've also not been able to find mention of it in the various Russian language sources in my personal library or in Levon Akopyan's editorial notes in the ongoing New Collected Works Edition of the quartets. For what it's worth, it's probably more likely that Shostakovich never went beyond working through the quartet in his mind. By 1974, his neuro-muscular disorder had made writing extremely difficult and exhausting for him. Consider that he had not even begun to work on the Fifteenth Quartet on April 11, 1974. (Meyer's visit and questioning may have been the catalyst to finally get work on that going: his first extant sketches are dated April 13.) The penmanship in the autograph copy of his last work, the Viola Sonata from July 1975, clearly evinces that it was a struggle just to get the notes to paper. (By this point, he could only write by having his left hand support his right.) Meyer is by far the most informative source on this cryptic work... but, unfortunately, he leaves a number of questions dangling. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5, Launchballer, Kingsif, and RoySmith: Pinging as a courtesy. Please let me know if any work remains to be done on this nom. I'll be happy to amend the ALTs further if needed. Would like this to get approved and be included on the DYK for September 25, the 118th anniversary of Shostakovich's birth. Thank you all. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- As much as I really like the "doesn't exist" angle, it seems that the sourcing and circumstances just aren't strong enough to justify it, so regrettably it may have to be dropped. Maybe Theleekycauldron has some more ideas on how to move forward. ALT0 is probably acceptable, but honestly not as good and I doubt it would get as much interest from readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Could ALT1 possibly work? The wording is also slightly more ambiguous than the other ALTs, which unequivocally state that the work does not exist at all. There really is no "String Quartet No. 16" insofar as a published piece of music is concerned, but the wording of ALT1 doesn't rule out the fact that unfinished sketches, etc. may exist. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:26, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 is actually the sticking point here. The accuracy of the hook depends on how one interprets "there is no String Quartet No. 16." If one means "it was never made", yes it's accurate. If one means "it never existed", then exactly what "exist" means is the issue. The finished product doesn't exist, but as you said there's ambiguity if sketches or work was made. If they did, it technically did exist, if in an unfinished/unreleased state. Even if not, one could argue that it did exist as a concept if not as a composition that was at least attempted, so the hook is too vague and ambiguous. Even if it were to be approved, I can see it going to WP:ERRORS and/or WT:DYK before being pulled. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:54, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Could ALT1 possibly work? The wording is also slightly more ambiguous than the other ALTs, which unequivocally state that the work does not exist at all. There really is no "String Quartet No. 16" insofar as a published piece of music is concerned, but the wording of ALT1 doesn't rule out the fact that unfinished sketches, etc. may exist. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:26, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Severe Tropical Storm Lionrock (2010)
- ... that 2010s Severe Tropical Storm Lionrock track was also affected by Tropical Storm Namtheun and Typhoon Kompasu (pictured)?
- Source: Source Thingy
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
14:23, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
The article was initially created using material from the 2010 Pacific typhoon season article. When that happens, per DYK rules, the copied material must be expanded 5x, just as needs to happen with pre-existing articles that are expanded. In this case, 1505 prose characters in have been copied in the current version of Severe Tropical Storm Lionrock (2010), meaning that to qualify for DYK, the article must be 7525 prose characters. At the moment, however, it is only 4068 prose characters, so another 3457 prose characters will need to be added for the article to be eligible for DYK, more than has already been added to the article from the original 2010 material. While that seems unlikely, I've used the "Maybe" icon rather than the "Rejected" icon in case TheNuggeteer believes they can do an expansion in the next week or so. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:12, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
1939 New York World's Fair pavilions and attractions
- ... that Nazi Germany did not have a pavilion at the 1939 New York World's Fair because it lacked money? Source: Stern, Robert A. M.; Gilmartin, Patrick; Mellins, Thomas (1987). New York 1930: Architecture and Urbanism Between the Two World Wars. New York: Rizzoli. p. 826
- ALT1: ... that Nazi Germany was the only major nation to not have a pavilion at the 1939 New York World's Fair? Source: "Fair Defies Nazis on Czech Pavilion; Center Will Open as Planned in Spite of Prague Order to Dispose of Building". The New York Times. April 14, 1939.
- ALT2: ... that the pavilions at the 1939 New York World's Fair were painted in a hundred colors, some of which were developed for the fair? Source: Hardesty, Lynn (December 25, 1938). "World's Fair Uses Dramatic Color Effects: Previews of New York Exhibit Buildings Amaze Art Critics". The Washington Post. p. R1.
- ALT3: ... that some paint colors were developed specifically for the pavilions at the 1939 New York World's Fair? Source: Hardesty, Lynn (December 25, 1938). "World's Fair Uses Dramatic Color Effects: Previews of New York Exhibit Buildings Amaze Art Critics". The Washington Post. p. R1.
- ALT4: ... that attractions at the 1939 World's Fair included a roller coaster, a ski slope, and scantily clad women? Source: (1) "A Super-coaster Promised to Fair; Whalen Signs Contract for 'Thrillingest' Giant Ride' Absolutely Safe, Too!'". The New York Times. December 17, 1938; (2) "Fair's Sun Valley to Mirror Idaho's; Winter Sports All Summer to Feature $500,000 Village in the Amusement Area". The New York Times. February 1, 1939; (3) "New York World's Fair Drops Modesty For Allure of Umph: Sally Rand's West Coast Success Breaks Down Resistance to Displays of Pulchritude". Daily Boston Globe. April 10, 1939. p. 7.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Glennda and Camille Do Downtown
- Comment: I can come up with more hooks later.
Epicgenius (talk) 14:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
No Poop July
- ... that the TikTok trend No Poop July garnered backlash from doctors?
- Source: SRC
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Edmonds Band Rotunda
- Comment: Weird hook, but oh well.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
13:50, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
article has been draftified and doesn't look likely to return soon, so, marking for closure. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think it can't be returned, I have found 10+ sources, but I only used two just to make this article fast, maybe I can expand it?
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
05:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)All right, but please have the article ready to submit soon :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 05:21, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think it can't be returned, I have found 10+ sources, but I only used two just to make this article fast, maybe I can expand it?
full review needed. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 01:44, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 31
[edit]Diplodus argenteus
- ... that despite being commonly found off the coast of country, the etymology of Diplodus argenteus' name has nothing to do with Argentina?
- Source: ETYFish Fish name etymology database: https://etyfish.org/acanthuriformes6/
- ALT1 ...that while adult Silver porgies prefer to inhabit the surf zone, juveniles prefer tidepools while sub-adults frequent beds of seagrass? Sources: Wells, V. Carpenter, C. 2011. A Field Guide to Coastal Fishes from Maine to Texas. Baltimore. Johns Hopkins University Press. Robins, C.R. and G.C. Ray, 1986. A field guide to Atlantic coast fishes of North America. Houghton Mifflin Company, Boston, U.S.A. 354 p. Cervigón, F., 1993. Los peces marinos de Venezuela. Volume 2. Fundación Científica Los Roques, Caracas,Venezuela. 497 p.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Huang Shaoqiang
Ryan shell (talk) 19:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC).
Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 20:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- I will kindly AGF the offline sources, but many parts of the article is unsourced. Paragraph four has an unsourced statement, and the "Biology" paragraph is unsourced; there’s also one ending in "FAO REF?". Ref 1 doesn't specify it's a "gamefish" beyond vague "if fished incidentally" (which doesn't clarify individual scale nor if it's done commercially or recreationally, especially when next to "commercial importance") nor mention angling. I can't seem to find the 2.5g weight in ref 11.
Ref 16 doesn’t say “the silver porgy is generally standoffish and seldom approaches divers”; while it says “D. argenteus had always been seen in the gulfs”, it doesn’t go beyond only a few year-round divers identifying the species."Or anything to do with Argentina's etymology" seems so OR-y and debatable; both of them come from the same Latin word. - Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems:
- “fairly high probably” should be “fairly high probability”
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Overall: Nom four days after creation and size at 3871. There are several sourcing issues you'll have to fix, as well as a QPQ to provide; see above. Also, it would help if you could provide online links to the refs since it'll make the reviewers' jobs better; I had to find some of them myself with the WP:LIBRARY providing access to some of them, and I’ve linked them in the refs. And please refrain from using redundant sources; I only needed 12/13 to verify one of the claims that also had ref 9 attached. ミラP@Miraclepine 22:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I believe I've fixed most of the more pressing issues around left over annotations and poor sourcing. That said, I recognize that there could be a case to be made for OR and have provided an alternative hook, that I am much more in favor of using. In the coming day's I'll probably delete or rewrite problematic areas as I dig up and cross check source problems. Ryan shell (talk) 02:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- The most pressing issue is the missing QPQ. They are due at the time of nomination and if it is still missing a week later, the nomination will be rejected. Schwede66 18:30, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just finished QPQ for the nom of Huang Shaoqiang. Not sure if adding it here will suffice or notRyan shell (talk) 20:05, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Link to review for convenience: Template:Did you know nominations/Huang Shaoqiang. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:38, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ryan shell: While the ALT1 seems boring, I'm fine with ALT0 because the issue I raised was on being related to Argentina's etymology but not Argentina the country. That said, while the gamefish issue has been fixed - I crossed off the ref 16 issue because I put in the wrong ref, silly me - no other issues have been resolved and the article still has unsourced paragraphs. BTW I'm pretty sure it's more convenient to add the QPQ in the "Reviewed" line. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:25, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just finished QPQ for the nom of Huang Shaoqiang. Not sure if adding it here will suffice or notRyan shell (talk) 20:05, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- The most pressing issue is the missing QPQ. They are due at the time of nomination and if it is still missing a week later, the nomination will be rejected. Schwede66 18:30, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
The Cock Destroyers
- ... that the first drag girl band to enter the UK top 40 took their name from a pair of porn stars (pictured separately), who later presented Slag Wars: The Next Destroyer? Source: https://www.out.com/sex/2020/11/13/matthew-camp-cock-destroyers-host-slag-wars-tv-show#rebelltitem17 for Slag Wars in all hooks, https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/drag-pop-album-frock-destroyers-b1769880.html for everything else
- ALT1: ... that Matty Healy once described the Slag Wars: The Next Destroyer presenters The Cock Destroyers (pictured separately) as "terrifying"? Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwhy6Vyh1kM, at around 18:34 - we used to have an article about the episode
- ALT2: ... that the Slag Wars: The Next Destroyer hosts The Cock Destroyers (pictured separately) once released a "gloriously queer" sex education video for Netflix? Source: https://www.thepinknews.com/2020/03/12/cock-destroyers-lgbt-inclusive-sex-educaiton-netflix-rebecca-more-sophie-anderson/
- ALT3: ... that the Slag Wars: The Next Destroyer porn star duo The Cock Destroyers (pictured separately) received coverage from the BBC after going viral? Source: https://theface.com/culture/cock-destroyer-how-rebecca-more-went-from-meme-to-the-uks-most-loved-adult-star
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aracy Amaral, Template:Did you know nominations/Liberalism in the Philippines
- Comment: Slag Wars 5x expanded on 11 September. I had no idea More was bringing it back.
Launchballer 17:09, 31 August 2024 (UTC).
Anaïs Gallagher, Oasis Live '25 Tour
- ... that following the announcement that Liam Gallagher and Noel Gallagher were to reunite for Oasis Live '25 Tour, Noel's daughter Anaïs Gallagher criticised some fans for ageism and sexism? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/music/article/2024/aug/30/noel-gallagher-daughter-anais-oasis-fans-ageism-misogyny
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sebastian Zouberbuhler (double nom)
- Comment: Many thanks to Aibo22 for creating an article about a topic I had previously written an article about, but which was deleted at AfD 9+ years ago. Oasis Live '25 Tour is a 5x expansion of an article created less than a week ago.
Launchballer 15:28, 31 August 2024 (UTC).
- @Launchballer: Since this is a double nomination, you will need to provide an additional QPQ. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have. That's a double nom.--Launchballer 05:55, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies for not noticing! Just make it clear in the nomination so that a reviewer will be aware. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- A reviewer should check before ticking it off, but I've added a note anyway. As for adding an additional QPQ, there's probably just enough room for "that after Liam and Noel Gallagher's band Oasis announced for 2025 "the most controversial band reunion since the Sex Pistols' 1996 Filthy Lucre Tour", Noel's daughter Anaïs Gallagher criticised some fans for ageism and sexism?", so you might get lucky. I should probably write the third article first though.--Launchballer 08:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies for not noticing! Just make it clear in the nomination so that a reviewer will be aware. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have. That's a double nom.--Launchballer 05:55, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Since this is a double nomination, you will need to provide an additional QPQ. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 1
[edit]Svayamvara
![The Svayamvara ceremony of princess Damayanti by Warwick Goble, 1913](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/Damayanti_choosing_her_husband_in_her_Svayamvara_%28crop%29.jpg/111px-Damayanti_choosing_her_husband_in_her_Svayamvara_%28crop%29.jpg)
- ... that in ancient Indian literature, princesses would select their husbands from a lineup of suitors or through public contests in the distinctive matrimonial tradition called Svayamvara (pictured)?
- Source: A Dictionary of Hinduism, Oxford Publications "For the daughter of a royal or a kṣatriya family, a way of selecting a husband which takes the form of either of a public contest between her suitors, or an assembly at which the bride-to-be simply chooses between them. Perhaps the best-known instances occur in the Mahābhārata, where Arjuna wins Draupadī by this method, and Damayantī prefers Nala to any of the assembled gods."
- Brockington, John L (2006). "Epic Svayaṃvaras, Voice of the Orient: a Tribute to Prof. Upendranath Dhal". Academia.edu: 35–42.
- Reviewed:
Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 06:05, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
: Seems new and long enough, almost entirely written by nominator; I have a few very minor problems with the sourcing that I think can be resolved by just copying some nearby sources, which I tagged: specifically, I think there should be a citation for the 1st paragraph of "Svayamvara in the Rg Veda" and one place in the 1st paragraph of "Damayantī's Svayamvara". Also, I think it would be more clear if the source at the end of the last paragraph of the lead were duplicated to the first two paragraphs as well if it applies to them, and per the DYK guidelines, I think that the source given has to be present at the end of the sentence giving the claim present in the hook. Don't see any neutrality issues. Article is (listing criteria) presentable, image & hook seem good, no other complaints. As for copyvio, not sure what the standards are on manual "spot-checks", so I'm leaving that for a second reviewer. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @User:Mrfoogles, done what you have suggested.Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 06:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Citation problems seem resolved, all that's left is a copyright check. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @User:Mrfoogles, done what you have suggested.Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 06:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
List of chronic pain syndromes
- ... that chronic pain is considered a syndrome because of the associated symptoms that develop in those experiencing chronic pain?
- Source: Mostoufi et al. 2020: "Chronic pain is a pain status that persists beyond a reasonable expected healing period for the involved tissue. It is chronic if it persists for 6 months or more despite active treatment. It is called a syndrome because a constellation of symptoms develops in those patients facing chronic pain."
- ALT1: ... that chronic pain is a prevalent condition that affects approximately 20% of people and accounts for 15-20% of visits to a physician? Source: Treede et al. 2015: "Chronic pain is a frequent condition, affecting an estimated 20% of people worldwide and accounting for 15% to 20% of physician visits."
- ALT2: ... that in order to create a classification system for chronic pain, the International Association for the Study of Pain (IASP) collaborated with the World Health Organization (WHO) to form a Task Force for the Classification of Chronic Pain? Source: Treede et al. 2015: "Responding to these shortcomings, the International Association for the Study of Pain (IASP) contacted the WHO and established a Task Force for the Classification of Chronic Pain."
- ALT3: ... that pain is the most common symptom of cancer at the time of diagnosis? Source: Bennett et al. 2019: "Pain is the commonest symptom of cancer at diagnosis and rises in prevalence throughout and beyond cancer treatment."
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I have a slight preference for the first two hooks but am fine with any of them being used.
CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 02:53, 1 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 2
[edit]Pachyballus ornatus
- ... that although Pachyballus ornatus is known for its bright pattern, the female is dark and plain while it is still young?
- Source: Wesołowska, Wanda; Azarkina, Galina N.; Wiśniewski, Konrad (2020). "A revision of Pachyballus Simon, 1900 and Peplometus Simon, 1900 (Araneae, Salticidae, Ballini) with descriptions of new species". ZooKeys (944): 78. doi:10.3897/zookeys.944.49921. PMC 7340629. PMID 32684773.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: An unusual beetle-like jumping spider from Congo and Tanzania.
simongraham (talk) 18:41, 5 September 2024 (UTC).
Saleh Shahin
- ... that Arab rower Saleh Shahin won a bronze medal for Israel at the 2024 Paris Paralympics, 19 years after he was injured in a terrorist attack?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Poecilia vandepolli
- Comment: Nominated on behalf of an IP editor who has also provided the QPQ.
Schwede66 23:18, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
Myvanwy Rhys
... that Oxford suffragist Myvanwy Rhys presented a bouquet of irises to Millicent Fawcett at the Royal Albert Hall? Source: "She was one of the delegation who carried the OWSS banner to London in 1908, and presented a bouquet of irises to Millicent Fawcett at the Albert Hall." https://www.firstwomenatoxford.ox.ac.uk/sites/default/files/owcah/documents/media/oxford_suffrage_women_.pdf (p.11 in pdf reader)
Lajmmoore (talk) 20:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
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- Interesting:
- I’m concerned the hook may not be legible to many readers; I am reasonably interested in related topics and still had not heard of Millicent Fawcett, and the entry does not explain.
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Thank you for nominating this interesting and worthy entry! If I could make one general recommendation for making this important topic more accessible to the non-specialist reader, I think regardless of the hook, the entry could benefit from a few words explaining who Fawcett was, and likewise to explain what the Bangor dispute was (currently it’s a bit mysterious). As to the hook, I wonder if it would be more interesting to say something like:
ALT1 ... that Oxford suffragist Myvanwy Rhys earned first-class honours from Newnham College, Cambridge, but was denied a degree?
Tell me what you think. Innisfree987 (talk) 05:34, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks so much Innisfree987 - these are all great points. I hope @Manxshearwater: can expand the points in the article. As for the ALT - I think that's much better, thank you for coming up with it, I've scratched the top one Lajmmoore (talk) 06:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Wonderful! @Manxshearwater: maybe you could just ping me once you’ve had a chance to look and then I’ll tick off the nomination? It doesn’t need to be anything elaborate, just another half sentence’s explanation would be plenty I think—I’m almost tempted to do it myself but it would be much better if someone familiar with the topic did! Thank you both, I enjoyed learning about Rhys! Innisfree987 (talk) 06:49, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Innisfree987: @Lajmmoore: Thanks, great points and I have added some info on Fawcett and on the Bangor dispute so hopefully that helps! Happy with the nomination and I think the alt hook is great. Glad you enjoyed learning about her too! Manxshearwater (talk) 10:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you both for such quick responses—good to go! Innisfree987 (talk) 17:19, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks so much Innisfree987 - these are all great points. I hope @Manxshearwater: can expand the points in the article. As for the ALT - I think that's much better, thank you for coming up with it, I've scratched the top one Lajmmoore (talk) 06:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
JerAx
- ... that Jesse "JerAx" Vainikka was the first Dota 2 player to reach four consecutive Valve Major finals, achieving this milestone with Team Liquid and OG? Source: [26][27]
- ALT1: ... that Jesse Vainikka, also known as JerAx, became the highest-earning individual player in esports in 2018 after winning two consecutive The International titles with OG in Dota 2? Source: [28]
ALT2: ... that Jesse "JerAx" Vainikka auctioned his Team Liquid gaming chair for €5,300 to benefit the charity, Save the Children, surpassing auction prices of signed jerseys from Lionel Messi and Wayne Rooney?Source: [29]- Reviewed:
Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 18:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC).
- Responding to this: Per MOS:SURNAME: "
After the initial mention, a person should generally be referred to by surname only
[...]When a majority of reliable secondary sources refer to persons by a pseudonym, they should be subsequently referred to by their pseudonymous surnames, unless they do not include a recognizable surname in the pseudonym (e.g. Sting, Snoop Dogg, the Edge), in which case the whole pseudonym is used. For people well known by one-word names, nicknames, or pseudonyms, but who often also use their legal names professionally – e.g., André Benjamin ("André 3000"), Jennifer Lopez ("J.Lo"); doctor/broadcaster Drew Pinsky ("Dr. Drew") – use the legal surname.
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I checked the article's refs and they all seem to use the pseudonym, at least in their titles. But if we don't want to use the pseudonym, then the surname Vainikka should be used instead of the given name Jesse. (I left this comment here, because it affects this nomination's caption.) 2001:14BA:9C40:0:2898:CC7C:F3E7:9062 (talk) 19:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think it affects the nomination's caption/hook, as I have used both his real name and his in-game name. Let the reviewer decide if the article/hook needs further clarity regarding the surname. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 07:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Partial review here: ALT2 seems the most interesting to me, seconded by ALT1; ALT0 is not as interesting without much esports context. Article is new enough, long enough, and written by the nominator. (Don't plan to review rest, just dropping in) Mrfoogles (talk) 06:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 is above the 200 character limit and needs to be trimmed. Maybe something like:
- ALT2a ... that a gaming chair used by Jesse "JerAx" Vainikka sold at an auction for €5,300, surpassing prices of signed jerseys from Lionel Messi and Wayne Rooney?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- What about ALT2b: "... that a gaming chair used by Jesse "JerAx" Vainikka sold at a charitable auction for €5,300, surpassing prices of signed jerseys from Lionel Messi and Wayne Rooney?" Also fits within the character limit and mentions that its a charitable auction, which I think is also one of the interesting parts. Changes it from "someone really wanted this gaming chair" to "gaming chairs can be competitive in charitable auctions", kind of. Mrfoogles (talk) 18:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 is above the 200 character limit and needs to be trimmed. Maybe something like:
- Didn't notice the character limit on ALT2. ALT2a/ALT2b are both fine by me. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Pan He
- ... that the Chinese sculptor Pan He used his Reunion to commemorate both the handover of Macau and his return to his beloved cousin?
- Source: Jiang, Xinchen (November 26, 2020). "潘鹤:渔女之父的珠海情缘" [Pan He: The Father of the Fisherwoman and His Love for Zhuhai]. Southcn.com (in Chinese). China South Publishing & MediaGroup. Archived from the original on September 1, 2024. Retrieved September 1, 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the Chinese sculptor Pan He created the Zhuhai Fisher Girl (pictured), an icon of Zhuhai? Source: Jiang, Xinchen (November 26, 2020). "潘鹤:渔女之父的珠海情缘" [Pan He: The Father of the Fisherwoman and His Love for Zhuhai]. Southcn.com (in Chinese). China South Publishing & MediaGroup. Archived from the original on September 1, 2024. Retrieved September 1, 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Abduction of Jonila Castro and Jhed Tamano; Template:Did you know nominations/Teodoro Asedillo
- Comment: Personally I prefer ALT1, as Zhuhai Fisher Girl is new
but doesn't qualify as it wasn't 5x on the split.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but the copied paragraph from Zhuhai was 1311 characters and Zhuhai Fisher Girl is now 5904, which is a 4.5x expansion. I'd IAR that. You'd need a second QPQ for it though.--Launchballer 00:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I'd love that. I can rework this tomorrow as a double nom. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:07, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies, I should have said "not a review (and I review oldest first so would not get to this any time soon)". (Not sure why I forgot, I say that literally every other time.)--Launchballer 01:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, no worries - I review the same way. I didn't even think of requesting IAR, which is what "I'd love that" refers to. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies, I should have said "not a review (and I review oldest first so would not get to this any time soon)". (Not sure why I forgot, I say that literally every other time.)--Launchballer 01:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Per above, requesting IAR for Zhuhai Fisher Girl. Also noting that the text on the original paragraph was trimmed by ~150 characters. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Full review needed for both articles.--Launchballer 01:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Haravijaya
- ... that Ratnākara's Haravijaya is the longest extant Sanskrit mahākāvya?
- Source: Peter Pasedach 2011 p.3–4
- ALT1: ... that the Haravijaya has been praised in many Sanskrit anthologies and works on rhetorics? Source: Peter Pasedach 2011 p.6–7.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: A mahākāvya not studied very often due to its length and technical difficulty. There are a surprising number of gaps in Wikipedia's coverage of Sanskrit and Dharmic literature generally, I'm happy to bring an article from a neglected area to DYK. regards,
TryKid [dubious – discuss] 11:23, 2 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 3
[edit]Anna Haifisch
- ... that the comics character The Artist shares a common temperament with its creator, cartoonist Anna Haifisch (pictured)?
- ALT1: ... that the graphic style of Anna Haifisch (pictured) is a combination of dark melancholy and silly elements? Source: https://www.mkg-hamburg.de/en/exhibitions/anna-haifisch
- ALT2: ... that cartoonist Anna Haifisch (pictured) has been bending the rules of comics? Source: https://www.itsnicethat.com/articles/anna-haifisch-drifter-illustration-270617
- Reviewed: Moses Benjamin Wulff
- Comment: A biography of an unusual and successful woman cartoonist
Munfarid1 (talk) 20:13, 6 September 2024 (UTC).
- QPQ is required at the time of nomination. Schwede66 18:49, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Yang Pao-an
- ... that Yang Pao'an (pictured) held several roles in the Kuomintang, but was executed by the party?
- Source: Meng, Hong (24 May 2021). "杨匏安:对党"公忠不可忘"的先驱" [Yang Pao-an: A Pioneer Who Was "Unforgettable in His Loyalty to the Party"]. People's Daily (in Chinese). Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party. Archived from the original on 3 September 2024. Retrieved 3 September 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the Chinese communist Yang Pao'an (pictured) drew from Japanese thought? Source: Meng, Hong (24 May 2021). "杨匏安:对党"公忠不可忘"的先驱" [Yang Pao-an: A Pioneer Who Was "Unforgettable in His Loyalty to the Party"]. People's Daily (in Chinese). Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party. Archived from the original on 3 September 2024. Retrieved 3 September 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ani ni Aisaresugite Komattemasu
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
- Please note that there is currently a move request on the talk page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Move request has closed. Article should be okay. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Hymenophyllum axsmithii
- ... that the filmy fern Hymenophyllum axsmithii was suggested to be closer in relation to a neotropical species group and not a local native species?
- Source: Pigg et al (2001) page 804 "Similarly, the new record of Hymenophyllum axsmithii as a member of subgenus Sphaerocionium and morphologic similarities to extant epiphytic humid tropical montane forest species of Sphaerocionium highlight climatic and biogeographical linkages between the early Eocene Okanogan Highlands of the Pacific Northwest of North America and the Neotropics. ...the family in the region, which today hosts a single species, Hymenophyllum wrightii" (in a different subgenus per Chang et al 2022 " Subgenus Mecodium"
- ALT1: ... that researchers want Hymenophyllum axsmithii rhizomes so they can tell if the filmy fern was up a tree? Source: Pigg et al (2021) page 803 "Currently, the fossil record for Hymenophyllaceae reviewed in this article is not sufficiently robust, particularly with respect to critical features of the rhizome, to establish the presence of an epiphytic growth form. ... Clearly, finding additional fossil representatives of Hymenophyllaceae with rhizomes will be essential for documenting the origin and evolution of the epiphytic growth habit within this family.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Strobilanthes tonkinensis
Kevmin § 20:21, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
The Nualas
- ... that The Nualas were always Nuala, Nuala and Nuala? Source: https://sotcaa.org/comment/nualas.html
- ALT1: ... that Anne, Sue, Tara, Susanna, Karen, Maria, and Josephine have all been Nualas? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/image/904033742/ , https://www.chortle.co.uk/review/2014/08/22/29767/the_nualas:_hello_again,_were_the_nualas , https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=bwh&AN=200304081051704117&lang=en-gb&site=eds-live&scope=site
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tauba Tauba (song)
Bogger (talk) 14:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
Current nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on September 4
[edit]Hurry Up Tomorrow
- ... that the Weeknd's sixth studio album, Hurry Up Tomorrow, serves as the final part of an album trilogy that includes his previous two albums, After Hours (2020) and Dawn FM (2022)?
- ALT1: ... that the Weeknd's sixth studio album, Hurry Up Tomorrow, will serve as his final album under that stage name? Source: https://www.vulture.com/article/the-weeknd-final-album-everything-we-know.html
- Reviewed:
𝘮𝘪𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘦𝘭'𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘮𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘺, 16:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
Gigi Perez, Sailor Song (song)
- ... that following criticism from far-right conservative Christian communities over a lyric in "Sailor Song", Gigi Perez replied that her songwriting was "not a democracy"? Source: https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/who-is-gigi-perez-new-artist-blowing-up-with-viral-hit-sailor-song/
Launchballer 09:11, 5 September 2024 (UTC).
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- Not a super surprising thing for a songwriter to say
QPQ: - Not done
Overall: Recognize that QPQs are coming up, so this is a bit early; only issue is I feel like the hook could be a bit more interesting. Mrfoogles (talk) 17:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Proposing ALT1: "... that songwriter Gigi Perez first went viral for a song on TikTok, where she had begun to upload videos to cope with her grief?". Maybe Gigi Perez could use ALT1, and Sailor Song could use ALT0, if it is possible to add two DYKs with one nomination? Also, since I'm new, if anyone wanted to double-check my copyvio checking that would be appreciated (not that I think there is any). Mrfoogles (talk) 17:29, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. You can definitely split up a nomination post hoc - see Talk:Lucy Tun for one such example - however hook interestingness does not depend on topic, so if it isn't good enough for Gigi, it won't be good enough for Sailor Song. I've taken the liberty of renumbering your ALT0a to ALT1 as it introduces new information, and would suggest ALT1a: that the "Sailor Song" songstress Gigi Perez first began uploading content to TikTok to cope with grief? - but you will still need a new reviewer for that. I do however wonder if it's worth leaving 'not a democracy' out of ALT0 and running the rest, i.e. ALT0a: ... that the lyrics of Gigi Perez's "Sailor Song" received criticism from far-right conservative Christian communities?--Launchballer 22:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Also, I have no idea what you mean by "QPQs are coming up" - I've done everything required by WP:DYKRI.--Launchballer 15:18, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 5
[edit]Moses da Rieti
- ... that Moses da Rieti was the first Hebrew poet to write in the rhyming verse form of Dante?
- Reviewed:
cc @User:GordonGlottal Andre🚐 19:31, 7 September 2024 (UTC).
- Given that general readers may not know what "terza rima" is, a minor reword (perhaps changing the term to something more accessible) may be needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:04, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Seems fair, maybe we should add the phrase "rhyming verse form" afterwards? Andre🚐 01:17, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Or you could just replace "terza rima" with "rhyming verse form" in the hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 6
[edit]Michael Sugrue
- ... that Michael Sugrue became an "internet phenomenon" during the COVID-19 pandemic for his lectures on YouTube covering "the last 3,000 years of Western intellectual history” recorded in 1992?
- Source: "Michael Sugrue, 66, Dies; His Talks on Philosophy Were a YouTube Hit
After an academic career spent in near obscurity, he became an internet phenomenon during the pandemic by uploading talks he had given three decades earlier.
The college lecturer, in a uniform of rumpled khakis and corduroy blazer, paces on a small stage, head down. “The lectures you’re about to see,” he says in introducing a series of talks, videotaped in somewhat hokey lo-fi style in 1992, “cover the last 3,000 years of Western intellectual history.""
NY Times- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sophie Scamps
- Comment: Alt hooks welcome!
Thriley (talk) 17:49, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
1917 Łódź City Council election
- ... that whilst socialists got 31% of the votes in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (campaign poster pictured), they only won five seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?
- Source: Telma Tadeusz. Pierwsze wybory do Rady Miejskiej m. Łodzi, in Rocznik Łódzki, Vol. 11 (14). Państwowe Wydawnictwu Naukowe, 1966. pp. 134, 138-146, Antoni Goerne. Wybory do Rady Miejskiej w Lodzi w styczniu 1917, in Informator m Lodzi z kalendarzem na rok 1919. pp. 76-83
Soman (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC).
- I'm not taking on the review, but just leaving a comment, as I'm puzzled. Without context, this may not be hook-notable I believe. The question left unaddressed is five seats out of how many. If it is five seats out of 15, this would seen rather non-notable. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:F804:C954:1D4C:5D11 (talk) 03:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- I went back and forth on the wording of the sentence, but with the 200 characters cap it is difficult to get all nuances and factoids included. For me "only five" implies that it is less than proportional, but a rewording could be to replace "five seats" with "8%". --Soman (talk) 10:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
General eligibility:
- New enough:
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- Borderline eligible for "lead needs expansion" cleanup tag
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Image eligibility:
- Freely licensed:
- The licensing is incorrect, at issue is not the photograph copyright but the poster itself ({{PD-1923}} in the United States, not sure about Poland)—then you can use {{PD-scan}}
- Used in article:
- Clear at 100px:
- all you can see is a number 5
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Overall: The article looks mostly fine, but I'm not sure about the hook. Non-proportional electoral systems are typical outside of continental Europe, where proportional representation based systems are more common. First past the post can cause equal amount of distortion. (t · c) buidhe 04:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- But the hook states that the reasons for the disproportionality is the curiae system, which is arguably something different from FPTP dynamics. The curia system would be very weird present-day, to explicitly discriminate in favour of the wealthiest. There are some alternate takes on the on the hook, like ALT1 "... that while 55% of the voters in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) were working class, they only got 10 out of 60 seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?" or ALT2 ... that the curiae-based electoral system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionally favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties? Now ALT2 would require a bit of a rewrite in article and need another image though. --Soman (talk) 19:23, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding the clarity of image, I selected precisely because it had symbolism that was readable even at 100px. I don't think we'd expect people to read the fine print, but in 100px the number 5 is clearly visible (5 times) and the largest text is readable ('vote for our list'). The designer of the poster wanted that a reader catch the number 5 clearly even from a distance. --Soman (talk) 19:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- But the hook states that the reasons for the disproportionality is the curiae system, which is arguably something different from FPTP dynamics. The curia system would be very weird present-day, to explicitly discriminate in favour of the wealthiest. There are some alternate takes on the on the hook, like ALT1 "... that while 55% of the voters in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) were working class, they only got 10 out of 60 seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?" or ALT2 ... that the curiae-based electoral system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionally favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties? Now ALT2 would require a bit of a rewrite in article and need another image though. --Soman (talk) 19:23, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- My point is that many electoral systems intentionally or not result in disproportionate seats for certain parties at the expense of others, thus it cannot really be a surprising fact that this particular electoral system has that result. (t · c) buidhe 19:19, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Again, this is not comparable to the issues from FPTP or STV electoral systems. Here was a case where an electoral system was explicitly designed to give a absolute majority to the wealthiest sections of society, with the explicit and publicly stated goal of ensuring a stable conservative majority. Now at the time the principle 1 citizen 1 vote was not universal by any means, but for present-day readers this is certainly something that would raise eyebrows. --Soman (talk) 21:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I know a bit about how pre-German Revolution electoral systems worked in Germany (and as you've written here, applied to occupied territories), but the average reader doesn't. So I think if you are going to take that angle, it needs to be more clear in the hook. (t · c) buidhe 22:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Again, this is not comparable to the issues from FPTP or STV electoral systems. Here was a case where an electoral system was explicitly designed to give a absolute majority to the wealthiest sections of society, with the explicit and publicly stated goal of ensuring a stable conservative majority. Now at the time the principle 1 citizen 1 vote was not universal by any means, but for present-day readers this is certainly something that would raise eyebrows. --Soman (talk) 21:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Tempered chocolate
- ... that researchers speculate cocoa butter forms crystals on sugar while chocolate is tempered?
- Source: Pirouzian et al. (2020), pg. 2: "The addition of the sugar particles promoted the formation of polymorphs with lower melting points. It was suggested that the sugar acted as a heterogeneous nucleation agent, prolonging the nucleation and growth of cocoa butter crystals since foreign surfaces acted as nucleation sites for crystallization"
- Reviewed:
Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 11:05, 6 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 7
[edit]Cathy Merrick
- ... that Cathy Merrick was the first woman elected Grand Chief of the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs?
- Source: "A woman will lead the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs for the first time in its nearly 35-year history." "Cathy Merrick elected as 1st woman to lead Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs". CBC News. Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. The Canadian Press. October 26, 2022.
- ALT1: ... that Grand Chief Cathy Merrick is the sixth person and first woman to lie in state at the Manitoba Legislature? Source: "On Wednesday, Merrick's body will be taken to the Manitoba Legislature, where it will lie in state. She will be the first woman given the honour, and the first person to lie in state at the legislature since 2013." "Lying in state is a rare honour in Manitoba. Five others have preceded Merrick, a provincial spokesperson told CBC" "Dignitaries, public sign book of condolences for Cathy Merrick at Manitoba Legislature". CBC News. Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. CBC News. September 10, 2024. Retrieved September 11, 2024.
- Reviewed: Kuomintang Building (Vancouver)
- Comment: Thank you so much to the reviewer for their time in advance!
I'll work on the QPQ later today hopefully.Done!
Ornithoptera (talk) 21:13, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
Yumeshima Station
- ... that the extension to the Yumeshima Station was originally supposed to be opened in 2008 for when the Osaka Olympics was being bidded for?
- Reviewed:
ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 03:48, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
The Anacrusis
- ... that sci-fi video game The Anacrusis is named for the musical term?
- Source: GameSpot
- ALT1: ... that video game The Anacrusis is named for the musical term, the players caught up in an alien invasion "in the beats before [it] turns to soldiers, pilots, and space fighters"? Source: GameSpot
- ALT2: ... that The Anacrusis was the debut video game by Stray Bombay, a studio co-founded by Left 4 Dead writer Chet Faliszek? Source: IGN
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Terrace on the Park
- Comment: The first hook was chosen because the game has an interesting name which readers may not be familiar with. ALT1 is a longer version with more context, but maybe clunky/long. ALT2 goes a different route, Left 4 Dead is highly regarded and popular (and the subject is widely noted to be similar), so this could draw readers in.
hahnchen 01:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
- I will review this. TompaDompa (talk) 14:56, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Teleke Lauti
- ... that politician Teleke Lauti unseated a former Prime Minister with a campaign managed by a former Prime Minister?
- Source: Islands Business / TuvaluIslands.com (defeated Kamuta Latasi; campaign was run by his uncle, former Prime Minister Toaripi Lauti)
- ALT1: ... that politician Teleke Lauti unseated a former Prime Minister, was unseated himself by a future Prime Minister, and later ran again to replace a former Prime Minister? Source: same for 'unseated a former Prime Minister'; lost to Latasi and Kausea Natano (future PM) in 2002 (could add another source verifying Natano as being a future PM if needed); Fenui News for running to replace a former PM (Latasi in 2018)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Edward J. York
- Comment: Open to other ways of wording. Would like it if it could be featured by the end of the month, prior to the end of the Wikipedia:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest (since I'm competing with the Tuvalu flag).
BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:02, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
48th Hong Kong International Film Festival
- ... that the 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival canceled the screening of a politically themed film due to the "inability to locate suitable copies", despite the film being showcased 3 years ago?
- ALT1: ... that Karena Lam was named the ambassador of the 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival, making her only the second woman to hold this position? Source: [3]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/M503
- Comment:
Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 14:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
References
- ^ "國際電影節突取消放映《去年煙花特別多》 陳果感可惜:咩都可以發生" [[Hong Kong] International Film Festival Suddenly Cancels Screening of The Longest Summer — Fruit Chan Expresses Regret: Anything Could Happen.]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). 9 March 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024.
原定在第四十八屆香港國際電影節中放映的《去年煙花特別多》日前突然取消,主辦方指「因找不到合適拷貝而未能放映」,改爲放映電影《墮胎師》。該電影由本港獨立電影導演陳果執導,他回覆本報查詢說,對於《去年》未能放映感到可惜,又稱近日才接獲電影節通知指沒有菲林拷貝而取消放映,不清楚是否涉及其他原因。《去年》於1998年上映,與《香港製造》及《細路祥》合稱「九七三部曲」,以香港主權移交及華裔英兵故事作爲背景,電影中亦穿插主權移交及解放軍入城等片段。
[The screening of The Longest Summer, originally scheduled for the 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival, was suddenly canceled. The organizers stated that it could not be shown "due to the inability to locate suitable copies", and the film The Abortionist will be screened instead. Directed by local independent filmmaker Fruit Chan, he responded to [Ming Pao's] inquiry by expressing regret that The Longest Summer could not be screened. He mentioned that he only recently received notification from the festival that there were no film copies available, and he is unsure if there are other reasons involved. The Longest Summer was released in 1998 and is part of the "1997 Trilogy," along with Made in Hong Kong and Little Cheung. It sets against the backdrop of Hong Kong's sovereignty handover and stories of Chinese-ethnic British soldiers. The film also features segments about the handover and the arrival of the People's Liberation Army.] - ^ "「找不到合適拷貝」 國際電影節撤播《去年煙花特別多 》" ["Unable to Find Suitable Copies": International Film Festival Withdraws Screening of The Longest Summer.]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). 10 March 2024. Archived from the original on 9 September 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024.
第48屆香港國際電影節本月28日開幕,由獨立電影導演陳果執導的《去年煙花特別多》突然被取消放映,改為放映同由陳果執導的《墮胎師》。主辦方在電影節節目及訂票手冊中稱「因找不到合適拷貝而未能放映」。陳果昨回覆本報稱,對於《去》未能放映感可惜,近日才接獲電影節通知稱沒有菲林拷貝而取消放映,不清楚是否涉其他原因。翻查資料,《去》曾於2017年在香港藝術中心古天樂電影院放映,當年主辦方與今屆電影節主辦方同為香港國際電影節協會(HKIFF)。《去》2021年也曾在兆基創意書院放映室放映,播放的是35mm菲林拷貝。
[The 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival opened on the 28th of this month. The screening of The Longest Summer, directed by independent filmmaker Fruit Chan, was suddenly canceled, and it was replaced with The Abortionist, also directed by Fruit Chan. The organizers stated in the festival program and ticketing booklet that it could not be screened "due to the inability to locate suitable copies". Chan expressed regret over the cancellation of The Longest Summer, stating that he only recently received notification from the festival that there were no film copies available and is unsure if there are other reasons involved. According to records, The Longest Summer was previously screened in 2017 at the Hong Kong Arts Centre's Gigi Leung Cinema, with the same organizers as this year's festival, the Hong Kong International Film Festival Society (HKIFF). The film was also screened in 2021 at Lee Shau Kee School of Creativity, using a 35mm film copy.] - ^ Lo, Zabrina (20 March 2024). "Karena Lam on the lack of gender equality in the local film industry, and her ambassadorships with French May and Hong Kong International Film Festival". Tatler Asia. Archived from the original on March 29, 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024.
To say Taiwanese Canadian actress Karena Lam has a packed calendar is an understatement. This year, she replaces Aaron Kwok as the ambassador of the Hong Kong International Film Festival which will take place from March 28 to April 8—becoming the second woman to be offered this position since actress Miriam Yeung in 2011.
Flag of Falcón state, Monument to the Venezuelan Federation
- ... that the current Flag of Falcón state (pictured), first hoisted at the Monument to the Venezuelan Federation in 2006, was based on the design of the 1806 naval flag of Francisco de Miranda?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Uzun-Hajji
- Comment: qpq review is a double nom
Soman (talk) 14:16, 8 September 2024 (UTC).
New York Hall of Science
- ... that the physicist Alan J. Friedman walked through water to become the New York Hall of Science's director? Source: MacGowan, Carl (May 9, 2004). "1 museum $68M = Science City, Thanks to Alan Friedman, the future is bright at expanding Hall of Science". Newsday. p. G06
- ALT1: ... that before becoming the New York Hall of Science's director, the physicist Alan J. Friedman walked through water to be interviewed for that position? Source: MacGowan, Carl (May 9, 2004). "1 museum $68M = Science City, Thanks to Alan Friedman, the future is bright at expanding Hall of Science". Newsday. p. G06
- ALT2: ... that a nuclear reactor was nearly built at the New York Hall of Science, but the money for the institution instead went to the Yankee Stadium? Source: Mehdi, Anisa (May 9, 1982). "A 2d chance for Hall of Science". New York Daily News. p. 381.
- ALT3: ... that after the New York Hall of Science was renovated in the 1980s, all but three employees were fired? Source: MacGowan, Carl (May 9, 2004). "1 museum $68M = Science City, Thanks to Alan Friedman, the future is bright at expanding Hall of Science". Newsday. p. G06
- ALT4: ... that for four decades, staff at the New York Hall of Science believed that a genuine Project Mercury space capsule there was a replica? Source: Burby, Liza N. (November 22, 2004). "New exhibits, inside and out". Newsday. p. 74.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Church of St Peter, Draycott
- Comment: More hooks later
Epicgenius (talk) 19:16, 7 September 2024 (UTC).
Victor Albisu
- ... that chef Victor Albisu (pictured) created a bulgogi taco honoring the Koreatown neighborhood of his hometown of Annandale, Virginia?
- Sources:
- "Albisu, who grew up in nearby Annandale" ARLnow
- "Bulgogi Bullfight taco pays tribute to Annandale's Koreatown with bulgogi-style pork and Brussels-sprout kimchee." Washingtonian
Innisfree987 (talk) 07:26, 7 September 2024 (UTC).
Interesting hook but slight problems that could be resolved before I can complete a final confirmation for it to be approved for DYK. In the hook, it mentions "lbisu created a bulgogi taco honoring the Koreatown neighborhood of his hometown of Annandale, Virginia". But in the article, it states Washingtonian magazine described the Vienna menu as a “love letter to Northern Virginia”, with a “7 Corners Shrimp” taco honoring Eden Center’s hub of Vietnamese restaurants and “Bulgogi Bullfight” drawing on Annandale’s Koreatown neighborhood. Could you edit the article to state the hook directly so that the viewers can easily view and understand it? (eg.Albisu created the “Bulgogi Bullfight”, a taco which honored the Koreatown neighborhood of his hometown of Annandale, Virginia.) Other than that, all else is good. - Toadboy123 (talk) 14:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Abraham Hamadeh
- ... that Abraham Hamadeh lost one of the closest elections in Arizona history by 280 votes, and has filed multiple lawsuits challenging the results?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: My first DYK nomination, I'm confident I did this right but I'm still welcome to suggestions!
DukeOfDelTaco (talk) 05:45, 7 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 8
[edit]Tore Skeie
- ... that Tore Skeie's first book, written while he faced severe financial hardship, won him a prize of NKO 100,000?
- ALT1: ... that a critic wrote that Tore Skeie's third book had the "energy of an epic television show"? Source: [32]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Sr.
Kimikel (talk) 00:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
Spearfishing at the Micronesian Games
- ... that spearfishing at the Micronesian Games in 2014 was controversial because a fish that was caught was mutilated by a shark?
Sahaib (talk) 18:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC).
QPQ needed @Sahaib:. Also, assuming "websites.mygameday.app" is reliable, proposing ALT1: ... that a shark cost a competitor a silver medal in the spearfishing event at the 2014 Micronesian Games?--Launchballer 19:05, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: QPQ done, also source appears to be reliable as it cites Alana Christensen of "United Youth Media" and has a picture. Sahaib (talk) 19:20, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Full review needed.--Launchballer 19:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Baguia Fort
- ... that a fort in Baguia was restored in order to turn it into a hotel? Source: page 71
- ALT1: ... that orange trees once located in front ofa fort in East Timor were only for the use of the ruling Portuguese? Source: page 314
- ALT2: ... that a fort in Baguia saw an engagement during the 1959 Viqueque rebellion that resulted in no casualties? Source: page 32
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Serekunda
- Comment: Other hook ideas welcome!
CMD (talk) 11:26, 8 September 2024 (UTC).
Jewish dairy restaurant
- ... that Trotsky frequented a Jewish dairy restaurant in the Bronx but refused to tip, and waiters retaliated by burning him with hot soup?
- Reviewed:
Andre🚐 09:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 9
[edit]Funnyback
- ... that people referred to the 1928 US$1 dollar silver certificate as a Funnyback (pictured)?
- ALT1: ... that America's first small-size silver certificate was referred to as a Funnyback (pictured)? Source: Same or other in article
- ALT2: ... that the 1928 US$1 note was 25% smaller than the previous $1 note but people thought the reverse was funny (pictured)? Source: a 25% reduction in size (6.14″ x 2.61″) and ... Who actually coined the nickname “Funnyback” about the mismatched face and back designs may never be pinpointed.
- ALT3: ... that the Funnyback (pictured) was the first first small-size silver certificate issued by the United States? Source: First small note
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Georgi Romanov
- Comment: I will likely continue to develop parts of this article. Edit: there are other images as well that are square like this one File:US-$1-SC-1928-E-Fr.1605.jpg
Bruxton (talk) 21:59, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
Catharina Weiss
- ... that Catharina Weiss (pictured) used to play for Chocolate? Source: https://www.cannstatter-zeitung.de/inhalt.die-18-jaehrige-rollstuhlbasketballerin-gewann-im-sommer-wm-bronze-catharina-weiss-s-grosser-wurf.8363bb42-1597-463c-85fb-79e8baa49aae.html
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:22, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
- Intriguing hook, although the only mention in the article for chocolate is "the Rolling Chocolate in Heidelburg", which a) isn't the same thing unless you have another source saying they're sometimes called that for short and b) lacks an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 20:29, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Alison Creagh
- ... that Alison Creagh (pictured) became a Member of the Order of Australia "for significant service to veterans and their families, and to rowing"? Source: https://www.gg.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-07/QB20%20Gazette%20-%20O%20of%20A%20V6.pdf
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
Santa (singer)
![Santa sings Vivre pour le Meilleur](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/2024_Summer_Paralympics_closing_ceremony_Santa.jpg/146px-2024_Summer_Paralympics_closing_ceremony_Santa.jpg)
- ... that Santa (pictured) opened the 2024 Summer Paralympics closing ceremony? Source: https://olympics.com/en/news/paralympic-games-paris-2024-closing-ceremony-music-flame
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:04, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
David de Pomis
- ... that David de Pomis published a trilingual Hebrew-Aramaic, Latin, and Italian dictionary in 1587?
Andre🚐 01:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
Middlesex Regiment alien labour units
- ... that during the First World War the British army deployed companies of aliens to France?
- Source: Although all eight were described as "Alien" companies, the originals were formed from the sons of foreign nationals, however from 1918 actual foreign nationals were used to form three companies , see eg: "the Director of Labour in France was informed that all Russians and other aliens whom 'it was not desirable to retain with fighting units' were to be sent to the Middlesex Regiment base depot at Etaples. Apart from the Russians, they were to be posted to the Middlesex Infantry Labour Companies ... This enabled three more Middlesex Labour companies to be formed." from: Messenger, Charles (30 April 2015). Call to Arms: The British Army 1914-18. Orion. p. 121. ISBN 978-1-78022-759-7.
- ALT1: ... that during the First World War "the queerest battalion in the British Army" did no fighting? Source: "Only in September 1916 did one of the battalions (perhaps in ignorance of the second) become the focus of sarcastic press attention. Headlined 'The Kaiser's Own', the London Evening Standard ran an article about the 'Queerest Battalion in the British Army'" from: Emden, Richard van (15 August 2013). Meeting the Enemy: The Human Face of the Great War. A&C Black. pp. 246–249. ISBN 978-1-4088-3981-2. and "This unit is not a combatant unit" from: "Middlesex Regiment, 30th Battalion : Volume 91: debated on Thursday 8 March 1917". Hansard. Retrieved 26 August 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ivan Palmaw
Dumelow (talk) 11:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 10
[edit]Pituamkek National Park Reserve
- ... that Pituamkek National Park Reserve is Canada's newest national park, protecting a chain of barrier islands used for fishing and hunting by the Mi'kmaq for 4,000 years?
- Source: Kristmanson, Helen. "Pitawelkek: A 2000-Year-Old Archaeological Site in Malpeque Bay". Island Magazine (84). PEI Museum & Heritage Foundation: 2–14 – via Island Archives, University of Prince Edward Island.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: PEIsquirrel is my alt. I don't know why the template is saying 0 past nominations (maybe I used my alt? I have 5 according to my user page) but QPQ should be required. I'll take care of that shortly.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:42, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
Michael Kettle
- ... that at the age of 80, Michael Kettle received an award for his work as a cricket groundskeeper?
- Source: "Mickleover Cricket Club's Mike Kettle, 80 and Alan Hancock, 81, will receive the Cricket World Magazine's Groundcare Lifetime Achievement award on 9 September, at Lord's Cricket Ground" from: "Mickleover groundsmen receive trip to Lord's for lifetime award". BBC News. 9 September 2024. Retrieved 10 September 2024.
Dumelow (talk) 17:17, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
Reviewing... may take me a day Bruxton (talk) 20:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Margaret Reid (politician)
- ... that Margaret Reid was appointed to the Australian Senate 20 years after losing an election for the House of Representatives?
- Source: Valedictory speech at Parliament of Australia "The opportunity for me to become a senator ... I was appointed to this job at a joint sitting of the two houses of the federal parliament on 5 May 1981" and "Senator Reid has confidence in 'thriving city' " at Canberra Times "In 1961, she conducted her first electoral campaign, as the Liberal candidate for the Federal seat of Bonython, in South Australia." and 1961 legislative election results at Adam Carr's archive
Reidgreg (talk) 12:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
Abdur Rahman Mahmudi
- ... that imprisoned Afghan politician Abdur Rahman Mahmudi (pictured) would write poems using onion juice as ink in his jail cell?
- Source: Louis Dupree. Red Flag Over Hindu Kush: Leftist movements in Afghanistan. AUFS, 1979. p. 17
Soman (talk) 10:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
KAUT-TV
- ... that an Oklahoma TV station returned to its original call sign after the death of its founder, Gene Autry? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20230906162655/https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1998/12/06/kpsg-memorializing-gene-autry-with-movie-serial-name-change/62259992007/
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:32, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
Hugh Bunel
- ... that after murdering Mabel de Bellême in France, Hugh Bunel went into exile for almost 20 years, serving with the Byzantine emperor and the Saracen army before joining Robert Curthose on crusade?
- Source: "Hugh Bunel, who murdered Mabel of Bellême, found himself pursued for years. Orderic tells us that Hugh fled first to Apulia, then to Sicily, and from there to the service of the Byzantine emperor Alexios Comnenos. But wherever Hugh went he was pursued by the threats and bribes of King William and Mabel's sons, who 'promised rewards and gifts to any spies who could kill the exiled assassin in whatever land they might find him', And so Hugh left Christendom altogether and lived among the Saracens for twenty years until, during the First Crusade, he appeared before Robert Curthose at the siege of Jerusalem and offered him his help and service in counsel and battle." from: Hagger, Mark S. (2017). Norman Rule in Normandy, 911-1144. Boydell & Brewer. p. 450. ISBN 978-1-78327-214-3.
- ALT1: ... that Norman warrior Hugh Bunel lived for years among the Saracens before turning against them to join the First Crusade? Source: as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Café Adria
Dumelow (talk) 07:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 11
[edit]Johannesteijsmannia lanceolata
- Source: "The leaves of this palm are used by the local indigenous people for making roof thatch. However, this is quite rare now and only occurs during a celebration feast (Chan & Saw, 2009)." "Johannesteijsmannia lanceolata is an endemic species and is known locally in Selangor and Negeri Sembilan as Slender Joey Palm or chica in Malay" Tan, Kok Kiat; Lee, Su See (31 May 2020). "Johannesteijsmannia lanceolata J. Dransf". Malaysia Biodiversity Information System. Malaysia Biodiversity Centre. Retrieved 11 September 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/TBD
- Comment: Tan and Lee refer to kenduri as a "celebration feast", Yoke Mui Chan identifies this specifically as kenduri in the table provided (citation 2 for this nomination). Thank you in advance to the reviewer for their time, I will provide a QPQ hopefully later today.
Ornithoptera (talk) 21:22, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
Pabhāvatī
- ... that the beauty of Princess Pabhāvatī was said to light up seven chambers, making lamps unnecessary? Source: Naing, Aung Min (2018). "ရတနာပုံဆရာဥ၏ မင်းကုသကွက်စိပ်" (PDF). Myanmar Academy of Arts and Science. XVI.
- Reviewed:
Hteiktinhein (talk) 11:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
Shin Iza Gawna
- ... that after obtaining the philosopher's stone, the monk Shin Iza Gawna caused gold and silver to rain down in Pagan, bringing great wealth to his followers? Source: https://news-eleven.com/article/292466
- Reviewed:
Hteiktinhein (talk) 09:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
Dookie
- ... that Green Day's most popular song "Basket Case" was originally written as a ballad song?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The original was alright but it did deserve the change.
ThaFDA (talk) 04:13, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
Hi ThaFDA, the article you name in the nomination template is Dookie but the song mentioned has its own article at Basket Case (song). I've looked at both and neither are new or have been recently significantly expanded. The requirement for content at DYK to be new is at Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Guidelines#Newness. Could you advise on this, or if I've misinterpreted which article you are nominating? - Dumelow (talk) 06:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Lisa Blatt
- ... that Lisa Blatt is the first woman to argue 50 cases in the US Supreme Court—over 80% of them wins—and that she "elicits laughs and the occasional sharp response from the justices"?
- Source: AP News
- Reviewed:
SilverLocust 💬 00:51, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
Special occasion holding area
[edit]The holding area is near the top of the Approved page. Please only place approved templates there; do not place them below.
- Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section above, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began; indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
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