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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was kept by PresN via FACBot (talk) 23:33, 7 October 2016 (UTC) [1].

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List of Dad's Army episodes

Notified: RHB, Dad's Army task force, WikiProject Television

This is a nine year-old FL and is it showing its age badly. It's had templates on top of the page for a couple of months and, in order to replace some dead links, a book source has been used that gives no pages as references. - SchroCat (talk) 07:15, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

There are indeed pages given for the book reference, but not in the reference itself but next to each footnote. It uses the Template:Rp to render [2]:231, which refers to page 231 of the McCann book. These references were converted into this format by an anon (who also tagged the article) in May 2016. If this reference format isn't appropriate, I could go through and convert the references into a different format, taking on faith (maybe just for now, at least) that they're the correct pages. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 12:47, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Seeing as the page for the Rp template says it is "usually used when other methods produce undesirable results" I went ahead and converted the references. There's no reason to not use the clearer sfn. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 13:10, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

I've generally done what I can. I did a quick and light copy-edit, I verified the book references and moved them to cite the airdates and recording dates (though, the recording dates for the sketches are still unreferenced), and I referenced everything else where I could. In the end, I removed the original research and the refimprove tags, but I think it still needs a copy-edit. I have not seen any of these episodes, so rewriting the episode overviews was difficult and the individual articles I found confused. Personally, I recommend the overviews be cut down to a single sentence, but I'm not familiar enough with the series to make a best guess for what that sentence would be for many of them. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 18:38, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

@TenTonParasol: Actually, episode summaries should be 100–200 words per WP:TVPLOT. It really should be converted to use {{Episode table}} and {{Episode list}} though. nyuszika7h (talk) 21:15, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Hrm. I wasn't sure about the point about the summaries considering I was looking at List of Doctor Who serials and List of 24 episodes and those don't have summaries at all. But then again, they have series/season articles and Dad's Army doesn't. At any rate. I'm not qualified to write them properly, and when I spot checked a lot of the summaries against the articles and against the book source, they didn't seem that accurate? And I can't make heads or tails out of the individual articles. I wasn't sure if the episode list template was going to be unacceptable and I was going to leave it until someone wished it to be converted. But, I can't convert now. I'm away from home until Monday and I can't do it from mobile. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 22:24, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @TenTonParasol: Episode list articles where the season articles have been split don't show the summaries, you have to click through to the season articles. As for the converison, I'll do it later. nyuszika7h (talk) 22:26, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

I was about to mention I'll get to the conversion on Tuesday when I get back bt the edit conflict you'll do it. I could attempt to do summaries from the book source. Rephrase them and paraphrase. If nobody else gets around to it? Feel free to revert my attempts to shorten the summaries. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 22:33, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

I converted the table to use {{Episode table}} and {{Episode list}}, except for the Christmas sketches in the last section, which I quickly worked into the prose seeing as they aren't part of the overall episode count. I'll get onto attempting the summaries again with aid of the source books tomorrow maybe. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 20:45, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

No consensus to delist. --PresN 22:19, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was kept by PresN via FACBot (talk) 23:32, 7 October 2016 (UTC) [2].

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List of Bangladesh Premier League captains

Notified: Pratyya Ghosh, WT:CRIC

I am nominating this for featured list removal because it is out of date and no attempt has been made to include the 2015 season which took place eight months ago. It cannot be a featured list if it is not being kept up to date. That is a problem with lists about an ongoing event. Regards, Naz | talk | contribs 06:44, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

• Comment It'd be a shame if this gets demoted. What needs to be done is updating the list. Doesn't have to be demoted right away. Pinging Pratyya Ghosh — Mediran [talk] 05:50, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
• Comment Thanks Mediran for your comment. I actually updated that yesterday and had a very small work left to do and I've done it. I think rather than spending your time to nominate this FL for delisting it would've been better if you spent that time to update it, Nazcheema
  You have written that I am nominating this for featured list removal because it is out of date and no attempt has been made to include the 2015 season which took place eight months ago. You could've taken that attempt.
  Anyways no need to make this discussion any longer. Since I've already updated it, I think a reviewer should review and close this discussion. --Pratyya ^(Hello!) 13:17, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
• Disagree , the list is now up to date. so as the reason of this nomination is now invalid. so keep the featured status. Ibrahim Husain Meraj (talk) 15:31, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
• Comment @Pratyya Ghosh: Although you may have a point, please remember that editors are under no obligation to edit or improve specific articles. One of the requirements to maintain a list's status as featured is that is reasonably up-to-date. Articles are listed here for two reasons: they are in such a bad shape (and no one is interested in improving them) that they need to be removed to maintain WP:FL's high standards or as a way to encourage improvement of existing featured lists to bring them back up to an acceptable level. Just so you know, most WP:FLRC discussions stay open for at least 14 days to give editors adequate time to review and comment on the article and nomination. Cheers! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:51, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

• Comment The list may have been updated but the prose in the lead has now been changed. Lead paragraphs should normally only have four and it currently has seven. Lead requires a copyedit before it can leave FLRC. Cowlibob (talk) 22:53, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

• Issues @Pratyya Ghosh:
  • with the exception of Season 3. Between the Second Season of BPL (2013) and Third Season of BPL (2015) - This part of the lead contradicts itself.
  • The footnotes in the body use Greek letters while the footnotes section has digits. Really?
  • These statistics are correct as of the 2015 season. - Interestingly enough the only reference retrieved after 2015 doesn't have any stats. What source are you using?
  • Why is the nationality info from ESPN and not from the ICC?
  • The list includes those players... - I think this paragraph can be placed under the captains section above the table.
  • The Bangladesh Cricket Board link in the references and external links sections is dead.

--Cheetah (talk) 06:43, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

@Crzycheetah: Have made some fixes based on these suggestions on behalf of the FL creator. I thought that Cricinfo is reliable for nationalities of cricket players. Does the ICC have its online database of player statistics which includes this information? Cowlibob (talk) 13:27, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

• Keep Thanks, Cowlibob! As for nationalities, I believe the official website should be the most reliable. You always have to go with the nationality which is accepted by ICC, so this page has to be checked.--Cheetah (talk) 01:42, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

No consensus to delist. --PresN 22:19, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

• Closing note: This candidate has been kept, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.