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Paul Gibbs (darts player)

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Old, poorly referenced article. Couldn't find anything on a WP:BEFORE. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 22:12, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Angus Ross (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 23:30, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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Keep Will have coverage in Scottish newspapers. Competed foryears at the top level of his sport, even if he wasn't successful.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete. If there are sources in Scotland, then at least one containing IRS SIGCOV must be added to the article for this to be kept. Vaguewaving at sources is not a valid option. JoelleJay (talk) 20:31, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

I have referenced a number of sources below from searching the Google Newspapers archive. In response to your staterment that they must be added to the article for this to be kept I think WP:NEXIST gives a different impression, particularly Notability requires only that suitable independent, reliable sources exist in the real world; it does not require their immediate presence or citation in an article. I do not take this to mean that the sources should be currently in the article for us to vote Keep, since the sources do exist. Brocade River Poems (She/They) 00:24, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Keep. There's a trophy named after him [1] as well as Newspaper coverage that does infact exist if we do due diligence [2][3][4][5] Including being a headline [6][7] and was referred to as "the greatest darts player come from the north of Scotland" at his death [8][9], so he is infact referenced in Scottish newspapers. --Brocade River Poems (She/They) 00:17, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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MeJew movement

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Another AI-generated hoax by User:Jeaucques Quœure. #MeJew was a Sundance Film Festival panel and does not appear to be an actual movement or awareness campaign. Flounder fillet (talk) 20:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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UEFA Women's Futsal Euro 2025

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The term "UEFA Women's Futsal Euro 2025" was never officially used to designate the qualifiers, so the page should be deleted. Redirecting it could cause confusion, as it might imply that the 2025 edition refers to the qualifiers, which is incorrect.

Therefore, I believe the page redirect should be deleted.

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Procedural keep - should be discussed at WP:RfD Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:24, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Monolith Arms P-12

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Non-notable one off prototype of a gun; I can't find any coverage that meets GNG criteria, and the only sources are blog or forum posts. CoconutOctopus talk 20:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Vels FC

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Fails WP:GNG, shows no evidence of WP:SIGCOV. Demt1298 (talk) 19:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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SugarGh0st RAT

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Fails WP:GNG. All the references are not reliable. Ibjaja055 (talk) 16:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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Notice: I have added more references Arwenz (talk) 19:43, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Weak Keep It seems like enough of the references check out, but I think more references and content are needed. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 19:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Najma Thabsheera

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Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG TheWikiholic (talk) 14:16, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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Keep WP:GNG Pass , has reliable sources, she is a national level women leader - Spworld2 (talk) 11:48, 18 October 2024 (UTC)— Note to closing admin: Spworld2 (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD.

The subject’s role as the national vice president of a state-level political party’s youth wing does not automatically meet the notability guidelines under WP:POL, regardless of gender. Furthermore, the available coverage primarily focuses on routine updates about her new positions within the party, which is typical for politicians and thus does not fulfill the criteria for WP:GNG. TheWikiholic (talk) 18:12, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

It is not a youth movement of a single party in a state but exists in more than one state [10][11] . Spworld2 (talk) 04:52, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete does not pass WP:NPOL. Mccapra (talk) 21:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Can be considered in WP:GNG category, Spworld2 (talk) 06:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Comment WP:GNG has abundant references proving it This article is a national level office older. Former office holder of Women's Youth Party, she was a former office holder at the national level of an important student movement in Kerala. All these can be considered in the WP:POLITICIAN category as a reference basis. Reference: [12] (The New Indian Express), [13] (Mathrubhumi), [14]] (The New Indian Express)

, [15] (Malayala Manorama). A article who is popular in Kerala as a Muslim woman has won the award. Also a well-known Muslim feminist in Kerala [16] [17][18]. She can be considered as an Advocate/Lawyer, she is one of the women lawyers in Kerala High Court [19] Office holder at Municipality / Taluk level [20] Reference [21] , [22] (The Hindu) and she can be considered Women in positions of power [23] [24] Influencer (Muslim women political influencer) in Kerala [25] [26] - Spworld2 (talk) 05:52, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Keep: We acknowledge that the subject does not fit within the politician category (WP:NPOL). However, it clearly meets the criteria for the WP:GNG. Jannatulbaqi (talk) 14:41, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete as not passing WP:NPOL. It’s Prima facie about an activist in her party with literally thousands of other people. Being the woman’s chair of a youth organization is the picture of up and coming political volunteer. Bearian (talk) 16:02, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
How did one in ten thousand become an office holder at the national level? There is a source for that, there is evidence of people voting and winning at the municipality/taluk level, so how can you be one in 10,000 as you say? My little doubt Spworld2 (talk) 05:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete:Non notable activist who fails NPOL and GNG.202.83.51.246 (talk) 17:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
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San Andreas: The Original Mixtape

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Both of the references in the article are dead links, and the most significant coverage I was able to find is in an article by Pitchfork ([27]) which has some sentences about the mixtape. Other than that, I was only able to find mentions such as [28]. A possible alternative to deletion is a redirect to Young Maylay. toweli (talk) 18:17, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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La Helvecia sawmill

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Fails WP:notability and verifiability – a search on google did not give any results about this sawmill (except some photographs uploaded to Commons by the creator of this article). I could not find any mention to this sawmill on San Fernando websites either. The article contains only one proper source. Fma12 (talk) 18:54, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

It could be redirected to San Fernando, Buenos Aires, Fma12 (talk) 19:23, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

The "proper source" is shown on Wikimedia Commons, and it is sufficiently detailed, to keep the article. Pedro Tamagni is mentioned in the lower half of the right column on page 2376 of the Boletín . La Helvecia, owned by Pedro Tamagni, was among the three most important sawmills. NearEMPTiness (talk) 21:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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UAE Retail Benchmarking Study 2009

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I do not see enough notability.-- فيصل (talk) 18:54, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Pilot major

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This stub has remained unsourced since 2013 and has remained a WP:DICDEF. A Google Books search finds several works that mention that such and such person was a "pilot-major" of an early modern European trade or exploration fleet, but no work defining or describing this title or occupation, which means that there is no basis for an encyclopedia article. Sandstein 14:31, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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~~Weak~~ keep. I've added a list of pilots major. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Which is also unsourced, and therefore does not resolve the WP:V and WP:N issues of this article. It also conflates real persons and fictional characters. Sandstein 06:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Sources and additional info added. Clarityfiend (talk) 13:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, but I still don't see the basis for an article here. The lead sentences, which purport to define the topic, remain unsourced: "A pilot major or pilot-major is a chief navigator of a ship or fleet. This person is usually experienced in naval exploration and has distinguished himself as both a sailor and a voyager." What you did find a source for was the use of the same term in Spain for something different, namely, a government office with responsibility for cartography. What we now have is a list of people with a position we cannot define, and a description of an unrelated government office. That's not an article. Sandstein 13:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

The sources disagree with you; they call various non-officeholders pilots major. (Also, put the asterisk last after colons, otherwise it serves no purpose.) Clarityfiend (talk) 22:32, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Update. I have split off info to Pilot Major of Spain. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:27, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, the spinoff for the government office makes sense and seems to be reasonably well sourced. But this still leaves us with a stub about the different sense of "pilot-major" as the "chief navigator of a ship or fleet", and we do not have a source for this meaning of the term, only a list of people who have been called "pilot-major" in sources. Sandstein 07:23, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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The Seafood Bar

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This is a minor chain of restaurants that fails to meet WP:NCORP. There are some restaurant reviews online, but no WP:SIGCOV, no evidence of awards won, or similar notable coverage. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 14:27, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Comment Their website has a press section[29] which includes a detailed Guardian review and a link to a paywalled Financial Times review which I'm unable to judge the value of. It's got mentions in the London Evening Standard[30] and Amsterdam Mag/Amsterdam Now[31] but not in depth. Coverage in The Caterer magazine[32], a long-running publication. The generic name makes searching harder. I'm unable to check Dutch-language sources, but the lack of a page on Dutch-language WP is a red flag. But close to notable? --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:49, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Comment: Links to The Guardian review [33] and Financial Times review [34]. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:00, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Keep I am attaching more significant sources which are not included in the article, [35], [36], [37], [38]. In WP:PAYWALL, it says "Do not reject reliable sources just because they are difficult or costly to access." I believe that instead of completely rejecting those sources we should seek help from Resource Exchange. - Snubvane (talk) 19:19, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

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Wasta Faruq Kanarwey

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BLP of a Kurdish veteran, largely unsourced, lacking any clear indication of notability and based on related sources. Kurdish speakers may be able to find better sources. Mccapra (talk) 18:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Perky Little Things

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There is no significant coverage from reliable sources for this game. Wombat Trap is a blog. Nintenderos, Nintendo Insider, and GoNintendo are unreliable sources reporting (mostly republishing) on the game's release. TheVideoGameLibrary and Kotaku entries are database sources that do not amount to significant coverage. The PlayAsia article is a primary press release. QuietCicada chirp 18:19, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete Per nom, fails WP:GNG. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Joy Deep as Sorrow

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A former redirect that's been reverted back into an article. I tried a WP:BEFORE search, but got a page full of lists of the songs on the album. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 18:07, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Newark Venture Partners

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The article is basically nothing but advertising copy and will need to be line-by-line rewritten if it is to be retained. Additionally, leaving aside press releases, I can find very little coverage of it in anything that could be called a reliable source. It gets passing mentions in articles about the NJ venture capital sector and reports on funding rounds in which it has participated, but actual focused coverage is very thin on the ground. Where it does exist, it tends to be puff pieces (often more about one of its partners than about the company itself (Example 1, Example 2)) or just short rephrasing of press releases by industry sites (E1, E2). These six links, by the way, constitute almost everything I could find on Google News about this company.

So from a combo of WP:TNT and dubious notability, I suggest deletion. AntiDionysius (talk) 17:57, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Natasha Mealey

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Fails WP:GNG, no evidence of WP:SIGCOV Demt1298 (talk) 17:56, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Support - 'Your search - "Natasha Mealey" -wikipedia - did not match any news results.' - Google concurs about the lack of notability. --AntiDionysius (talk) 18:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
I get some hits. But the top three are Facebook, Instagram and Linkedin. Geschichte (talk) 21:17, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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Valery Zhakov

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Retired Russian actor. WP:NACTOR significance is shown. The article was removed from Russian Wikipedia [39].--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 15:54, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. This stub is nearly incomprehensible and seems merely to mention random facts from his career. It would be better to delete, and if this person is notable, then someone will eventually write an article about him on Russian Wikipedia, which then could be translated. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Maple Leaf (album)

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Not demonstrate the significance of the album. Option: redirect to Valery Leontiev.--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 15:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Uvolit Zhoru

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The correspondence between WP:MOVIE is not shown and is extremely doubtful.--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 15:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Peter Fitz

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No significance was found for WP:NACTOR in the article.--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 15:28, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Strong Keep This is a well-known actor in Germany, with a long career in film and television, and I see no strong reason to delete his page. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 16:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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Do Not Forget Me

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Not demonstrate the significance of the song. Option: redirect to Valery Leontiev. --Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 15:33, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Centre de documentation collégiale

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG, a WP:BEFORE search shows up primary sources, database entries and unreliable sources. CSD A7 objected as the subject "potentially comes under Educational Institutes" Lavalizard101 (talk) 15:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Zoé Kézako

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Almost completely unsourced, heavily POV article. BEFORE showed no reviews or news. From what I can find, subject does not meet GNG. StartGrammarTime (talk) 15:14, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Keep: http://www.planete-jeunesse.com/fiche-1529-zoe-kezako.html; also significant mentions here: https://www.animationmagazine.net/2021/12/people-on-the-move-teamtos-kouper-named-personality-of-the-year-milano-heads-rai-kids-more/ ("winner of the 2004 Pulcinella Award at Cartoons on the Bay and an Emmy nominee") (Emmy nomination as Best international Children's program confirmed by other sources). If judged insufficient, redirect to List of French animated television series#Comedy (listed there; with the nomination information and sources) (Also is a book series; same title) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Avadh Girls' Degree College, Lucknow

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No WP:SIGCOV sources were found. I propose redirecting to University of Lucknow per WP:ATD, as the article fails to meet WP:NSCHOOL. GrabUp - Talk 15:11, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Sri Jai Narain Misra PG College

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No WP:SIGCOV sources were found. I propose redirecting to University of Lucknow per WP:ATD, as the article fails to meet WP:NSCHOOL. GrabUp - Talk 15:08, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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National P.G. College

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No WP:SIGCOV sources were found. I propose redirecting to University of Lucknow per WP:ATD, as the article fails to meet WP:NSCHOOL. GrabUp - Talk 15:06, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Redirect to University of Lucknow no significant coverage and The Times of India is not a relaible source. Theroadislong (talk) 15:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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TVJ Singing Queens

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I'm doubtful in this article, it is lack of references fails in WP:BANDMEMBER, citing a unreliable sources fails in WP:RS or can Redirect to Eat Bulaga since this article have high related on this topic. Royiswariii Talk! 15:05, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Osvaldinho (footballer, born 1945)

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No sign of notability. Allan Nonymous (talk) 15:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Weak keep – There are some online sources [40], [41], and considering the period and number of matches, there must be more offline. Svartner (talk) 15:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
This isn't really enough to meet WP:GNG and arguing WP:TMBS here feels pretty weak, especially since one of the sources is somebody's substack. Allan Nonymous (talk) 18:47, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
For players from the 60s-80s in major European leagues, it is inevitable that there is nothing in local newspapers and compendiums. Svartner (talk) 18:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Inevitable that there is something, probably? Geschichte (talk) 21:19, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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Battle of Sebiba

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Fails WP:GNG and poorly sourced. The article was deleted last week and recreated by the same editor with some minor cosmetic changes (image in the infobox). M.Bitton (talk) 14:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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8 Clearwater Bay Road

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I proposed this for deletion with the reason "None of the sources are reliable, independent sources giving significant attention to this building. Databases, sources from companies related to the building, an apartment for sale... are not the sources needed to create an article on the apparently 3033rd highest building in the world. Are there indepth, non-routine, independent sources about this building? Its architecture, controversies, archaeological finds during construction, anything?"

Since then, the poorest sources have been removed, but nothing was done about the fundamental issues. If there is only routine coverage, unreliable sources, and database entries for this building, then it shouldn't have an article. Fram (talk) 14:43, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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My vote is keep as of now. I'm seeing that you're probably concerned about the WP:TOOSOON criteria in this case. However, the article proposed for deletion can be expanded by other users in time. There is no need to tag it with a deletion notice yet. Other Hong Kong building articles such as Sino Plaza and The Westpoint can freely function as stubs when they are based on the same type of primarily database references until additional citations are found. Maybe the

type of tag is more fit in this situation. JeyReydar97 (talk) 15:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was redirect‎ to Somali literature without prejudice against a selective merge. Owen× ☎ 13:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Somali Corpus

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No secondary source given for notability. A WP:BEFORE on Google Scholar gives this article that uses the corpus and gives a description of it. Otherwise, I can only find a passing mention and this article, which uses the corpus but doesn't go in-depth about it. It doesn't look like WP:GNG is met, although I am open to changing my mind if more sources come to light.

Noting that the original author has declared a COI with the subject. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:01, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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This was a pretty rudimentary stub. Now, a number of sources have been added that discuss the importance of such corpora of under-resourced languages, and of Somali resources in particular. Links have been added to this page. The lead has also been cleaned up to clarify what a corpus is and where Somali is spoken. LingLass (talk) 17:00, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi! The issue wasn't about the lack of information or context in the lead, or about whether such corpora are important. To meet WP:GNG, sources should go in-depth about this specific corpus in particular, not about corpora in general. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Maybe a better solution would be to move this to a page about Somali corpora in general, rather than focusing on this corpus in particular. I feel like there are now a number of other corpora for this language that together have some deeper coverage in the literature.LingLass (talk) 19:54, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

That could indeed work! |Chaotic Enby]] (talk · contribs) 20:47, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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I would tend to agree with LingLass about changing the scope of this page to Somali corpora in general as an alternative to deletion, which would be most likely to meet WP:GNG. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Navyug Kanya Mahavidyalaya

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Reverted redirect. A WP:BEFORE search reveals sources about the University of Lucknow. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 13:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Redirect to University of Lucknow: Your redirect was correct. No significant coverage in reliable secondary sources has been found to establish this college as notable enough for a standalone article. It fails WP:NSCHOOL, so it’s better to redirect per WP:ATD. GrabUp - Talk 13:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
There many article on Wikipedia article who cannot standalone but they are R. P. Rastogi, Girish Chandra Tripathi, like these are many as these you cannot delete this than as a matter of fact this page can be created bcz it has university has many afflliated college then please delete too Mahila Maha Vidyalaya. they also No significant coverage in this as they are not notable enough for a standalone article. Raghav 1048 (talk) 13:47, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
@Raghav 1048: Please don’t use WP:WHATABOUT arguments. If you believe a page fails our notability guidelines, you are free to nominate it for AfD; there is no restriction on doing so. There might be thousands of pages that don’t meet the standards for stand-alone articles, but they remain here because no one has nominated them. GrabUp - Talk 14:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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Jade Sotomayor

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No claim to notability; I redirected this to RuPaul's Drag Race season 1 but was reverted. Seeking wider consensus. TheLongTone (talk) 13:11, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Keep per GNG. I appreciate User:MiitomoChris's attempt to expand this article about one of the few RuPaul's Drag Race contestants without a Wikipedia biography. I have expanded the article significantly based on simple online searches, and I can tell there is much more to add. As someone who has promoted several bios about Drag Race contestants to Good article status, I am satisfied with the amount of secondary coverage received and believe eligibility criteria are met. There's coverage spanning over a decade in a variety of publications, including multiple articles specifically focused on the subject. I see details about the subject's acting/entertainment work both in and out of drag, not to mention many updates about their drag career and impact as a season 1 contestant within a tremendously successful television franchise. The current article has just a couple sentences about her time on Drag Race. This entry needs expanding, not deletion. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:11, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Weber-Maxwell electrodynamics

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Page created by a new editor which was accepted at AfC in good faith by a reviewer who it appears does not have an extensive background in the science area. Following a brief discussion on the talk page, there are Toosoon, Notability, OR, NPOV and Dubious issues. Some more information added to AfD page. Ldm1954 (talk) 12:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Curtesy ping of @Johnjbarton, RangersRus, Jähmefyysikko, ReyHahn, and Cadaik:. As nominator I think there are multiple issues:

WP:TOOSOON, the article is based upon a 2023 paper and a 2024 paper, where the 2024 paper is the only one that cites the 2023 paper.
WP:N general lack of other sources to indicate that the neolism is notable.
WP:OR large sections of the page are unsourced and appear to be original research by the editor.
WP:NPOV page suggests that the approach is only relevant for low speeds, but fails to mention other issues. To quote from the abstract of the first source "Furthermore, the article shows that the modern formulation of Weber electrodynamics is clearly superior to standard electrodynamics in electrical engineering, because it not only eliminates internal contradictions, but also represents considerable simplification and compression." These hidden claims go far beyond what the text reveals.
WP:DUBIOUS without being specific, the article models diffraction from an edge and two slits without stating that it is giving a new, unsourced interpretation of the classic wave–particle duality. This is stated more clearly at the end of the open source code referenced in the page " It is plausible to assume that such real classical forces might be the true cause of all quantum effects. For more on this topic, see https://doi.org/10.36227/techrxiv.23055584.v2". Wikipedia is not the place for such hidden claims. Ldm1954 (talk) 12:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

@Ldm1954: Please remain objective. It is not relevant what you personally believes. There are convincing, comprehensible and unconcealed facts, evidence and simulation results.

I would now like to address the various points:

WP:TOOSOON / WP:N: The two aspects are connected and cannot be denied. I have read the guidelines and it is true that it is too early for a self-standing article. I therefore suggest a merge into Weber electrodynamics.
WP:NPOV "Furthermore, the article shows that the modern formulation of Weber electrodynamics is clearly superior to standard electrodynamics in electrical engineering, because it not only eliminates internal contradictions, but also represents considerable simplification and compression." The citation is from the abstract of one of the cited articles, which was published in a scientific journal and was apparently considered appropriate by the reviewers and the editors. This text cannot be found in the Wikipedia article. Where is neutrality violated when a source is cited?
WP:OR: "large sections of the page are unsourced and appear to be original research by the editor." This should be explained in more detail.
WP:DUBIOUS: Your raised objections do not refer to the Wikipedia page. The Wikipedia page shows examples of interference and diffraction from a classical point of view, where an electromagnetic wave is emitted by a dipole antenna and then reflected by a barrier of secondary dipoles. This is a common model. The source code is publicly available and cited. The preprint which you mention is not cited on the Wikipedia page and can be found only at the very end on https://github.com/StKuehn/OpenWME. The preprint is there only linked as an interesting side note. Specifically, the website says "... this example exceeds the usual field of application of electrical engineering considerably. It is an interesting by-product which arose during the development ..." The vast majority of the examples on https://github.com/StKuehn/OpenWME verify the predictions of Weber-Maxwell electrodynamics by means of known classical effects. This ensures that not only the theoretical derivation is correct (this is performed by mathematical proofs), but also that the practical results are convincing.

Cadaik (talk) 14:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete and WP:DRAFTIFY: this page is about a couple of 2023/2024 papers which are barely cited, this is far from being WP:NOTABLE and indicates WP:RECENTISM or at least WP:TOOSOON for a Wikipedia article. No review article on the topics exists for the moment. I would suggest not merging with Weber electrodynamics as the topics seems to be unrelated and Weber–Maxwelll electrodynamics is not used in the literature to refer to Weber electrodynamics.--ReyHahn (talk) 15:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Merge We have many, many instances where a newish peer-reviewed primary source is cited in support of one aspect of a notable topic. However in such cases the amount and breadth of the content needs to be in proportion to the impact of the source which in this case is very limited. The actual impact is the only thing that matters, not the potential, truthfulness, wonderfulness etc. I don't think this topic is bogus though a brief look at the cited authors other work leads me to think they have limited background outside of computational EM. Therefore I don't expect this topic to grow into something significant. In any case I would encourage @Cadaik to contribute to existing articles with more focus on reviews and secondary sources to get a feel for Wikipedia-ness. Johnjbarton (talk) 16:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete due to the total lack of viable sources upon which an encyclopedia article could be built. None of the content is worth merging, for the same reason. Magnetism is an MDPI journal, meaning that it has no value. (Likewise, though of less importance here, the translations of historical sources are published by "Apeiron Montreal", a book imprint associated with a now-defunct fringe journal.) And to be polite, any claim like such real classical forces might be the true cause of all quantum effects faces a very steep hill to climb before it can be taken remotely seriously.XOR'easter (talk) 21:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Spring Financial

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Run-of-the-mill predatory/payday lender. "Reviews" are indiscriminate WP:SPIP with no meaningful content. Wikipedia is not the place to host brochures. No indication of any independent coverage, in-depth in reliable sources, in fact there's barely anything beyond the SPIP and the routine "I got predatory loaned to" that all of these have, which, while sad, are not great sources for encyclopedic content. Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete: Not really meeting CORP. There's the Global News article about someone that wasn't happy with their loan, and this [42] where someone with the company talks about their work model... Not really sigcov in either case. Rest are all PR links. Oaktree b (talk) 15:36, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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Keep Based on significant coverage that requires evaluation of the product, analysis, overview, survey, and commentary of the journalist and analysts, I found three long-reads by the leading Canadian newspaper, the Global News, which provide significant coverage per WP CORPDEPTH. [43] This one offers the journalist’s in-depth analysis of Spring Financial's business practices, focusing on their "secured savings loans" product. The coverage includes detailed descriptions of the terms and conditions of Spring Financial's loans, including specific details about interest rates (the journalist checked the contract and numbers shared by the unhappy client). It has a high level of evaluation and analysis. Here is a small part of the article with the reporters doing their job: The loan agreement reviewed by Global News does not provide for a so-called “cooling-off” period, a short period of time during which applicants are allowed to request that the contract they signed be voided. In British Columbia, where Canada Drives is based, such a provision is mandatory for payday lenders, which must allow borrowers to cancel a loan by the end of the next day in which they are open for business. There is also a professor at York University’s Osgoode Hall Law School, commenting on the issue. Of course the personal story is not important by itself, but it’s not a blog or someone interviewed, it’s a real journalistic job. Another two articles [44], [45] have also comprehensive coverage that goes beyond trivial mentions, providing a thorough description, evaluation, comparison with other companies, and analysis of Spring Financial's products and business practices.--RodrigoIPacce (talk) 12:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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Darren Johnson (darts player)

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non-notable darts player All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 08:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete: There is only one source and one external link referenced in the entire article, and both lead to a "404 Not Found" error. JustARandomEditor123 (talk) 11:01, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep: This article was poorly sourced indeed, unfortunately Darts Database website was shut down, hence those links do not work any more. More links and available references have been provided, this player was (and will be) participating in World Championships and major PDC tournaments, I do not think marking him non-notable is fair here. If anything needs to be improved, let me know. DarthBob (talk) 21:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
The article is still poorly sourced as none of the sources are significant coverage. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 21:57, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for your feedback. I understand the concern about the quality of the sources. However, the sources used in the article, while they may not provide in-depth or exclusive coverage, do offer reliable information and verifiable facts. I specifically chose sources from different websites that are currently available.

If you have suggestions for specific sources that offer more in-depth or significant coverage on this topic, I would be happy to consider incorporating them. DarthBob (talk) 19:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
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Please, see the response below: This article was poorly sourced indeed, unfortunately Darts Database website was shut down, hence those links do not work any more. More links and available references have been provided, this player was (and will be) participating in World Championships and major PDC tournaments, I do not think marking him non-notable is fair here. DarthBob (talk) 21:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete. The additional sources do not contain IRS SIGCOV and/or are routine (e.g. match recaps). Articles from PDC or WDF are not independent. We really want sources that provide SIGCOV of the player's background. JoelleJay (talk) 02:59, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

The article is better sourced and up to date than half of the Wikipedia pages now, it is basically impossible to find any old sources, since darts are a sport, whose media coverage improved only in last years. Darts is quite a simple sport, articles analysing a match throw by throw just does not exist. This seems yet again like an on-going battle against darts articles and profiles, even an effort to improve these articles is not welcomed and a valuable article marked to delete. DarthBob (talk) 19:25, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

If there isn't significant coverage of players in the past, then those players by definition are not notable. GNG requires sources with IRS SIGCOV, not just reliable sources. JoelleJay (talk) 01:52, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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Keep Indy Indie

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This is a substub which could in theory be merged/redirected to Economy of Indianapolis#Retail trade, but which doesn't appear to have sustained and independent sigcov to even justify that. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 11:00, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete I came across this a few weeks ago and thought the same. It's a local slogan, but there's little coverage of its usage. Reywas92^Talk 23:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete Nothing to indicate notability and given the lack of any content not worth merging.TheLongTone (talk) 13:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Holographic direct sound printing

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Article based upon a 1 month old paper. While it has minor attention in pop science press, its Altmetric of 76 is not particularly high (it would need 200-300). Page is almost completely promo of research from a single group at Concardia University. Considering how active additive manufacturing currently is, much much more is required. Wikipedia is not the place to promote your science. Ldm1954 (talk) 11:07, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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This is not my science. I found about this method of 3D printing in the newspapers and I thought it probably deserves to be mentioned at Wikipedia. Arwenz (talk) 19:25, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete Primary sources and churned press releases are not a suitable basis for an encyclopedia article. XOR'easter (talk) 00:16, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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Unsure - for me the difficulty is that this is WP:TOOSOON (yes I know that's an essay that's not about scientific research, it just seems appropriate) so we don't know how much lasting importance there is about this discovery. I think an argument can be made for !keep given it has been peer reviewed, !delete because it is really just a small number of scientists saying it is important or !draft on the basis it might soon be shown to be important. I'm not sure how to parse it. JMWt (talk) 13:47, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Comment: it is very, very rare to have articles just because they are reviewed, we require extensive secondary sources. TOOSOON is very commonly applied to scientific research. Ldm1954 (talk) 14:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Rouba

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BLP of a singer-songwriter, largely unsourced, who seems to have turned their hand to many things in life without being clearly notable for any of them. The Arabic article isn’t any help with sourcing unfortunately. Mccapra (talk) 11:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete, does not seem to be anything to support any claim of notability. As noted, largely unsourced. And in at least one case, tagged as such for a decade. I'd copyedit this lump of vaimglorious guff to the bone if I didn't think it was clearly headed for the exit.TheLongTone (talk) 13:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Iain Rawlinson

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Bio of a successful businessman who does not appear to me to be notable. Somewhat promotional in tone, it recounts ROTM career moves but does not seem to be anything more than a piece of PR. Mccapra (talk) 11:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Star Wars: Crosscurrent

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Current article fails notability guidelines, WP:NBOOK, WP:GNG. On the New York Times bestseller list but I couldn't find a review from a reliable source. Screen Rant article has what I would consider a passing mention: [46] Suggesting a redirect to List of Star Wars books as an alternative to deletion if no review or other piece of significant coverage is found. Mika1h (talk) 10:39, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Redirect per nom. Could not find anything anywhere. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:24, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Humiston family murders

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Tragic, but fails WP:NOTNEWS and WP:TOOSOON. If in future this somehow is covered in depth long term we can recreate it. CoconutOctopus talk 09:48, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete familicides very rarely fulfill NEVENT, and when they do it's usually obvious. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:05, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

The Land of Skulls

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I draftified this article because I don't believe it meets NFILM. However, the newbie creator Cassigad (talk · contribs) reverted my draftification, leaving me no choice but to take it to AFD. I wanted to give them a chance to improve it and submit it for review, but they were too hasty in moving it to the main NS.

Fwiw, the director of this film Farhan Rana Rajpoot has been active on Wikipedia in the past, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Farhan Rana Rajpoot/Archive and has edited using several accounts, all of which are globally locked. They have repeatedly attempted to create a BLP about themselves at Farhan Rana Rajpoot and I wouldn’t be surprised if Cassigad is a new sock of Farhan Rana Rajpoot. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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- Comment: Sir, I didn't mean to take it to mainspace, I surfed it, why is it an administrator, what was the proof for mainspace? The Land of Skulls
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Oppose: Sir, I don't have any link with him nor do I know him, how do I know who he is and whose account he has and what is his name?

Cassigad (talk) 09:45, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Josenid

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After reviewing this BLP, I don't think it meets the criteria for either WP:NSINGER or GNG. WP:SIGCOV requires high quality references with proper bylines. --Pitille02 (talk) 07:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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World Statesmen

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. The references used in the article only provide short descriptions. toweli (talk) 14:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Mexican auto insurance (tourist)

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While this page maybe helpful, I think it fails WP:NOTGUIDE. Wikipedia isnt here for helping tourists. That's what Google is for. Plus, we don't have other articles talking about this specific type of insurance in other countries. Some of the information over here maybe suitable to add to the page vehicle insurance in the United States JuniperChill (talk) 13:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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I am also going to add that due to the fact its been prodded before, a soft delete isn't possible. JuniperChill (talk) 19:04, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

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Comment: Automotive industry in Mexico might be a reasonable merge target. Left guide (talk) 07:40, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete, not notable and fails NOTGUIDE, and I don't see the title as a useful redirect. I don't think this is really relevant to the automotive industry and without a page about insurance in Mexico specifically I don't think this is suitable for a merge. CoconutOctopus talk 10:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete per WP:NOTGUIDE, and content of the article is too vague (and potentially outdated) to merge with anything, let alone an automotive industry article. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete per mom and other comments. Tourism in Mexico may be another place for *some* of this info. An outright merge with any existing article is inappropriate per NOTGUIDE and concerns that info and references may be outdated. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 21:23, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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BenchWarmers DVD Magazine

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I wasn't able to find any coverage of the subject in reliable sources. toweli (talk) 12:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete per nom and complete lack of references in the article. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 21:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Dror Paley

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No independent article which discuss about the subject in depth, fails WP:GNG. doesn’t received any special achievement or any prestigious award. TheSlumPanda (talk) 12:19, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Comment: as the article creator, I'm not particularly invested in this one. I basically created the article as an (unsolicited and unrewarded) favour for his then-webmaster because I thought a wikilink from Ilizarov apparatus would be better than a link to his website there; see the conversations at User talk:Szlimblengthening and my early-2009 talk page archive. I only ended up with the relevant articles on my watchlist due to unhelpful edits. I don't think I would have created this article under the same circumstances today, at least without doing a very deep WP:BEFORE check first. Graham87 (talk) 12:39, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Misaki Uemura

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Lack of significant and independent coverage. Nothing in ja:wiki either, and extremely weak claim to notability having played 1 game in Japan's second league. Creator is globally locked. Geschichte (talk) 07:14, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Shogo Yoshizawa

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No significant and independent sources whatsoever, including in ja:wiki. Therefore no indication of meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Creator is globally locked. Geschichte (talk) 07:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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List of songs that retell a work of literature

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While this is impressively referenced, it has major problems. First of all is the scope - what is "retelling"? This term is not linked, nor defined. Effectively this is a very broad "list of song that have some connection to the literary work of fiction". The list is grossly incomplete when we consider religious works - it includes only a dozen or so songs that mention Bible, but I am sure we could find tens of thousands, plus more for Koran, Buddhist texts, etc. And then we come to the elephant in the room, which is the ORish nature of this (i.e. failure of WP:NLIST - is there a similar list in a RS? I don't see much, although I noticed this listicle from The Guardian in the sources: [47]). Note that it uses the term inspired (so.... "list of songs inspired by works of literature"?). Again, the super broad criteria is a problem. Is this about retelling, or being inspired, or what? Is any song that mentions a literary work or character to be included? This is just a gigantic list of trivia, I am afraid. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Now Autumn 2008

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An IP address recently tried to redirect this, and was reverted. A notability tag is on the article. A WP:BEFORE search proved fruitless. An AfD discussion needs to be had. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 07:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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No sources, Redirect to Now That's What I Call Music! discography#Australia sometimes the IP address is right DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 10:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

IGlue

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Not notable. OXYLYPSE (talk) 15:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete Only one press release mentioning this...whatever it is...could be found. As for the parent company, I can find websites and database entries for several entities named In4, but it's not clear any of them have any connection to the In4 in the article. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:17, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Yusuke Tanahashi

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Very far from meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 68 minutes in Japan' second league. No significant and independent coverage, including in ja:wiki. Geschichte (talk) 07:15, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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El Taiger

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I can't find any significant coverage from independent and reliable sources.

the topic of the article seems not to comply with WP:SINGER, not WP:WEB, and just looking at the page shows that it also lacks WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS to comply with WP:GNG Pitille02 (talk) 05:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. For precisely the reasons presented in the nomination. Regards, BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 06:14, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Keep. There is significant coverage. There is a BBC article [48]. There is also coverage before death, in 2022, for instance [49][50][51] He seems a prominent artist. BilboBeggins (talk) 07:18, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

The BBC source is about his death, while the others are press releases about an album and tour. Not significant independent coverage. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 16:56, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

We don't need the sources and significabt coverage to be before death of a person. BBC article has significant coverage, it has biography. There are also Cuban sources feom before his death. BilboBeggins (talk) 08:29, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete. as the article looks now, there is no encyclopedic significance at all. If kept, reliable sources need to me added to the article for notability. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:00, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
First I want to mention that the article's notability is about the notability of the topic and amount of significant coverage, not the contents of the article. Second, I added contents. BilboBeggins (talk) 08:30, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete No significant media coverage of his music career, only his death. Death does not automatically establish notability. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 16:49, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Article in Billboard covers his music career: "One of the most popular Cubaton artists (a genre that fuses reggaeton with traditional Cuban rhythms), El Taiger is known for his Cuban-rooted urban sound heard in songs such as “La Historia,” “El Papelito” and “Habla Matador.”" [52] BilboBeggins (talk) 08:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep. There are reliable sources and there were more more sources, some from reliable sites, which were taken out of the article. Also, the nominator did not tell me about the nomination. Jeanette Lalo Camacho Martin (si?) 19:50, 12 October, 2024 (UTC)
Delete: A quick online search suggests that subject's death is the only source of significant coverage and, therefore, not "highly significant" according to WP:1E. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:30, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
It is not the only source of coverage, there are sources about his works [53] BilboBeggins (talk) 08:39, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Also Independent article is before his death, it has significant coverage, so it's not One Event case [54]. BilboBeggins (talk) 09:17, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
BilboBeggins WP:BLUDGEON. And for your persistent claims that any notable coverage of the subject existed before his death, it's still not in the article. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 17:36, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
There is a problem that some votes do not use argumentation based on facts, I want to stress this fact.

I added into article a 2017 Billboard reference about his song featured on the soundtrack of Fate of the Furious, breaking film. On this page I mentioned 2022 references. The Independent article is also technically before his death. There is also an article from today, so the coverage does not stop.

Reliable sources call artist famous in Cuba.

There are articles in BBC, Independent, ET about him. BilboBeggins (talk) 20:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete - I cannot find any source that can be suitable for this article, just promotional content and profiles. 181.197.42.215 (talk) 17:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC) Striking sock !vote. Daniel (talk) 22:23, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Weak Keep - it seems the subject accomplished enough as a musician to pass the notability guideline, but at the same time the fact that so many of the referances in the article are about his death seems to be problematic. This source seems to cover his life more in-depth, will look for other references. It does at the moment seem that most of the citations fail WP:NOTNEWS. Inter&anthro (talk) 01:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I've added some content and references from sources that precede his death. Hopefully the article now passes WP:GNG. Inter&anthro (talk) 02:07, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
  Thanks for the input. However, content about his religion, family members or his legal issues doesn't explain why the subject is notable as a musician. His discography has no articles, nor is there evidence of any awards or chart/notable label activity. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 03:17, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
  He collaborated with Enrique Iglesias and was part of the soundtrack of Fate of hhe Furious.
  
  This content prives that there is significant coverage.
  
  "His discography has no articles" — I am not sure what that means. There are sources fir his works. If you mean that there are no separate articles on his albums, it's not required. BilboBeggins (talk) 22:37, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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1899–1900 Staffordshire Senior Cup

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Individual season for local league, fails WP:GNG, WP:N, and WP:FOOTBALL, no significant coverage and nothing remarkable that merits inclusion of this particular season in comparison with other seasons which don't have articles Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:09, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

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Redirect to Staffordshire Senior Cup, not sure why you call Staffordshire local, it's a big area!! This occurred a long time ago so I don't know the coverage, there maybe some there in county and local newspaper searches. However I suggest redirect for now as alternative to deletion. Govvy (talk) 09:05, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 18:13, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
It doesn't really serve as a useful redirect though, firstly because none of the other seasons of this cup standalone exist as articles or redirects, and secondly, it's useful to no one as people aren't really going to search that season specifically just to redirect to the overall article. Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:20, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Comment - I'm seeing a lot of coverage in the BNA for this season. Obviously in the Staffordshire Sentinel, but also in national papers like the Sporting Life, Morning Leader, and papers from other counties. I currently don't have BNA access, User:Pkbwcgs can you precis your BNA search results? Nfitz (talk) 20:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

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I remain of the view that a redirect is the most suitable outcome. Giant Snowman 08:39, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep - I'm finding a lot of references to that season's competition, particularly in the BNA archive, which I don't have access to. There's less in Newspapers.com because of it's limited UK collection - but I've added 8 references to the article and expanded, from 8 different publications. Can User:GiantSnowman review these? There seems to be plenty of further references available to fully document the season. Nfitz (talk) 21:58, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Dipali Goenka

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A promotional biography of a businesswoman fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. None of the sources constitute WP:SIGCOV. Also, Wikipedia is not a resume hosting site WP:NOTRESUME. Also, the entire page is dominated by company references, while her personal references are limited to either WP:ROUTINE or WP:ADMASQ. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 05:13, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Comment There has been some misleading promotionalism in this article: in Recognition it said "Forbes magazine named her as the 16th most powerful woman in Asia and the 4th in India in 2016", but she was listed 16th in a list which explicitly states "this list -- which is presented alphabetically and is not intended to be a ranking". (I've edited this). This suggests that all sourcing needs very careful checking. PamD 08:11, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete - I’m not going to waste my time and yours with a detailed analysis of the made up in one day award and passing mentions. Suffice to say that she’s not notable. We’ve seen a lot of those pages, but in 2024 everyone knows we are not a free website listing everyone who runs a large business. Bearian (talk) 16:38, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep i am sorry but she is not the run of the mill businesswoman. She heads world’s one the largest textile companies. Forbes ranked her as the 16th most powerful woman in Asia. She has represented India at various international forums, including Harvard India and the World Economic Forum, and has chaired and served on the boards of major organizations. Agree with you and the page nomination about the promotional language in the article. Thus made significant improvements and removed promotional content/language and unnecessary sources and added more sigcov sources. There are lots of sources on google·Also created lawsuit for neutrality.she passes WP:GNG.Ashwithride (talk) 12:12, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Forbes lists her as the 16th, alphabetically, in a list of 50 most powerful women in Asia which explicitly says that it "is presented alphabetically and is not intended to be a ranking" (even if a Forbes India writer seems to misunderstand this). I corrected the statement in the "Recognition" section, but hadn't noticed that it was also misprepresented in the lead, which I have now corrected. The enthusiasm which some editors have for misrepresenting this listing makes one cautious about other claims, which should all be very carefully checked. PamD 13:06, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Note that User:Ashwithride created the article and appears not to have edited any other articles in en.wiki since creating their account on 9 July 20204. PamD 13:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Note that, in parallel, There was an attempt to remove controversies from Welspun Living's page on 13 February 2024, Welspun Corp's page got updated on 24 May 2024, Welspun Group name changed to Welspun World, and page got updated too on 12 June 2024; Dipali Goenka's page created on 10 July 2024, Welspun Enterprises' page created on 14 October 2024. Most of these pages are flagged for conflicts of interest, making it appear as if this year is especially focused on Welspun activity on Wikipedia. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

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Natasha Tambudzai Mncube

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The article relies on a very limited number of sources, primarily one cited article and a reference to Britannica. Many key details, such as her participation in "Big Brother The Chase" in 2013, her origin, and her personal history, are uncited. A WP:BEFORE search brought nothing out, and the article reads more like a promotional profile than an encyclopedic entry. The article fails to meet WP:GNG. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 04:39, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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The supposed reference to "Britannica" is in fact linked to the same Drum (SNL24) article as the first ref. So that there's only one source. It may be considered significant although based on an interview but I suppose it's not enough. The awards that she has apparently founded the Shining star Africa awards have received some coverage. Again, is that enough? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:07, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete: I genuinely cannot find anything outside of the Drum source, despite a decent search. It is mainly about her (not just about the award with passing mentions). But it's WP:PRIMARY as it's 90% direct quotes from her with the other 10% being "She told the drum that..." and primary sources don't count towards notability per WP:BIO. Therefore, I don't believe she presently meets the requirements. Molecular Pilot 05:23, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Nabeel Qadeer

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Fails GNG. Written like a PROMO. Wikibear47 (talk) 04:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Comment: In its current state, the BLP is not ready for the main NS. This PROMO BLP appears to have been created by a newbie, yet it resembles the work of an experienced editor, which raises concerns about possible UPE. I suggest we draftify it for now to allow an AFC review. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Draftify: It sure is written like a promo. Bunnypranav (talk) 16:12, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Climate finance in the United States

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AI-generated redundant fork of Climate change policy of the United States sourced entirely to primary sources. Flounder fillet (talk) 00:23, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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Redirect to ~~Climate policy of the United States~~ Climate change policy of the United States: As a WP:ATD. The article is too low-quality to merge anything. I note that there are several other articles titled "Climate finance in X", some of which might be suitable for merging into more general articles about climate change in their respective countries. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 01:54, 12 October 2024 (UTC) Helpful Raccoon (talk) 01:54, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Comment While trying to learn more about the WikiEdu program, I stumbled on the WikiEdu Climate Finance campaign which might be the origin of some of these articles. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 08:46, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi @ClaudineChionh I'm helping to run this initiative and would be happy to answer any questions you, or anyone else, might have about it. Thanks for all of the discussion. Will (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm particularly concerned about Climate finance in Trinidad and Tobago, which was created by an admin who's affiliated with WikiEdu. Its sourcing consists of two primary sources and three other sources that barely even mention climate change and just regurgitate the words of various corporations. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 19:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi @Helpful Raccoon I am looking for more sources to appear on that article as well. I think those government sources are high quality and an appropriate start. Happy to discuss that more on that article's talk page if you like. Will (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:27, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for the contributions to the article, I am adding wider references that offer an outside view and supporting evidence of outcomes and successes. Netforcarbon (talk) 18:44, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi Helpful Raccoon. I appreciate your concern. I created the climate finance in Trinidad and Tobago as a template for how to create articles like these - and to avoid largely redundant articles like this one. I do think this kind of information is important to surface particularly because it's buried in reports. That said, you're right, it's pretty bare bones, that that's on me for not continuing to expand it. Point taken. Guettarda (talk) 22:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying! One of my concerns is that it's unclear whether these climate finance articles meet WP:GNG. On the other hand, much of this information could be contained in broader articles such as "Climate change in X" or "Climate change policy in X". These articles could be sourced more easily while giving a more comprehensive overview of each country's situation. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 01:29, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the consideration that the article is relevant to the Climate Policy in the United States which I did feel was another faucet of the topic. I was focusing on presenting a view of climate finance in the U.S. from the Paris agreement commitments and the outcomes of the action which is relevant to policy but I feel a need to present a wider view. Netforcarbon (talk) 18:41, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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Helpful Raccoon, Climate policy of the United States isn't an appropriate Redirect target article because it is a Redirect, not an article. It should appear as a green link. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing that out, I meant Climate change policy of the United States. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 05:25, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing this article, the first version had bullet point and errors in format that I thought was referred to AI format. I have changed the format. Netforcarbon (talk) 18:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

@Netforcarbon To be clear, did you use AI to write this article? Helpful Raccoon (talk) 20:38, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

@Raccoon not AI to write the article but I do have an AI review and format assistant. I also use an AI editor but the content is from my notes and reviews of other documents on the US commitments and outcomes pertaining to climate finance which is also within my profession. Netforcarbon (talk) 13:02, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

I continued this discussion on your talk page. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 19:15, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

I was alerted to this from the WikiProject Climate Change talk page. I haven't looked at the actual content yet but in general, I am against creating such sub-sub-articles, which usually end up lingering with very low pageviews. Why not rather include some of this content as an example in the article climate finance? Or else within a U.S. specific climate change article like suggested above. Like Climate change policy of the United States or Climate change in the United States.

Also if WikiEdu or someone is organising a drive to create lots of these "climate finance" type articles for specific countries then please alert others through the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Climate change (early on, not just at the end). Thanks to User:FULBERT for the recent alert.

Also, using Chat-GPT (or similar) for language polishing or for ideas for structuring the article is perfectly fine. Using it for actually up to date content generation might be flawed. I am curious to learn how (if) you used AI for this exercise? If done correctly and carefully there is nothing wrong with that. But you'd have to be able to detect hallucinations and wrong information while working with it. EMsmile (talk) 09:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

@EMsmile I did not use AI to write content but I do use AI for format and for the final review. I will go back to rewrite content. I appreciate the insight to the wikiworld and the community of editors! Excellence in information sharing and climate finance in the Unites States is relevant and needs its own place of explanations that ultimately lead to the transparency of climate actions pertaining to financing. Netforcarbon (talk) 13:08, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Well, welcome to Wikipedia, User:Netforcarbon. I hope you like it here. My point is that if you want your content to be seen and read, then you might be better off integrating it into an existing article rather than creating a new one from scratch. I don't know if you have discovered the page view graphs yet? You can access it from the top "view history" tab. In general, I recommend to new Wikipedia editors to rather improve and enrich existing articles with higher pageviews rather than focusing on low pageview articles or even completely new articles. You have more impact with the high pageview articles. Also, if climate finance already has quite low pageviews (see here) then what makes you think that "climate finance in country X" would get any more pageviews? EMsmile (talk) 15:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi Netforcarbon and Will (Wiki Ed). If you are interested, I think a discussion about the campaign on the wp:WikiProject Climate Change talk page could be fruitful. This would be a less stressful and more collaborative environment than AfD. One of my concerns at the moment is this and possibly other articles serving as an uncritical, promotional listing of things that governments and corporations have called climate finance. Unfortunately quite a few things that are labelled climate finance are greenwashing, fossil fuel subsidies in disguise, or just ineffective. If we could start with a broader conversation about your goals and your skillsets, we could help you with things like figuring out what sources to use and choosing high-impact articles to create/improve. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 21:17, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

@Clayoquot Thanks for that recommendation - I'll post something soon. I also appreciate the greenwashing concern. I think this is exactly why we should be focusing on this area. Separating substantive climate change mitigation action from greenwashing is important. The funding element is also challenging, but its as important as any other kind of legislation. Thanks again! Will (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:13, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Keep because the US has such enormous financial clout that the topic seems to me to be notable. US policy and finance are both so influential there should be enough info for two articles. Although they will overlap somewhat not all policy is finance (for example policy can make regulations or diplomacy) and not all finance is policy (for example Tesla was only partly government funded - a lot was private, and much else is private finance e.g. 3 Mile Island). Chidgk1 (talk) 18:21, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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Econofoods

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Fails WP:NCORP. Sources on the page and in a WP:BEFORE do not meet WP:ORGCRIT. With only two locations I am unsure if press outside the local area could be found. CNMall41 (talk) 23:08, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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Leaning keep as a notable-enough regional Iowa supermarket. Some book sources coming up and listings in Plunkett's food industry and retail almanacs, and the Hoover's Handbook of American Business, Handbook of NASDAQ stocks,. Combined with a few of the local news stories about store closings and acquisitions I think this does pass WP:GNG.[55][56] Andre🚐 01:29, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

@Andrevan:, sorry, just seeing your comment now or would have pinged you earlier. The two you cited from The Register Mail are both about two local stores closing. In fact, they are basically the same (one from the employee perspective and one from the customer perspective). Neither meet WP:CORPDEPTH for the chain itself. The other two are business listings. Are there any references out there you found that meet WP:ORGCRIT?--CNMall41 (talk) 06:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

While I agree those sources might not meet a stricter standard, I think it meets GNG, along with the other local news already in the article, and I'm not sure that merging with Nash Finch or SpartanNash is necessary, but I can't see a full-scale delete beyond that merger, and I think other times when companies have been merged it's muddled up the history in a confusing way that could be resolved by treating as separate articles. A regional grocery chain with not a lot of stores can be notable with sourcing that describes it with a bit of narrative as these local stories do, through a local lens, but aren't ROUTINE or press releases. They describe the acquisition of the chain by Nash Finch. “When Nash-Finch came in, I was working in Monmouth. It was my day off and I got the call at home,” Cecil said. He said he started to suffer from burnout as Nash-Finch “dictated” ways of doing business that he didn’t agree with, such as selling select, rather than choice beef. “I was told they were doing less than half the business we were doing in ’98,” Cecil said of Econofoods when it closed. “It didn’t have to happen.” An unlikely place for business analysis perhaps, but there you go. The other one talks about consolidation in the market. This is corroborated by the business almanacs and Moody's listings and other stuff that come up on a Google Books search. As I said, I think it meets GNG, and I think more data could be found in Newspapers.com which has over 20,000 results in Iowa, but I'm at a keep because I believe GNG-level sourcing exists and more could be found for an article here. Andre🚐 06:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

I understand your point. However, as a company, it must meet the standards for companies and do not feel that these references do. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:37, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

That's a stricter WP:SNG standard for what is presumed notable, but any article is notable if it meets WP:GNG. Unless that has changed, the stricter standard is supplemental. Besides which, the purpose is to keep out promotional articles, not the history of regional supermarkets. Notability as a guideline has interpretation, but it's not WP:IAR to use GNG instead of CORP, because it's a supplemental presumption guideline that doesn't obviate GNG. You are free to still opine delete here of course. WP:N: A topic is presumed to merit an article if: It meets either the general notability guideline (GNG) below, or the criteria outlined in a subject-specific notability guideline (SNG) Emphasis mine.Andre🚐 05:43, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

"Unless that has changed" - That has not changed so you are quoting the SNG and GNG guidelines correctly. It is interesting as I argued this same contention (the one you present here) years ago but the company deletion discussions have, at least for the last four or five years, applied NCORP over GNG which is the reason for my contention to delete this page. Would be interesting to get a consensus otherwise as it would allow for keeping some pages that would be borderline under NCORP but likely meet GNG. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

It's pretty much guaranteed that when an editor starts arguing to ignore NCORP, its an acknowledgement that the topic fails the criteria. HighKing⁺⁺ 13:11, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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Keep per what Andre said. ^Wiinter_U 04:46, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. Also relevant that both Keep !voters acknowledge that the sourcing fails NCORP HighKing⁺⁺ 13:11, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Move to draft to provide time for further research and potential expansion. Newspapers.com returns 34,082 matches for "Econofoods", though at first glance many are advertisements and many are for uses other than this subject. Nonetheless, some are substantive articles addressing this article subject, and a deeper dive might uncover enough to meet NCORP. BD2412 T 00:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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GreenPark Christian Academy

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One-line stub for an obscure religious private school in St. Louis. The only references are non-independent. I wouldn't really call this to be significant coverage. This makes a passing mention of the school closing in 2010. There's a couple sentences here about the school closing, but that article is about a different entity. I just don't see a pass of WP:NSCHOOL here; it says something about the article subject that this school has apparently been closed for over 15 years and our article on it has not been updated with that information. Hog Farm _Talk 04:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Operation Martyr Helmet Dêraluk

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This article describes what was likely a minor skirmish and says of it “There is no independent confirmation from reliable sources.” Which means we should not have an article on it. Mccapra (talk) 03:55, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete only mentions I could find are in the references and this [57] (Syrian state media - not a WP:RS). All the references say "HPG claims" or "Kurdish forces announce" - none of the information is confirmed (one article just quotes the press statement, other paraphrases), it's all WP:PRIMARY and clearly the press statement cannot be reliable or considered to be from a WP:NPOV. Per WP:PRSOURCE "Press releases cannot be used to support claims of notability and should be used cautiously for other assertions" so it's a delete from me. Molecular Pilot 05:24, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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Sky FRU

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While the article itself only cites primary sources, I still tried to look for the sources for this subject and there are some but they are about announcements regarding this airline. This fails WP:N. Ratnahastin (talk) 03:54, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Theodor-Fliedner-Gymnasium

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WP:TNT. Article created October 2024. Retrieval date on some sources showing 2019. It would just take a lot of time to go through each source. It would be more effective to get of it, then someone else can re-create it if needed. Created and edited upon by a problematic AI injector. See the talk page and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#Possible_academic_boosterism_ref_spamming. Graywalls (talk) 03:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Keep: The article appears to be a translation from another language version, consistent with Wikipedia’s guidelines on cross-language contributions. The retrieval dates correspond to the original language sources, which is standard practice in translations. The content is factual, well-sourced, and enhances coverage on this topic. 2A02:C7C:EC31:4200:5935:4048:17E1:63F9 (talk) 10:14, 26 October 2024 (UTC) blocked sock Flounder fillet (talk) 14:55, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
GPT Zero says above text is 100% AI... and this is a deletion discussion about fake reference inserting AI account... Graywalls (talk) 12:23, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

*:::This not correct. It is a proper translation following standard Wiki guidelines, not an AI-generated text. Please avoid these unfounded accusations. If you have concerns, consider addressing them constructively rather than through repeated reverts and deletion sprees. 185.137.36.82 (talk) 16:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

This IP has been blocked as a sock of the article's creator. Flounder fillet (talk) 14:53, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

*:::Both you and user Graywalls are jointly engaging in actions that appear to target and silence the main profile in the context of constructive talks. If the profile is blocked, any engagement can only occur through IPs, which may change frequently due to being away from home – this is a technical matter, not intentional. 185.137.36.82 (talk) 16:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete. Suspicious vandal-created article. If this is indeed a translation from another language as the IP claims, it is unattributed (see WP:TFOLWP) and should be deleted as a copyright violation. Flounder fillet (talk) 11:40, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
~~Keep & add the corresponding hint. Translations are common and even encouraged by the Wikipedia through the translation editor. 185.137.36.88 (talk) 12:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)~~blocked sock --Flounder fillet (talk) 14:56, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

*:::These highly immature blocking actions, especially in the context of content-driven opinions that seek to solve the situation, constitute bullying, harassment, and silencing. 185.137.36.82 (talk) 16:28, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

You are allowed to dispute your block at your account's talk page. Evading it goes against policy and will result only in more blocks. Flounder fillet (talk) 17:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

E-Safety Authority

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E-safety authority, has not been formally established. While it has been approved in a cabinet meeting, this does not constitute actual creation. Wikibear47 (talk) 03:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Comment Whether an organisation has officially commenced operations or not is not relevant to notability. The fact that it is a government agency with a legal basis means it is highly likely to commence operations, anyway. We need to know whether the authority has received significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources. AusLondonder (talk) 08:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Well a point I forgot to mention is that usually as per my knowledge after cabinet approval the act has to pass through parliament to come into force. Cabinet approval means that the Federal Cabinet has no issue with the act. Wikibear47 (talk) 08:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Comment: It's a proposed entity that has received some coverage in 2023, but I don’t believe it meets NORG since there isn’t any sustained coverage. Imv, it falls under WP:TOOSOON. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete: As an only proposed government entity, it is WP:TOOSOON for this article. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Draftify: as an ATD. I agree with the TOOSOON concerns and there's been no coverage of this agency since the announcement that I can see. voorts (talk/contributions) 14:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Embassy of South Korea, Ankara

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Fails WP:ORG. Only 2 primary sources provided. A search for sources found incidents like this which don't really add to notability. https://www.turkiyetoday.com/turkiye/south-korean-ambassador-jeong-yeondoo-prefers-yht-for-ankara-trip-539/ LibStar (talk) 03:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete per nom. Mccapra (talk) 04:20, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep or Merge an integral part of diplomatic relations between two countries are embassies. These articles cannot be missing from Wikipedia; if they are not notable standalone they should definitely be merged into the main article. For this particular embassy I found some references in the Turkish media - and there will be many more if I search thoroughly. [58] [59] [60] LefterDalaka (talk) 17:32, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
The sources are ... something else. The second source is about Ambassador Jeong praising Turkish cuisine. It would be preposterous to keep the article Embassy of South Korea, Ankara based on such sources. Geschichte (talk) 18:16, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete, no relevant sources about the physical embassy. Geschichte (talk) 18:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

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I did a source review, and they have nothing to do with the embassy. The first is about the relations in general, including newer developments such as "In January 2023, a Korean company signed a contract with Turkey for the supply of 101 Altay tank power packs and main parts". The second source is about Ambassador Jeong praising Turkish cuisine. The third is about a ceremony at the Turks Who Fought in Korea Monument. None of them can be construed to support notability for the physical embassy in any way. Geschichte (talk) 07:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Tarita Botsman

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Tagged for BLP sourcing issues since 2022. Article is largely cited to primary and non-independent sources. Not clear that the subject meets WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO, or WP:SINGER. 4meter4 (talk) 02:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Taylor Rousseau Grigg

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May not meet WP:ENT or WP:SIGCOV. Minimal sourcing outside of her death. TJMSmith (talk) 01:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete I'm not seeing what makes her notable. Her follower count isn't especially massive in comparison to the highest followed on the app, her business ventures aren't notable. Rusted AutoParts 03:13, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
she passed away. This is pretty heartless to delete her autobiography. If you died you would want your legacy to live on. I know her husband would want this to stay up as well. 174.27.213.42 (talk) 07:04, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia don't delete you have many other non famous people on here that are minor influences. 174.27.213.42 (talk) 07:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument. And no offence but what her husband might or might not want has no bearing on whether this remains as an article or not. Procyon117 (talk) 17:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

I agree with what is said above. Don't delete this article CallieCrewmanAuthor (talk) 14:14, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep this is an edge case but there is more than passing mention coverage of the subject before her death and certainly after. Nnev66 (talk) 21:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep heartless to delete. Krazykatlady123 (talk) 07:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete: Not seeing how WP:GNG is met, and coverage of death is not enough. Melcous (talk) 08:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep: I personally believe that she is notable enough, and though the article is quite a stub, it does not seem fair to delete an article about someone who passed away. 68.230.53.144 (talk) 16:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

68.230.53.144, most of the biographical articles on Wikipedia are about people who have passed away. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Glacier Bancorp

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Does not meet WP:NCORP. Most sources are routine. Badbluebus (talk) 01:03, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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Keep. Per WP:LISTED, sufficient independent sources to clear WP:NCORP almost always exist for publicly traded companies. "Examples of such sources include independent press coverage and analyst reports", and that is the case for this company. See the table below linking to recent (paywalled) independent analyst reports from MarketBeat for Glacier Bancorp (GBCI). Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:52, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Date	Brokerage	Action	Rating	Price Target	Upside/Downside on Report Date	Details
10/2/2024	Raymond James	Boost Target	Outperform ➝ Outperform	$45.00 ➝ $48.00	+7.55%	View Report Details
9/20/2024	Truist Securities	Boost Target	Hold ➝ Hold	$46.00 ➝ $50.00	+6.68%	View Report Details
8/27/2024	Piper Sandler	Reiterated Rating	Neutral ➝ Neutral	$38.00 ➝ $38.00	-17.84%	View Report Details
4/23/2024	Stephens	Lower Target	Equal Weight ➝ Equal Weight	$44.00 ➝ $40.00	+4.49%	View Report Details
4/22/2024	DA Davidson	Lower Target	Buy ➝ Buy	$48.00 ➝ $45.00	+25.28%	View Report Details

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1937 State Park

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An article that was copied and pasted from draftspace. A WP:BEFORE search reveals links about the band but not the song. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 02:31, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. A quick search doesn't turn up anything that would contribute to notability, and the article doesn't have any sourcing.nf utvol (talk) 03:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Mitch Anderson (director)

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No evidence of significant coverage. I came across the article when nominating several of his directed films for deletion (see 1, 2, 3), and subsequent searches for him specifically have failed to turn up more sources, even after narrowing the search terms to avoid other Mitch Andersons. His IMDb credits are relatively light, supporting the idea that there is likely no significant coverage of him or his work. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete: Very minimal coverage now in the article, does not seem to meet notability. I can't find anything about this person, also his personal website appears to be inactive. Trex32 (talk) 02:50, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete per nom. No indications of notability that I could find either and sourcing isn't at a level needed for a BLP. nf utvol (talk) 03:06, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Conflict in the Neutral Zone of Junik

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The article only has two citations and it's for the background, which is basically copied what is already in the Neutral Zone of Junik. There's nothing that supports any of the text in the article. Also looks like a WP:POVFORK of Neutral Zone of Junik and Kachak Movement.

I tried to move it to draft but it was disallowed as this same article was already created by another editor and recently moved to draftspace by @Joy: Draft:Conflict in the Neutral Zone of Junik. Griboski (talk) 01:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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With title as contrived as this (0 hits in a Google Books search), this looks like Hellenistic dude and Based Drenica are some form of a WP:SOCK policy violation.

Maybe the same guy who's been pushing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albanian Resistance in Yugoslavia and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albanian–Yugoslav conflict and whatever other recent spate of nonsense? That was NormalguyfromUK, who was blocked and locked already.

--Joy (talk) 15:06, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

It seems more than a tad suspect that Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of NormalguyfromUK already contains 2 other usernames called "Based" something. --Joy (talk) 15:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

It is strange. I assume CU would have found that in the last SPI entry. But as was pointed out there, for most of them it seems like they are just friends coordinating off-wiki on TikTok and Discord. There is a constant fresh stream of accounts creating these bad Albanian POV battle articles.

@Demetrios1993: interestingly pointed out how a recent academic paper mentioned one of these accounts was massively creating AI-generated articles. --Griboski (talk) 16:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

@Griboski and Joy: I began an SPI on Based Drenica; they appear to be a sockpuppet of indefinitely blocked Albanian atdhetar. Demetrios1993 (talk) 19:40, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Well, like I said, a violation of the sockpuppetry policy, the parts about promoting your cause off-wiki. The standard for handling that should be in line with the topic area this is in. --Joy (talk) 20:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Templates for discussion

October 26

Template:PHO side tab

Template:PHO side tab (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links. Created in 2020. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:31, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Rfc demote note

Template:Rfc demote note (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions. Proposed in 2023 but apparently not adopted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Transclude random subpage/BHG-test

Template:Transclude random subpage/BHG-test (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Module:Transclude random subpage/BHG-test (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Transclude list item excerpts as random slideshow/BHG-test (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Module:Excerpt slideshow/BHG-test (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, user-specific test templates and modules, created in 2019. Gonnym (talk) 18:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:VisionOS versions

Template:VisionOS versions (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Simple single use table. Subst into article and delete template. Gonnym (talk) 18:37, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete. Riskofspam created VisionOS version history too which is a redirect now. As there are only two versions of VisionOS there is no need for a separate article or template. Killarnee (talk) 21:06, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Rugbymatchlineup

Template:Rugbymatchlineup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Rugbymatchlineup collapsible (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions or incoming links. Created in 2011. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:SGPResults04

Template:SGPResults04 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links. Created in June 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Sports Injuries

Template:Sports Injuries (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused navbox template. There are too many sports injuries, for example most of the pages in Category:Overuse injuries and in Category:Dislocations, sprains and strains, for a navbox like this to be comprehensive and useful. Categories work better. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Infobox fair

Template:Infobox fair (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This infobox is used on a single event page, which could use Template:Infobox recurring event without needing any change to it. Gonnym (talk) 18:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Symptoms

Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Symptoms (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Treatments given (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:COVID-19 vaccination data in North America (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Cases COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia/table (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Interactive COVID-19 maps/common/botsandbox (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Interactive COVID-19 maps/data (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Interactive COVID-19 maps/data/Confirmed covid cases-csv (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Interactive COVID-19 maps/data/Cumulative deaths by date-csv (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Interactive COVID-19 maps/data/Daily confirmed covid cases-csv (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Interactive COVID-19 maps/data/Daily deaths by country-csv (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Interactive COVID-19 maps/data/Deaths by country-csv (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Interactive COVID-19 maps/data/Dummy data for dates-csv (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Interactive COVID-19 maps/data/global Confirmed covid cases by date-csv (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Interactive COVID-19 maps/data/UN 2019 Population by country-csv (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Interactive COVID-19 maps/data/World map data (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

These are a few more untranscluded COVID-related templates. They should either be incorporated into articles, moved to Project space, or deleted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:30, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Editnotices/Page/MediaWiki:Blockedtext

Template:Editnotices/Page/MediaWiki:Blockedtext (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This was tagged for G6 speedy deletion by Awesome Aasim with the following rationale: A single standardized template now provides the messages, also phab:T229992. The G6 tag sat in the queue for over a week and no admin was comfortable acting on it, so I'm sending it here as a procedural nomination. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:24, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Malaysia statehood dates

Template:Malaysia statehood dates (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Article content on template space. Only used on two articles. All information on this template can be found on respective articles. This template is not giving any information that requires a template to do so or better of in template space. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:08, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete. The years can be added to the tables at States and federal territories of Malaysia. Also, this is an inproper use of navbox to store article content in the middle of an article. Navbox are hidden in mobile. Gonnym (talk) 09:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete, not helpful for navigation. (Also pretty boring, considering there are only two directly applicable dates.) CMD (talk) 12:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Breaking at the Summer Olympics

Template:Breaking at the Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and only one link. No navigation. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete. Unhelpful navigation template. Gonnym (talk) 09:19, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Bowl games map

Template:Bowl games map (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused map. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Gotham TV Award for Outstanding Performance in a Drama Series

Template:Gotham TV Award for Outstanding Performance in a Drama Series (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and only one article linked. This is a new award and it happened for the first time this year. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:58, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:New Zealand Labour Party membership

Template:New Zealand Labour Party membership (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and no information can be displayed for use as it uses graphs and graphs are not working for the time. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:57, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:New Zealand Labour Party electoral history

Template:New Zealand Labour Party electoral history (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and no information can be displayed for use as it uses graphs and graphs are not working for the time. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:56, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Public records laws in the United States

Template:Public records laws in the United States (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused with no mainspace article. Nothing connects other than the similarities of these laws. No real unifying topic presented. All articles are under Category:Freedom of information legislation in the United States. But no main article exists for this category so a navbox isn't necessary or needed. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:54, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Mister International Venezuela titleholders

Template:Mister International Venezuela titleholders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Contains only one link to any article of relevance outside the main article. No navigation. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:50, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nominator. Navigation templates without navigation both confuses readers, and makes the encyclopedia look incompetent. ☆ Bri (talk) 02:24, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Venezuela at Mister International

Template:Venezuela at Mister International (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Had been deleted before for not having any links. Now has only one link to an article of relevance. No navigation. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:50, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Paracanoeing at the 2024 Summer Paralympics

Template:Paracanoeing at the 2024 Summer Paralympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and all links are redirected to the main article. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Shindo

Template:Shindo (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions, documentation, categories, or incoming links. Created in April 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:34, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Object as the creator. This is a template that largely exposes the Shindo module in a manner that can be used by casual users. We can use it as a placeholder to redirect users to more appropriate templates. Awesome Aasim 15:59, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

What's the purpose of this specific template? If it's only use is documentation, it does not belong there. Gonnym (talk) 18:28, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

If a new scale is added to the module, but that scale's template cannot exist for some reason because the template already exists, then this can be used instead to invoke that seismic intensity scale. Awesome Aasim 19:37, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Looking at the templates like Template:JMA and Template:CWA I actually think those should be deleted. {{Shindo|JMA|1}} works and that is much better than needing to create a new template for each scale when there is no real reason for it. So I support the opposite, replace the various scales with this. Gonnym (talk) 20:25, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Awesome Aasim, thank you for adding basic documentation and a category. This template appears to do most of what {{CSIS}} and similar templates do. Would you be open to a merge to single template? It looks like someone might have to add a few features/parameters to {{Shindo}} to make the merge easy to perform. If you think a merge is possible, I'll be happy to add relevant templates to this TFD. A complete list of those templates would be helpful. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:08, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

I am terrible at documenting my code, sorry. I make the individual scales invocable for ease of template creation. I have no objections to a merge, but be aware that a lot of the work I did for the module was to ensure backwards compatibility with the previous template code.

I do think there are some useful areas like templatestyles and the like to make the coloring more uniform and dark mode compatible, which currently this module isn't. But that will require a bit of testing, and I do not want to break a thousand pages to attempt to make dark mode work. Awesome Aasim 22:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 17:31, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

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Files for discussion

October 26

File:Scrooge in KH2.jpg

I do not think we need an image of Scrooge in the Kingdom Hearts series. His design is not different within the series, and the page image serves that purpose better. (Oinkers42) (talk) 15:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

File:Julia Hawkins.png

It seems some editors are out to further prove that the objective is prettying up articles, not respect for copyright. This was added to the article a mere 32 hours after the article's creation, which itself was a reaction to news reports of her death. It's long been held that WP:BLP applies for 1½–2 years after a subject's death. FFD outcomes have usually shown that adding non-free images to BLPs is a no-no. Even so, it's plainly obvious that we haven't even come close to exhausting all opportunities to locate a free image. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 18:58, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Categories for discussion

October 26

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Republican cities of Latvia

Propose renaming Category:Republican cities of Latvia to Category:State cities of Latvia

Nominator's rationale: rename, according to Administrative divisions of Latvia the correct name is state city. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Chaoyang County

Propose merging Category:Chaoyang County to Category:Chaoyang, Liaoning

Nominator's rationale: Largely duplicative category containing a single article. Unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 15:17, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:08, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Skelton-in-Cleveland

Propose merging Category:Skelton-in-Cleveland to Category:Redcar and Cleveland

Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and an article about a long-defunct railway station. Merging to parent is more suitable categorisation. AusLondonder (talk) 15:05, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Just delete, both articles are already in the tree of Category:Redcar and Cleveland. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
I've added a church and there is another at Commons:Category:All Saints' Church, Skelton in Cleveland that could probably have an article however although I don't think SMALLCAT would apply it might just be better to delete and re create later if necessary. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Hatherleigh

Propose merging Category:Hatherleigh to Category:Borough of West Devon

Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and an article about a long-defunct railway station. Merging to parent is more suitable categorisation. AusLondonder (talk) 14:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
This is a town not a village however its a small one of less than a thousand for the settlement and nearly 2 thousand for the parish. There are 91 listed buildings of which at least some such as the Grade I listed church probably qualifies for an article and there are 2 Grade II* buildings. I don't object to deletion as the author but I don't think WP:SMALLCAT would apply as there is scope for expansion but it might be better to just wait until we have more articles. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Benwick

Propose merging Category:Benwick to Category:Fenland District

Nominator's rationale: Category containing only an article about a village already in the parent category and a defunct railway, better categorised in the parent. AusLondonder (talk) 14:52, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:12, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
I don't think WP:SMALLCAT would apply as its quite possible there will be other things in the parish that can have articles but it only has 1 listed building and if other things can be created it would probably be better to just wait until then and re create if necessary. Until April there was Benwick Parish Council but that probably doesn't need an article so merged made sense. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:MultiVersus characters

Propose deleting Category:MultiVersus characters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: I feel like, unlike Category:Super Smash Bros. fighters, this category would not be considered WP:DEFINING for any of the characters involved. (Oinkers42) (talk) 14:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete Per nom, a cameo appearance is not defining. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Towns and villages in Latvia

Propose merging Category:Towns and villages in Latvia to Category:Populated places in Latvia

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with two (very obvious) subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:30, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Support - a distinction without a difference, as far as {{WP Cities}} is concerned. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 14:14, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Vehicle-building video games

Propose merging Category:Vehicle-building video games to Category:Construction and management simulation games

Nominator's rationale: I'm not getting much that confirms a "vehicle-building" genre really exists. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:29, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Secernentea

Propose merging Category:Secernentea to Category:Nematodes

Nominator's rationale: WoRMS and the article on Secernentea agree that this taxon is no longer in use. jlwoodwa (talk) 01:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:SubGenii by nationality

Propose merging Category:SubGenii by nationality to Category:SubGenii

Nominator's rationale: Redudant category layer Mason (talk) 00:43, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete, not a defining characteristic of the subjects in the category. If not deleted, merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Hong Kong–Saudi Arabia relations

Propose merging Category:Hong Kong–Saudi Arabia relations to Category:China–Saudi Arabia relations

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. This category is extremely narrow intersection that really doesn't have sufficient pages to population it. (I looked) Mason (talk) 00:37, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Support as per the recent developments. Srijanx22 (talk) 05:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Merge per nom. It would have been different if the article was about an event before 1997 but that is not the case. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:24, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Films scored by Naved Parvez

Propose deleting Category:Films scored by Naved Parvez (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Naved Parvez was deleted in 2020. This category was created in 2024 and has 9 articles. I'm not sure if this category is needed as Parvez doesn't have an article. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Support - The main article was deleted. The category must also go. Srijanx22 (talk) 05:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Question: wouldn't this be sufficient for a list? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Redirects for discussion

October 26

Michael J. Burns

Michael J. Burns → Alaska Permanent Fund (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There is no mention of "Michael" or "Burns" at the target article; people who use this search term would be unclear and confused on how the subject they searched for relates to the topic that they ended up on. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 21:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete Web searches indicate that Burns was the former CEO of the target, but the redirect is unhelpful without a mention. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Canales semicirculares anterior

Canales semicirculares anterior → Semicircular canals (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No affinity to Spanish, so delete, I think. Duckmather (talk) 21:48, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Comment: Notably, this is not just a Spanish translation, but "a Nomina Anatomica synonym to Terminologia Anatomica or a common used term", as noted in the edit summary. However, this alternate terminology is not mentioned at the subject, and there is no allusion to the Spanish language or way to indicate why the Spanish translation points here, (maybe someone wanted to get to the Spanish Wikipedia article?) so I weakly lean towards deletion on these WP:FORRED grounds. If kept, this should be refined to Semicircular canals#Anterior semicircular canal. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 21:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Cadenas y canales de televisión

Cadenas y canales de televisión → Television channel (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No affinity to Spanish, so delete, probably? Duckmather (talk) 21:47, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom, as the redirect roughly translates to "television channels and channels". Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 21:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

CSSBuy

CSSBuy → Freight forwarder (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There is no mention of "CSS" or "Buy" at the target article, much less "CSSBuy", much less any mention on all of Wikipedia (of which there is none). Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 21:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Cruciverbalist

Cruciverbalist → Crossword (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention of this term at the target article. Is tagged as "an alternate name" and "an alternate language", but I'm doubtful of both of these claims, as the word is in English and has a definition of "someone who makes crossword puzzles". However, Wikipedia is WP:NOTDICT, and with no mention of the definition or relation to the topic, this is not helpful as a redirect. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 21:40, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Crop Protection (journal)

Crop Protection (journal) → International Association for the Plant Protection Sciences (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There is no mention of such a journal at the target article. People who are looking for information on this journal would not find it at the target article. Tagged as having possibilities, so perhaps this journal could be a standalone page one day, but a blue-link to a page-without-mention is not the way, it seems. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 21:24, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Crean Hill, Ontario

Crean Hill, Ontario → Walden, Ontario (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There is no mention of a "Crean Hill" at the target article. People using this search term are unaware of what and where this location has anything to do with Walden. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 21:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Craig Joint Theater Hospital

Craig Joint Theater Hospital → Bagram Airfield (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There is no mention of "Craig" or "Theater" at the target article. This redirect is tagged as having possibilities, but such possibilities are closer to impossible if this redirect is a blue link and pointing at a title where the hospital is not discussed. Is mentioned on 3 pages: List of hospitals in Afghanistan, 455th Air Expeditionary Wing, and Advanced cardiac life support. Unsure if any of these are truly ideal, however, or if WP:REDYES would apply. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 21:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Cowboy Luttrell

Cowboy Luttrell → National Wrestling Alliance (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention of "Cowboy" or "Luttrell" at the target article. Not a helpful redirect if we have no content on this supposed individual wrestler at the target article for the NWA. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 21:12, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Roger M. Cooke

Roger M. Cooke → Resources for the Future (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No history, no mention of such a person at the target article in the prose. The only aspect where this is mentioned is that Cooke apparently is one of the (many) authors of one source used in the references here. But no indication who this person is or how they are related to this subject. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 21:08, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Conerve

Conerve → Nerve complex (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention of "conerve" at the target article. Possibly a portmanteau of "complex nerve"? But without a definition, is confusing. I'm getting mixed results when I type in "conerve" in search engines, which say something about a "conerve capsule"(?) (but are generally about being one letter off of "conserve"). In any case, without a mention, there is currently nothing suitable for incoming readers using this search term. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 21:06, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Communist Party (Kosovo)

Communist Party (Kosovo) → List of political parties in Kosovo (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention of "communist" at the target article. A misleading redirect to a target where the party in question is not discussed. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 21:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

CNN Underscored

CNN Underscored → CNN (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There is no mention or discussion of an "underscored" variant of CNN. No mention of the word "underscore" anywhere at the target. Currently a misleading redirect, as people who would have otherwise wanted the general article for CNN, would've typed in "CNN". Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 20:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

"CNN Underscored" is CNN's affiliate marketing division. They rate and recommend various consumer products and receive a cut of the proceeds if people click through to buy them. See https://www.cnn.com/cnn-underscored. gnu 57 21:54, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Enslaved Africans

Enslaved Africans → Atlantic slave trade (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

"Enslaved Africans" seems too broad to be redirecting to the Altantic slave trade alone. Either seems like it should be redirected to Slavery in Africa, to a disambiguation page or just deleted. Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:23, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Pizzaface

Pizzaface → List of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles characters#Pizza Face (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Pizza Face → List of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles characters#Pizza Face (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

currently unmentioned in the target and with primary topichood completely usurped by a pizza tower character with the same name (good for him :3). was about to retarget there and call it a day, but per wikt:pizza face, there might be some other possible target(s). opinions? cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 19:30, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguate at pizza face and add the wiktionary link there. The TMNT character 'Pizza Face' is mentioned at Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012 TV series) season 2 where it is also the title of a TV episode. There are several other topics on Wikipedia available as mentions. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:29, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Notified of the discussion at the target and at Pizza Tower.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 19:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Fântânele River (Mureș)

Fântânele River (Mureș) → Mureș (river) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Fantanele River (Mures) → Mureș (river) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Fântânele River (Mureş) → Mureș (river) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Was redirected under a verifiability concern years ago. Fântânele River doesn't list it. Can't find it on either OSM or Google maps. Used to also have Kutas-patak redirected to it, but that's a waterway somewhere else. Looks like this was the result of some sort of a confusion. Joy (talk) 19:18, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Comment: There's also the version without diacritics, which I'll be adding here, since I think it should share the same fate. Regards, SONIC 678 20:19, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:24, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Bundled another version Fântânele River (Mureş).
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 18:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Bhairabi Temple, Boudh district

Bhairabi Temple, Boudh district → Boudh district#Purunakatak (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Among the temples listed at the article, "Bhairabi" isn't one of them, and the section this redirect points to no longer exists. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Ra'ad 1

Ra'ad 1 → RAAD (anti-tank guided missile) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

The more I research this redirect, the more confused I get. For starters, this redirect formerly targeted the article that is currently at Fajr-3 (artillery rocket), and did for the past six years. However, before that, this redirect targeted the article which it currently targets. However, to throw some more confusion into the mix, another similarly-titled article, Raad-1, exists. I may have figured out a better plan for what to do with this redirect by now if it were not for its incoming links; I am not clear what subject these links are meant to refer to. I'm thinking disambiguate is the way to go here, but I'm incredibly unclear what the base title should be for such a disambiguation page. Steel1943 (talk) 00:41, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Comment both RAAD (anti-tank guided missile) and Raad-1 say they mean Thunder and Thunder-1. ; while Fajr-3 (artillery rocket) seems to mean Aurora-3 or Dawn-3 ? -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:09, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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Melonade

Melonade → Homestar Runner (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at target; listed in Lucozade#Variants but there is also a more general Wiktionary entry at wikt:melonade. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 23:42, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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Soft Retarget to wikt:melonade as the best information currently available on this word. I have doubts it is sufficiently covered in WP:RS to make an article here at this time (but who knows in the future...). Fieari (talk) 06:02, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete per nom, unmentioned and WP:REDYES 35.139.154.158 (talk) 23:54, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete. No article has any substantive material. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:49, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
REtarget to melon where melon juice redirects to -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:28, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Soft redirect to wikt:melonade per Thryduulf. Enix150 (talk) 00:18, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
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Scottish Nose-pickers

Scottish Nose-pickers → Scottish National Party (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Scottish Nose Pickers → Scottish National Party (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Scottish Nosepickers → Scottish National Party (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Little Evidence that this is a title that would be searched for. Only a reference to Nicola Sturgeon Picking her nose can be found using this search term. See no need for a redirect on that basis. Blethering Scot 15:45, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Note I've merged these two related nominations that had an identical rationale. Thryduulf (talk) 16:28, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep this is a very-long established nickname with lots of independent uses, e.g. [61], [62], [63], [64], [65], [66], and plenty of others. Thryduulf (talk) 16:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep per Thryduulf. BarntToust ^(Talk) 20:56, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Note I've added the other redirect I made of a variant of this name. UltrasonicMadness (talk) 10:21, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete, not mentioned at target/WP:REDYES. I would expect someone searching for this term already knows what it refers to, but is looking for information about its usage specifically -- information we don't have. And on the off chance someone doesn't, they may be left wondering why they were led to the target in the first place. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 14:43, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete per 35. Possibly speedy as well. Maybe those sources are good, I don't know. But it is definitely not helpful for regular readers, because the only evidence that they might be at the right place is tucked into an October 2024 discussion in projectspace (this one). So readers are unable to verify any of that, or "easily check that information comes from a reliable source". On top of that, it's G10. No mention of "nose" or "picker" at the target. The example textualized at the WP:G10 policy page clarifies that "mentioned attacks are valid". It's never been the case where the opposite is acceptable (unmentioned attacks). Delete. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:16, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep per WP:RNEUTRAL, tag as non-neutral. This is a perjorative name that isn't clearly linked to its target at first glance, but as Thryduulf states has a long history of being used. I disagree with the IP's assertion that someone searching for this topic would 100% be trying to find out more info about what the name comes from-- they could just as easily be trying to figure out what it refers to. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 12:30, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
"they could just as easily be trying to figure out what it refers to". But we have no information to help them determine that, or why it does. Wikipedia is not Google. If an ignorant reader puts in in the search bar, they'll have no idea why they landed where they did, with no information about the phrase they were looking for. It's misleading and a waste of a reader's time. Therefore, deletion is the only reasonable action here. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 13:14, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.

I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that. → HAL 9000 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Per Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_19#I'm_sorry_Dave. I'm not convinced that deletion was the right outcome there, but this redirect should suffer the same fate. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:08, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Strong keep. Fortunately we are not bound by consensus so when a previous discussion gets it wrong we are not required to repeat it. This is a very notable quote, indeed it's the most notable quote from the entire work. There are potential arguments that "I'm sorry Dave" could be ambiguous (I've not looked to see if it is in practice), but for the whole quote every single one of the hits on the fist 8 pages of Google for I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that -Wikipedia -Wikiquote (not even the exact phrase) are about the film, about the line from the film, or referencing (almost always explicitly) the line from the film. People are using this redirect (sometimes it's getting multiple times per day) and the target is unambiguous, so deletion would be harmful. Thryduulf (talk) 19:50, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep as per Thryduulf. Even if it's not explicitly listed off in the actual articles, this is, as Thryduulf notes, the most notable quote in the entire work, a quote near synonymous with the character of HAL 9000 itself. Removing this redirect or directing it anywhere else would do a huge disservice to the readership. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:55, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Strong delete per Lunamann... from April, during the previous discussion. What I'm reading in THIS discussion, based on what has been stated so far, is baseless assertions of "having highest notability" with zero particular sources or evidence behind the claim "it's the most notable quote from the entire work". "Synonymous with the entire character itself", no less!! According to the information listed on our Wikipedia pages, Hal 9000 and its reliable sources, it's not. There are 8-10 quotes at the target that are namedropped, WITH sources and enough presumed importance to be featured in prose, but none are this one, and none of those have redirects.

Is it really the most notable quote from the entire work? Genuinely excellent! This content could improve the encyclopedia. So there MUST be some way to verify this claim from a reliable source? If I were to type this in as a significant quote, for starters I would certainly want to read about the quote SPECIFICALLY, because that's exactly the search term I typed in, but such an article does not exist at this time. Therefore, we'd want to encourage readers to add material which we don't have, per WP:REDLINK. For a standalone article, a structure like Our princess is in another castle! could work? We've definitely done it before. But maybe this quote-topic can be covered on a different page, and not have to be standalone if the sources aren't up to par. If I had to pick a character to end up at, I would personally want to go to an article about "Dave" (because that is the name I purposely typed). I did not type in HAL 9000. If I wanted HAL 9000, I (and anyone who wanted to find HAL 9000) would've typed in "HAL 9000", which I deliberately be avoiding by typing in 9 words, none of which contain "HAL" and none of which contain "9000". The search term is, for all tenses and purposes, a totally separate topic. A quote. Not a character. And nothing exists for it on Wikipedia, it seems.

If this quote is so important as it is claimed here, it seems like it'd be a homerun out-of-the-park slam dunk to have SOMEthing, SOMEwhere, related to this quote. But, to the best of my understanding, we do not, anywhere. We didn't in January. We didn't in April. And nearly a year later, not in October either. So the only conclusion that can be drawn from the history, given that not even Lunamann wanted to save this in April, is that this quote must not be worthwhile! (Obviously this is not true, because the quote IS "important" and likely notable, possibly even reaching standalone notability! But Wikipedia is not trying to "right the wrongs" of a lack of coverage. We can only report on, and redirect based on the material that is contained here on Wikipedia. Not what we want it to contain. This is regardless if it's "important", but not mentioned yet.) The way to indicate that there is a gap in Wikipedia coverage to be filled, is a redlink. This redirect has zero valuable history. It can ALWAYS be recreated once someone feels it necessary to discuss this potentially notable quote on the biggest online encyclopedia. Which will certainly happen eventually, especially so if the "quote is synonymous with the target itself". But doesn't need to happen now. We are in WP:NORUSH to finish it. And in the meantime, people who search for a quote, and don't end up at material directly related to their search term, will certainly be misled, as Wikipedia is not, does not function as, or advertise as a "type in a quote and get the character who said it without any mention of the search term you used because it's not 'important' enough to be covered at the target page you ended up at" service. The content of the article dictates the redirects that should exist. Not the other way around. Recreate the redirect once a sourced mention is added, somewhere on Wikipedia, because there are none right now... besides one.

Alternatively, retarget to Love and Rocket where the quote is discussed, and HAL 9000 is readily linked. But my guess is that people would probably not want that. Welp. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:29, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Keep. It's referenced in an 2017 Human-Agent Interaction conference paper, "I'm Sorry, Dave, I'm Afraid I Can't Do That: Chatbot Perception and Expectations"; an ACMI (museum) article, "2001: A Space Odyssey – 'I'm sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that' "; and a Sound & Vision magazine article, "I’m Sorry Dave, I’m Afraid I Can’t Do That". ("I'm sorry Dave" was too ambiguous to survive. That is not the case here.) Clarityfiend (talk) 12:42, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
~~Keep~~ – mention unnecessary for the redirect to answer the reader's most probable question ("where is this from?"). Re REDLINK, I think this is unlikely to be able to survive AfD (as evidenced by its lack of significant discussion in mainspace). J 947 ‡ ^edits 00:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
Retarget per FOARP. J 947 ‡ ^edits 00:50, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete unless/until mention is added. If this quote is so important then it should be in the article. Without it this redirect is confusing and unhelpful. A7V2 (talk) 11:52, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep with or without mention, although I think a mention is likely warranted given the prominence of the quote in common and academic discourse (particularly related to computers in general, and AI in particular). Fieari (talk) 23:19, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Retarget to 2001: A Space Odyssey in popular culture#Influence on technology where it actually is mentioned, and probably re-create I'm sorry Dave as a re-direct to the same place. I tend to agree with the keep !voters above about the significance of this phrase and plausibility that it will be searched for, but there is a separate article about the cultural impact of 2001: A Space Odyssey, with a specific section about its impact on technology, where this redirect is a rather well-known catchphrase. FOARP (talk) 21:02, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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Linjian

Linjian → Lin Jian (talk · links · history)

The name, which is that of a town in the Chinese province of Shandong, is being redirected to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic of China spokesperson with same name. Either it should be deleted or be redirected to the target page I have given.Toadboy123 (talk) 03:47, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

NOTE this is a malformed nomination. There is no RfD header on the redirect. The current target of the redirect is Lin Jian, and not that contained in the opening of this section. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:08, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Comment Lin Jian is definitely the wrong target. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:08, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Disambiguate with a see also to Lin Jian (林剑) and Linjiang (disambiguation); there is Linjian (临涧镇) in Pingyi County, Shandong, China; there is Linjian (林尘镇) in Zijin, Guangdong, China, listed at List of township-level divisions of Guangdong; Chen Linjian listed at 2020–21 and 2018–19 Chinese Basketball Association seasons; -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

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Klm Ryl Dtch Airlines

Klm Ryl Dtch Airlines → KLM (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I'm struggling to see the utility of this redirect that marginally abbreviates two of the three words in the full name of the airline. If space is at a premium surely you'd either just use "KLM" or abbreviate "Airlines" as well? This saves only 3 characters. Googling "klm Ryl Dtch Airlines" -Wikipedia brings up exactly one hit on Google, "how to pronounce", which scrapes Wikipedia page titles. It's amassed 77 hits since the current page view tool started keeping track in July 2015, which (if my maths is right) is an average of 0.7 hits per month and since 1 January 2023 it's accumulated only 4 hits. Capitalisation is by far the least important point here, but for any redirect in mixed case I'd expect KLM to be fully capitalised. On the other hand, this is old (created 2012) and unambiguous. Thryduulf (talk) 02:52, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Comment I believe I got it from a document saying that, but sadly I did not make a note on where I got it from. In some newer redirects I am including URLs/documentation so I remember why I am redirecting some terms. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete as an unlikely search term. No-one needs this to find KLM. 20:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)Shhhnotsoloud (talk)

Ain't I a stinker? (remaining bundle)

Ain't I a stinker? → The Abbott and Costello Show (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Ain't I a stinker → Bugs Bunny (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

"Stinker" does not appear at the target article for Bugs Bunny. However, it is mentioned at The Abbott and Costello Show and several other articles including List of Saturday TV Funhouse segments, and WikiQuote at q:Hare Force. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:50, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Comment - I feel that more people know this phrase from Bugs Bunny than from Abbot and Costello. I it a plausible search term, but I'm unsure whether we should drill down and really determine if there's a WP:PTOPIC, or if we should disambiguate. I don't think deletion is a good idea due to the plausibility of someone searching for this very famous phrase. If a PTOPIC is found, hatnoting may be appropriate. Fieari (talk) 02:14, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Well, it would boil down to "where will readers receive the information most pertinent to their search term and have their questions be answered", and that is not the case at Bugs Bunny with zero mention. Yet the phrase "Ain't I a stinker" has like 6 mentions across Wikipedia, all of which might possibly be valid and could draw the target, but the fine details can be ascertained through this RfD. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 02:22, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

This phrase is not relevant on the Abbott and Costello TV series page, because it was never used in the series. A better place might be on the A&C radio show page, or the Abbott and Costello bio page. I do think it is a minor phrase that wasn't readily associated with the team.Plummer (talk)

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It's time to d-d-d-d-duel

It's time to d-d-d-d-duel → Yu-Gi-Oh! (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There is no mention of "d-d" at the target article. Per the RCATs, this is apparently a related meme quotation, yet does not appear anywhere as written within the article. People looking for Yu-Gi-Oh! can reach the subject by typing Yugioh. Hyphenating between all the d's, just to reach an undiscussed meme subject, does not seem particularly useful or helpful here. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:59, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Keep - Demonstrably helpful, give the steady daily usage count on the stats page, just in the past month. Unambiguous target. WP:CHEAP. Don't break people's workflow just for the sake of tidyness. Fieari (talk) 02:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Helpful to whom exactly? Personally, I search for a meme expecting information about a meme. 90% of people familiar with the meme know it's from Yu-Gi-Oh (or seems to be that way from [67], where it is discussed on KnowYourMeme). At the very least, readers expect to read about the thing they searched about. So readers get here thinking "oh so the meme is discussed on this page, great!" One then spends the next 50 thousand bytes searching and searching and nope, zero context, zero benefit. We don't need a redirect for "it's time to d-d-d-d-duel" if all it's going to imply is "this term is synonymous with the entire concept of the Yu-Gi-Oh! general topic article, with no specific section or anchor implied."

Memes are novel. I'm not surprised that people WANT to learn about it here, yet still not useful as a 1-to-1 redirect as it currently leaves people lost on a page without any information for their meme search term, and no mention of "meme" at Yu-Gi-Oh. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 03:17, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Retarget to Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters. This isn't simply a meme-- it's a direct quotation from the original opening sequence for the English dub of this specific anime, with most meme-ification of this quote simply extending the "d-d-d-d-d-d" stuttery part, or otherwise playing around with it and the Yu-Gi-Oh anime's characters in general. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 06:17, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

So, it's a meme then. I'm well aware of the Yu-Gi-Oh sequence in question, and the associated meme and its derivations. It's clearly not a "direct quotation", else this text (hyphens and all) would appear in the episode transcript here: [68]. Regardless, thank you for suggesting a more-related option. But it's still an unmentioned meme. How does this have any bearing on the likelihood of typing a d, followed by a hyphen, followed by a d, followed by a hyphen, followed by a d, followed by a hyphen, followed by a d, followed by a hyphen, followed by a d, followed by "uel"? And all to end up at an article for the series where the meme being sought isn't mentioned, nor any of the meme-spellings? Even in the anime and the video you linked, they stutter like 9 times, so even that aspect isn't accurate within this redirect, and none of It's time to duel, It's time to d-duel, It's time to d-d-duel, It's time to d-d-d-duel, It's time to d-d-d-d-duel (is nommed), It's time to d-d-d-d-d-duel, It's time to d-d-d-d-d-d-duel, It's time to d-d-d-d-d-d-d-duel, It's time to d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-duel, It's time to d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-duel exist, or It's time to dduel, It's time to ddduel, It's time to dddduel, or It's time to ddddduel for that matter. Past precedent has indicated that random hyphens inserted into words is not useful, obfuscates the terms that are actually spoken, and makes searches impractical. And at least for these precedent discussions, they were for quotes which appeared at the target, iirc (in an unmodified/natural state that is, I think). The quote is officially "it's time to duel". Anything beyond that, makes it a meme/meme version. Someone committing to the 5 ds/4 hyphens combination is deliberately typing in a meme into the search engine, so if maintained, the content should reflect that. Neither the real version nor any of the meme variations are covered at the new suggested target either, and Wikipedia is not a collection of memes. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 16:34, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Comment: There's It’s time to du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-duel!, btw. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 19:17, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for finding this hyphens, Hyphenation Expert; imo you have definitely earned the title of "expert in hyphenation" for this one 😌 lol.

For that redirect, the title stutters 8 times, which that number happens to have a bit more basis in reality, compared to this one which stutters 4. (Side note, the edit summary for that redirect is... certainly interesting...). I'm hesitant to bundle these though, as the redirect you found here at least sounds a bit closer to what occurs in the Yu-Gi-Oh sequence, with the ~correct amount of 8 or 9 ds, so slightly more plausible. There may be a case for deletion there (no other du-du-dus exist), but I think the smaller scope and just one redirect here is fine for now. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 19:46, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

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Tiff & Tuff (Chara(c)ters)

Tiff & Tuff (Charaters) → Kirby: Right Back at Ya! (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Tiff & Tuff (Characters) → Kirby: Right Back at Ya! (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

These redirects began their history in 2008 as a page about the characters (see the last version before redirection here) until it was turned into a redirect over three days later for not citing any sources and the characters not being notable enough for their own article. Then, almost three years later, the first (misspelled) redirect was moved to the second (correctly spelled) one's title to make an "orthographic correction." I'm not sure the current target in general is the best one for the page, so I suggest we either delete them (especially the misspelled one) or refine them to the "Characters" section (where the characters are mentioned and explained in some detail). Thoughts? Regards, SONIC 678 06:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete. Tiff and Tuff exists. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Hall Airport

Hall Airport → Kaufman, Texas#Features (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I PROD'd the article about this airport on the basis that it fails WP:GNG and WP:NBUILD due to a lack of coverage in WP:SECONDARY sources excluding WP:ROTM mentions in aviation-related government and navigational databases. Another user made a good-faith effort to preserve the content by merging it with Kaufman, Texas, article, but the user did not realize that the airport has been removed from FAA records because it has presumably closed permanently (which, in 20/20 hindsight, I should have mentioned in the PROD nomination). Thus, the airport article has been replaced with a redirect targeting an article about a town, but the content discussing the airport should presumably be removed from the target article for the same reasons I outline above. I suggest that both the content and the redirect should be deleted. Carguychris (talk) 21:57, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

@Carguychris: As long as the content is there, the redirect is appropriate. If the content is removed from the target article (which is not something RfD can or should compel, but something you can do yourself per WP:BRD), then the correct thing to do is to restore the article and send it to AfD. If you think the content is unsuitable for Wikipedia, then I'd recommend the latter course of action (in which case you can close this as withdrawn). -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 22:55, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
OK, I've axed the airport content from the target article, but restoring the previous Hall Airport article solely to AfD it seems excessive. Carguychris (talk) 15:31, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Comment WP:RECENTISM Wikipedia is not just about what is there right now, history is also a part of Wikipedia. So if there was an airport there, why would it not be appropriate to be part of the town's history? Just as we keep around Tempelhof Airport article after it closed, then we should have history sections for towns, mentioning significant landmarks that no longer exist.-- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:09, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Tempelhof clearly meets WP:GNG and WP:NBUILD. Hall Airport was a privately owned 2,500' grass strip with no significant facilities. Most small private airstrips shouldn't have Wikipedia articles per WP:ROTM, but many of them do because they're listed in convenient online aviation databases. Carguychris (talk) 13:38, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
I agree with the anon here. My preference would be to restore the content to the article and keep the redirect. I agree that this airport isn't notable enough for its own article. I don't agree it isn't worth a mention at the town article. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 18:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep and restore content per Presidentman. Being closed doesn't mean it shouldn't be mentioned at all. A7V2 (talk) 04:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

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2001 attacks

2001 attacks → September 11 attacks (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
2001 terrorist attacks → September 11 attacks (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

These redirects assume that 9/11 is the only terrorist attack that happened in 2001, which is false. I suggest retargeting them to List of terrorist incidents in 2001. As for 2001 attacks, it can probably be downright deleted by RC,IR as it was made less than a year ago. SeaHaircutSoilReplace (talk) 23:35, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Retarget to List of terrorist incidents in 2001 per @SeaHaircutSoilReplace. Hasn't this been RfD'd before? The term is too ambiguous to target an article about any particular incident, even if 9/11 is the most historically significant. Carguychris (talk) 15:38, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
@Carguychris This redirect has not been RfD'd before, which I find ridiculous. SeaHaircutSoilReplace (talk) 15:59, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
No worries, I think it was something similarly worded and vague, like "2001 terror incident". I just recall making an almost identical comment before. Carguychris (talk) 16:57, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
I just found 2001 terrorist attacks via WLH, and added it to this proposal. SeaHaircutSoilReplace (talk) 17:24, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Retarget per above. There were some similar redirects rfed earlier this year but I forget which. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:37, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

@Carguychris and PARKANYAA: you may be thinking of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 9#2001 New York attacks (that nomination was withdrawn), although neither of you commented on in that discussion. I too remember something similar to this and that's the only one I can find. Thryduulf (talk) 22:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
@PARAKANYAA: fixing the ping. Thryduulf (talk) 22:59, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

@Thryduulf That was in fact what I was thinking of. I recall another similar one though... but that doesn't really matter I guess haha. Thanks. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:15, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
@PARAKANYAA after some more searching I've found Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 9#2001 incident that Carguychris did participate in. The outcome was to delete because it was too vague. Thryduulf (talk) 23:29, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
That was the other one! Thanks. I saw that - I rarely vote in RfDs but I lurk a lot. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:31, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Yup, that was it. Carguychris (talk) 15:06, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep. I disagree with the nomination, these redirects do not assume that 9/11 is the only terrorist attack in 2001, rather that 9/11 would be the primary topic for these terms. All this is saying is that someone searching "2001 (terrorist) attacks" would 'highly likely' be looking for 9/11 over all other topics. While 2001 also had events like 2001 anthrax attacks and the shoe bomb, all pale in comparison to 9/11. -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:37, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep 9/11 is the primary topic. C F A 💬 22:50, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Comment @Tavix @CFA Even if it was the primary topic, I don't think anyone would search for "2001 attacks" or "2001 terrorist attacks" if they were looking for 9/11. Most likely they'd just search for, well, 9/11. SeaHaircutSoilReplace (talk) 00:53, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Seems pretty plausible to me, actually. Redirects are cheap. C F A 💬 14:45, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm unclear how the "redirects are cheap" claim applies here at all. The issue is where the redirect targets, not the redirect's existence. Saying this redirect is cheap is akin to not having any type of argument of any stance in this specific discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 21:26, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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Retarget Someone typing "2001 terrorist attacks" is much more likely to be looking for a list of terrorist attacks that happened in 2001, especially if they don't know beforehand what title we gave it. That's just a very natural way to search for it. Also, readers looking for 9/11 will easily find it at that target page, while the opposite is way less obvious. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 02:13, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Keep: I made some searches with [69] and [70] other [71] search engines [72] — the 9/11 terrorist attacks are definitely the PTOPIC for both redirects. I don't see how someone typing "2001 terrorist attacks" is much more likely to be looking for a list of terrorist attacks that happened in 2001, mostly because no evidence is given to support this assertion. Cremastra — talk — c 12:30, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Retarget per nom, simply due to the year which the current target occurred being less notable than its month/day combination. Steel1943 (talk) 13:17, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
To clarify, given the below discussion, I do not believe that the year by itself is sufficient to almost guarantee that readers are looking for the current target. Steel1943 (talk) 18:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep per very clear WP:PTOPIC. Fieari (talk) 23:30, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep Seems like the primary topic to me too. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:12, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
Comment @Fieari @Pppery Just because it's the primary topic doesn't mean people are gonna search for it. As you can see in the viewcounts for the 3 redirects, the latter two get like, nothing, compared to the 9/11 redirect. All the recent pageviews for them in the past couple weeks are people coming to this RfD anyway.

SeaHaircutSoilReplace (talk) 14:00, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Last year, 2001 terrorist attacks got 29 views, which is good enough for me. Even if nobody is using it (and that's not the case), that's not a reason to delete per WP:CHEAP. Cremastra (u — c) 14:32, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

@Cremastra It's not about deleting the redirects, it's about retargeting them to more appropriate targets, as I suggested when I first started this RfD 2 weeks ago. Besides, I only suggested deleting the more recent redirect as a last resort. Aside from that, I never suggested deleting the older redirect created back in 2006, just retargeting it to a more plausible target. SeaHaircutSoilReplace (talk) 16:05, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

@SeaHaircutSoilReplace Then I'm afraid I don't understand your argument. Just because it's the primary topic doesn't mean people are gonna search for it. As you can see in the viewcounts for the 3 redirects, the latter two get like, nothing, compared to the 9/11 redirect. How do low pageviews point to retargeting to List of terrorist incidents in 2001? Cremastra (u — c) 16:14, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

@Cremastra Because barely anyone uses the redirects for going to the 9/11 page (given the pageviews). Because people are more likely to search for 9/11 instead of either of the 2 redirects, it only makes sense that the 2 redirects redirect to the list of 2001 incidents (given the massive ambiguity of "2001 attacks" compared to 9/11, see Chaotic Enby and Steel1943's points), in spite of the points of 9/11 being the most notable of all the other 2001 incidents. PTOPIC isn't exactly clear if people don't search for the 2 redirects and instead search for 9/11. SeaHaircutSoilReplace (talk) 16:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

@SeaHaircutSoilReplace If "barely anyone" uses the redirects for navigating to 9/11, I don't see how the pageviews will increase if we retarget. I still don't entirely follow your train of thought here. People do use these redirects, and since 9/11 is the PTOPIC here, I simply don't see how retargetting to a more general target is the most helpful option for readers here. Like CFA and Tavix said, it's the primary topic and redirects are cheap. You say it only makes sense that the 2 redirects redirect to the list of 2001 incidents, but I'm still struggling to understand why it makes sense. You seem to be assuming that readers don't use these redirects because (in your view) they point to the wrong place, and that by retargetting to a more general target, pageviews will increase. Readers aren't looking at RfD. They aren't going to spread the word that the redirect got retargetted. Cremastra (u — c) 16:37, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

I still don't think 9/11 will be the primary topic, and I never will for that matter. As said earlier, "2001 attacks" is far too vague for anything, including 9/11, to qualify for its primary topic. I'm not going to deal with this any longer. By the way, WP:ICANTHEARYOU seems to apply here. SeaHaircutSoilReplace (talk) 23:09, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Someone disagreeing with you does not mean that they are editing disruptively. C F A 💬 23:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

All right, sure. But I don't think accusing me of sticking to a viewpoint long after community consensus has decided that moving on would be more productive is, in fact, very productive here. But I digress. The searches do show it's the primary topic for me, but PTOPIC is something reasonable people can disagree on; it's often hard to find. I still don't understand what pageviews have to do with anything, but I'm happy to WP:DROPTHESTICK and leave the horse be. This discussion is probably due for a close anyway. Cremastra (u — c) 19:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

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Battle of City 17

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 23 § Tentacle (Half-Life) – Trainwreck
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 October 14 § Manhack – Trainwreck

Battle of City 17 → Half-Life 2 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The Battle of City 17 → Half-Life 2 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Battle for City 17 → Half-Life 2 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Possible WP:Fancruft though technically not wrong TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 18:26, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Anyone mind bundling The Battle of City 17 and Battle for City 17? TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 18:29, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Comment - each of these separately was at one point an article, but not a single source between them. A7V2 (talk) 11:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete All - Our page on Half Life 2 (which I've never played, though I did play HL1 - when's HL3 coming?) doesn't mention any battle at City 17 so these are unhelpful redirects. FOARP (talk) 20:54, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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Obstipation

Obstipation → Constipation (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Term not mentioned nor defined at target. Even though it is similar to "Constipation", it appears to be an entirely different and more severe condition. CycloneYoris ^talk! 09:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

from some quick looking, i haven't found a good enough target for that aside from maybe bowel obstruction (where it's also unmentioned). would soft redirecting to wikt:obstipation work for now? cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 13:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Quick note that this term "obstipation" is very, very rare compared to acute bowel obstruction (which seems to be the "modern" equivalent term, but that is my impression only and not a reliable source).

The dictionary definitions gave along the lines of "severe + acute constipation", and it even sounds like a medical emergency. Therefore on the basis of those dictionary definitions I changed the link from obstructed defecation which was imo inappropriate (the latter is a chronic condition, not a medical emergency) and also unsourced. Moribundum (talk) 18:10, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:VB

Wikipedia:VB → Template:Venice Biennale (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

A shortcut redirect from Wikipedia namespace to a navigational template doesn't make much sense. This should probably be retargeted to Wikipedia:WikiProject Volleyball. ✗plicit 14:49, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Retarget as suggested or delete, agree this XNR doesn't make sense. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:49, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Retarget to the wikiproject, or delete as a 2nd option. Either way, it should not be a WP:XNR. Fieari (talk) 23:23, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete. Wikipedia:WikiProject Volleyball hasn't noticed it doesn't redirect them, and therefore they don't need it to. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:26, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete per Shhhhnotsoloud. Ambiguous towards a random template. If WP Volleyball wants it, they can create it. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 15:35, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

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Note Template:Vb, if TM:VB is suggested as a replacement to this shortcut. J 947 ‡ ^edits 05:29, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

These should be discussed separately, as Template:Vb has quite a bit of transclusions. ✗plicit 13:50, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I oppose deletion. A shortcut being unused is not a valid reason for deletion. ✗plicit 13:50, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete because the WikiProject didn't seem to care about this shortcut before, so not sure why they would now. Might as well free the title for someone who wants to use it for a more visible and constructive purpose. (However, if that purpose ends up being someone from the WikiProject creating this redirect to target the WikiProject, the redirect should be immune to WP:G4.) Steel1943 (talk) 18:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Retarget to Wikipedia:WikiProject Volleyball as the only sensible target. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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Sonam Maskar

Sonam Maskar → Shooting sports in India (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at the target. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:55, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete and recreate as an article - Looking online it looks like this could be the subject of an article since there appears to be SigCov of Maskar (e.g., 1, 2, 3), but someone decided to create this redirect in the place where someone else might have put that article. FOARP (talk) 13:31, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete as per WP:RETURNTORED. There's no existing history on this redirect that we could restore to article status; therefore, if we want an article here, the best route (short of someone stepping up to write the article) is to delete the redirect. This is RfD, not WP:AfC; actually creating brand-new articles is outside the scope of this discussion page. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 05:48, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete to encourage article creation. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:17, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Uncle Cosmo

Uncle Cosmo → Columbo (character) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

still not the biggest columbohead out there, but from a couple days of looking around, i haven't found any relation between this name and columbo (or columbo). is this something from later episodes that just hasn't been mentioned anywhere yet, or...? cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 17:46, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Keep. Uncle Cosmo was a nickname sometimes used, as is correctly indicated by the "R from nickname" template used in the redirect. Please do your homework prior to making nominations, because this is easily destroying carefully created infrastructure and costs time which could be better spend on improving or adding contents. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 17:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep. This could've been caught by simply plugging in "Uncle Cosmo" Columbo into Google. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 18:34, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
i did that before, and got one result saying it used by his nephew in one episode (episode 60, to be specific), and never again by anyone else, and that result was in page 2 of 2, in a suspiciously old-wikipedia-mirror-shaped site, unsourced, mentioned in passing, and buried among unrelated uncles named cosmo seemingly related to people seemingly known as "colombo". looking again, it's the same case, but now there are also reports of some "rfd" thing started by someone named "cogsan". no idea who that is, but he sounds like he'd be a total wonk

i would withdraw based on this, but the fact that there are no sources, reliable or otherwise (google told me there was something around quora, but i didn't find it there) that even imply anything about this (nick)name's existence aside from up to this diff which another site seems to have yoinked by accident, while "frank" and "philip" have a citation each (yes, i know the latter is false), leads me to question if it's worth keeping, as the only mention i found outside of fancruft in the target's edit history was still circular

if you two found something i didn't, i would appreciate it cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 20:04, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Hm. Checking myself, you're right-- I'd initially seen the first result being Quora and went, "Okay, this is a known answer.' In reality, it... was not. Whops. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 06:49, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
clearly, his first name is "lieutenant" cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 16:44, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

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Retarget ~~to Ronnie Nyakale~~ I don't think a Quora answer is sufficient to provide evidence for this nickname, especially when it is unmentioned in the target. I couldn't find any other sources either. OTOH, "Uncle Cosmo" is listed as an alternative name for Nyakale in his infobox. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 13:37, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
It's mentioned, but it's unsourced. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 04:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
After doing some digging, it looks like it is the name of his character in the TV show Generations: The Legacy. I've added a sourced mention there, so I now propose targeting that page. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:30, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:IBP

Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: Withdrawn

Back to Gecko

Back to Gecko → Mozilla (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

"Back to" not mentioned at target page or at Gecko (software). Schützenpanzer (Talk) 01:50, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete. From Googling it seems this was the very first working name of what became Firefox OS, but as it's not mentioned there (or indeed anywhere) this isn't useful a redirect at present. If it is added to the article (I have no opinion about whether it should be) this can be recreated at that time. Thryduulf (talk) 12:26, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Delete per nom. Cremastra (u — c) 13:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Picric acid (homeopathic remedy)

Picric acid (homeopathic remedy) → List of homeopathic preparations (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete the existence of the redirect suggests that picric acid, or something called picric acid, is a homeopathic preparation, and no evidence for that is adduced at the target page. Trovatore (talk) 02:12, 26 October 2024 (UTC) (Further comment: This page was originally an article, but that was back in 2008 — I don't think we need to take it to AfD now, do we?) --Trovatore (talk) 02:14, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

~~Retarget it and all other homeopathy-related redirects to placebo~~Keep, readd reference, find and add new source. It seems this very incomplete-looking list used to be a lot longer in the past; around 2019, it went from around 14k bytes to around 3k bytes, with two edits in particular excising the most amount of data, with the reason given being unreliable sources and/or sources that got removed from the Internet. From these older pieces we do find a very helpful search term-- that the name of a homeopathic preparation based on picric acid would be "Picricum acidum", which can be found in other sources-- and can also be found for sale. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 02:29, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

That's actually a pretty good point.... --Trovatore (talk) 21:17, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete. If there is reliable and notable info on picric acid as a homeopathic remedy (an explosive less stable than the related TNT, I have to add), then it can be added to Picric acid#Uses and this redirect can be retargeted there or recreated to target that. Also, while searching through sources I found this "herbal" cigarette which supposedly includes picric acid at a concentration of 13% by weight. You smoke this... you get a lighter flick it on and light the explosive on fire. Is this even real? People are wild. ― Synpath 15:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
... but this is a better point, I think. A brief mention here, far down in the article, is less intrusive than the silly-looking hatnote at the top of picric acid, which is what drew my attention to this redirect in the first place. That doesn't exclude covering it at list of homeopathic preparations with a good source. --Trovatore (talk) 21:17, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete. Enwiki does not mention Picric acid in the context of homeopathy. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

MOS:ASTRO

MOS:ASTRO → Wikipedia:WikiProject Astronomy/Manual of Style (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete: Incorrect and confusing redirect that declares this WP:PROJPAGE essay to be a part of the WP:MOS guidelines. (The page's misnaming with "/Manual of Style" instead of "/Style advice" is being addressed separately in an RM.) Deleting this shortcut will be consistent with prior deletions of "MOS:" namespace (formerly pseudo-namespace) shortcuts to wikiproject essays and the like. The potential for mischief with such shortcuts is high, because editors who encounter them "cited" in talk-page arguments are highly likely to trust that they are MoS guidelines with the authority of community consensus acceptance, instead of being pre-WP:PROPOSAL essays of recent coinage by a trivial number of editors with nearly no community input. The advice in the page might even be good, but it is not (yet?) part of MoS and should not masquerade as one. I've created a new WP:ASTROSTYLE shortcut for this page (and it seems to be the only one aside from MOS:ASTRO. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom. This is cross-namespace then too. ― Synpath 15:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete: I created this redirect while misunderstanding the process. The target will be retained as part of WP:AST. Praemonitus (talk) 20:39, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Chaotolerance

Chaotolerance → Chaotropic agent (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention of "tolerance" or "chaotolerance" at the target article. Seemingly a portmanteau of "chaos tolerance", but without an explanation at the target page, people using this search term would be confused as to what it means or how it relates to the subject, with no description or definition to warrant the redirect. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Keep or soft redirect to wiktionary. The definition is essentially "tolerance to chaotropic agents/conditions," and this page is the most relevant on-wiki result for a search of Chaotolerance. I don't think a user that has need to understand this term (it's very, very niche with something like 80-90 hits on Google Scholar) will be particularly surprised by landing at Chaotropic agent – the key concept in the definition of the word. ― Synpath 14:48, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
I would support a soft redirect to wiktionary in this case, as the only mentions of "chaotolerance" on all of Wikipedia are on the pages for Wallemiomycetes and Wallemia sebi. It would be better if Chaotropic agent spoke about "what makes something chaotolerant" or "what even is chaotolerance", but it does not. However, the wiktionary entry would indeed answer this dictionary-esque question. If that result occurs, I'd also similarly create Chaotolerant in suit, pointing towards Wikt:chaotolerant. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 20:58, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

ChinaFile

ChinaFile → Asia Society (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention of "file" at the target article. Was created with the edit summary "website of", but this is not accounted for at the target. The website that IS given, for Asia Society, is asiasociety.org. Without any context this redirect is unhelpful, and misleading as people who search this term are not given the context as to why they ended up here. Maybe a reader was looking for a file about China? No answers, currently. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:08, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

ChinaFile is an online magazine published by the Asia Society. (See https://asiasociety.org/center-us-china-relations/chinafile) W9793 (talk) 03:29, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

The magazine is mentioned in the lead now, but it would probably help to provide further context later on in the article too, maybe under Functions. Recon rabbit 22:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Chir'daki

Chir'daki → List of Star Wars starfighters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention of "chir" or "daki" at the target article. The page has history. Still is an unhelpful and misleading redirect to a page where the subject is not discussed. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:06, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Murder of Paige Chivers

Murder of Paige Chivers → Disappearance of Charlene Downes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention of "Paige" or "Chivers" at the target article. The creator has been blocked for sockpuppetry. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Retarget to List of murder convictions without a body. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Chlaenius atratulus and Chlaenius azureulus

Chlaenius atratulus → List of Chlaenius species#Chlaenius species (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Chlaenius azureulus → List of Chlaenius species#Chlaenius species (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Azureulus and atratulus not mentioned at the list of chlaenius species, where they should be red links anyway if they exist, in the absence of dedicated article content. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete. There are no incoming links. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Cozy horror

Cozy horror → Horror fiction (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Misleading – not mentioned at target. Cremastra (u — c) 00:56, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom; no mention of "cozy" at the target, which seems to be a qualifying description that is not discussed. Nothing really at List of genres#Horror either. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Chlaenius anchomenoides and some

Chlaenius anchomenoides → Chlaenius (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Chlaenius aterrimus → Chlaenius (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Chlaenius bimaculatus → Chlaenius (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Chlaenius birmanicus → Chlaenius (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Chlaenius buriensis → Chlaenius (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Chlaenius callichloris → Chlaenius (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

We do not have a dedicated article for these species. People who type in chlaenius callichloris (and others), already know the genus is chlaenius. Not useful as a redirect to the species list, because we have zero dedicated content. Delete per WP:REDYES. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:55, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Redirects like this are misleading. Cremastra (u — c) 01:28, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete - these should be redlinks, as is standard practice for as-yet nonexistant species articles. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 13:40, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete. I think this is the tip of the iceberg at List of Chlaenius species. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:29, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

1HQ3Go3ggs8pFnXuHVHRytPCq5fGG8Hbhx

1HQ3Go3ggs8pFnXuHVHRytPCq5fGG8Hbhx → Silk Road (marketplace)#Later seizures (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This is an R from merge. The history of this wallet ID is useful to preserve, but as a search term and as a helpful redirect it is neither of these things, especially so as the wallet ID is not mentioned at the subject, so there is zero indication what this string of 34 characters could possibly mean in relationship to the subject. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Miscellany for deletion

See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion, as MfD uses subpages for the nominations like AfD but places them within the process's main page.

Speedy deletion

See Category:Candidates for speedy deletion.

Proposed deletion

See Category:Proposed deletion as of 26 October 2024.

Copyright problems

26 October 2024

Hi, I was just doing some cleanup at mukimono and removed a sentence almost directly copied from the website sourced. Did I handle this okay? Reporting this to be revdeleted either way. diff of what I edited here. thanks, Sarsenet (talk) 09:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)