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Architecture of Denmark

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This article contains multiple unsourced statements, including entire paragraphs. It also does not contain much information from 2012-present. Z1720 (talk) 00:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I accept these shortcomings but find that overall the article still presents an informative, well-illustrated overview of the history of Danish architecture, Further to the discussions on my talk page, in collaboration with Ramblersen2 I will try to add missing in-line references and update the section on "Contemporary period".--Ipigott (talk) 10:01, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Z1720: I think we have completed work on updating this article and adding in-line references throughout. I am not too sure of the reassessment process but if you are happy with the present quality of the article, perhaps you can withdraw your request. Otherwise we'll just have to wait for wider approval.--Ipigott (talk) 10:42, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ipigott: This article needs a copyedit. Upon a quick skim, I found numerous grammatical mistakes, particularly with full stops used in the middle of lists instead of commas. Can someone do a complete copyedit of the article to fix these concerns? Z1720 (talk) 01:41, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's also numerous sources listed in "Further reading": can these be used as inline citations, or should they be removed? Z1720 (talk) 01:42, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Z1720, for expressing further concerns. I'm afraid I could not find numerous grammatical errors in the body of the text but in accordance with your suggestion, I have "conducted a complete copy edit" which has resulted in one or two minor changes. As for "Further reading", I agree some of the items needed to be deleted. It would, however, not be easy to include those remaining as inline references without acquiring the works and identifying relevant page numbers. Those which have been maintained identify professionally prepared works in line with Wikipedia:Further reading. I have added ISBN references to the others to facilitate identification. I have also deleted one of the items in "External links" as it was no longer accessible. In my opinion, the other two should be maintained. If you can identify any other shortcomings, please let me know. Thanks to your interest, substantial improvements have now been made to the article.--Ipigott (talk) 10:59, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There were many comments that I felt were outside of NPOV. I have posted most of them below:

"The houses are deemed to be among the most sophisticated dwellings of their time." Can being sophisticated be measured? If not, who has deemed this architecture significant?
"Among the finest examples of brick Romanesque buildings" How can something be the finest example? What makes something "fine"? Is there a better, more objective adjective that can be used?
"In Copenhagen, Rosenborg Castle (1606–24) and Børsen or the former stock exchange (1640) are perhaps the city's most remarkable Renaissance buildings." What makes a building remarkable? How is this measured, or if it is an opinionated statement, who is stating this?
"It is widely recognized as one of Europe's most outstanding Renaissance castles" Who has recognised it in this way?
"Particularly impressive is the Church of the Trinity (1618–28) designed by Flemish-Danish architect Lorenz van Steenwinckel. It is said to be Scandinavia's finest example of a Renaissance church." Why is it impressive? Who said it is Scandinavia's finest example of a Renaissance church?

I stopped at the middle of Renaissance, but based on what I read I think there are a lot of opinionated statements written in Wikivoice that need to be better defined or attributed in the text to experts. Z1720 (talk) 20:27, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Z1720: I must say I am becoming increasingly confused about the reassessment process. I fail to see why we should undertake a complete reassessment of the article, including passages which were considered acceptable in the original GA assessment. Apart from your own views, did anyone else support reassessment of the article? And how can the current status of the article be supported?--Ipigott (talk) 15:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ipigott: One editor is allowed to initiate the reassessment process, and any editor may post their thoughts about the article during the reassessment. Editors can also disagree with the original assessment, as I have apparently done here; initiating a reassessment is one way to have those concerns addressed. The good article criteria and various Wikipedia policies/guidelines have changed and been better defined since this article passed its GAN (as an example, a couple weeks ago WP:LEAD changed their requirements away from having leads be a maximum of 4 paragraphs, and now allow more leeway.) I look at an article's adherence to the GA criteria as written in 2024 and post comments when I notice them, which is not always on the first readthrough. If editors disagree with my comments, I am happy to discuss. Z1720 (talk) 15:44, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]